BYU basketbal player kicked off team for pre-marital sex.:

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1 Fish13rd Mar 2011 12:09:21 PM from Lovecraft Country
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Indeed.
2 Usht3rd Mar 2011 12:11:45 PM from an arbitrary view point.
Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard
Was it in the contract?
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3 Pykrete3rd Mar 2011 12:13:27 PM from Viridian Forest
NOT THE BEES
Well, BYU is a Mormon university. Their house, their rules, and their honor code for admission is pretty explicit about no extramarital sex.

edited 3rd Mar '11 12:13:54 PM by Pykrete

4 Usht3rd Mar 2011 12:15:21 PM from an arbitrary view point.
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Then he broke the rules that he agreed to and got kicked because of it. I don't see a problem here.

edited 3rd Mar '11 12:15:48 PM by Usht

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5 Fish13rd Mar 2011 12:16:20 PM from Lovecraft Country
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I can't say I have much sympathy for him. If he wanted to have sex, he shouldn't have gone to BYU.
Indeed.
6 Cojuanco3rd Mar 2011 12:21:23 PM from Irvine, CA, US
Student
[up]Exactly. It's not like he couldn't have gone to another university...
94. Grandmaster of Shark
Their house, their rules[...]

There isn't much I can add to that and I am rather sure he knew about this beforehand.
8 Fish13rd Mar 2011 12:27:09 PM from Lovecraft Country
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Another interesting thing here is the backdrop. This is BYU's best year ever, as far as basketball goes. They are currently ranked 3rd in the country, and they are(or were) in line for a No.1 seed in the NCAA tournament. Any other year, this wouldn't be news at all.

edited 3rd Mar '11 12:30:16 PM by Fish1

Indeed.
9 Deboss3rd Mar 2011 12:27:17 PM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
I think all professional athletes should have a celibacy clause in their contracts. Purely for lulz.
RIP Monty
Well if he agreed to it, sucks to be him. Now he'll have to go to another school which will pay his education, my heart bleeds.
11 Fish13rd Mar 2011 12:49:20 PM from Lovecraft Country
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[up] He's suspended from the basketball team. Not expelled.
Indeed.
12 BlueNinja03rd Mar 2011 01:15:44 PM from My Favorite Spot on the Citadel , Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Sailing thebig blue sea
[up] And yet, I bet he's being actively courted by other colleges with good basketball teams who don't have no-sex clauses in their admission contract.
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It's a stupid clause to have in the first place.
14 Usht3rd Mar 2011 01:22:29 PM from an arbitrary view point.
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Not important EI. It's a matter of the fact that it was there, not whether or not it's stupid (which would be an entirely different topic anyway).
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15 KCK3rd Mar 2011 01:33:03 PM from In your closet
Can I KCK it?
And I should care about this because...?

@English Ivy Yeah, you think celibacy is evil, we know.
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16 Cojuanco3rd Mar 2011 04:27:13 PM from Irvine, CA, US
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[up][up][up]It's a matter of principle. I don't happen to agree with it (these things are best discussed in a confessional or appropiate equivalent IMO), but you have to admire them on some level for at least making some attempt to practice what they preach.
Oh My
While I may not particularly agree with the idea of having a "No sex before marriage if you want to be on the team" rule (I'd rather have a "No sex period as we don't need you pregging up people and being caught up in that noise" rule but eh...) this dude should have known. He probably did know in fact. So sadly...their house, their rules. Deal with it.
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18 Linhasxoc3rd Mar 2011 05:07:12 PM , Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
I pretty much don't have anything to add that hasn't been said. Stupid rule, but he agreed to it, etc.
19 shimaspawn3rd Mar 2011 05:23:56 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
He agreed to it. He chose to go to a school with this sort of contract. He signed up for it. All his fault. I don't think the school did anything wrong.

I mean, if you say here are the rules, take them or leave them, and they take them, not following them is their own issue.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
It's easy, mmkay?
Interesting thought-if a contract preventing one from having sex is allowed, then why is a contract forcing one to have sex not allowed?
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21 shimaspawn3rd Mar 2011 05:45:20 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
Because it violates rape and sexual harassment laws.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
RIP Monty
Because trading sex for stuff is wrong apparently. Never saw a reason personally but good luck getting the whole country to change their opinion on something.
It's easy, mmkay?
But this is my point:If trading the positive is wrong, how is trading the negative any less wrong?
At first I didn't realize I needed all this stuff...
24 shimaspawn3rd Mar 2011 05:54:24 PM from Here and Now , Relationship Status: In your bunk
For the same reason that promising not to do illegal drugs is ok, but you can't force people to do illegal drugs.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
It's easy, mmkay?
But illegal drugs are themselves illegal, while premarital sex... isn't.
At first I didn't realize I needed all this stuff...

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