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Ironeye Cutmaster-san from SoCal Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#1: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:37:36 PM

First off, I just want to say that this is not an abortion thread. If you would like to discuss abortion in general, we have threads for that.

Anyway, I just watched two videos that portray abortion in a fairly extreme way. What does everyone else think about these portrayals, and how effective do you think the videos will be at changing people's minds?

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LoveHappiness Nihilist Hippie Since: Dec, 2010
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#2: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:40:48 PM

Are these joke videos? [lol]

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pvtnum11 OMG NO NOSECONES from Kerbin low orbit Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#3: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:42:55 PM

It's an appeal to emotion. Even with the sound off, the second one got to me.

Can't say how effective they'll be, though.

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EnglishIvy Since: Aug, 2011
#4: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:42:55 PM

The people who made those videos are a bunch of sick fucks.

MRDA1981 Tyrannicidal Maniac from Hell (London), UK. Since: Feb, 2011
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#5: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:43:17 PM

A Christian friend linked me to some of these EXTREME!!!!!!111 anti-abortion vids, probably expecting me to be shocked and appalled; her attempt (if I guess her motivation correctly) proved unsuccessful.

EDIT: *watches Ironeye's links; laughter ensues*

Talk about Dead Baby Comedy!

edited 2nd Mar '11 5:47:35 PM by MRDA1981

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pvtnum11 OMG NO NOSECONES from Kerbin low orbit Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#6: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:45:37 PM

I have seen some anti-abortion images backfire with people, yes.

I think they're trying to cash in on the fact that we're visual creatures - but I think if they managed to convey the smell via the internet, they'd really hit paydirt.

Not to mention, the aftermarket keyboard sector would have more business, as vomit isn't good for keyboards.

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Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#7: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:48:33 PM

Both those attempts have failed to sway me in any form. Both just made me laugh. This is me though...

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Signed Always Right Since: Dec, 2009
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#8: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:49:05 PM

...the first one looks more like it's pro-choice than pro-life.

"Have an abortion when you can! You don't want to be forced to shotgun your live baby, an actual crime, do you?!"

edited 2nd Mar '11 5:49:43 PM by Signed

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EnglishIvy Since: Aug, 2011
#9: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:49:43 PM

People with tape over their mouths ought to be forbidden from posting videos to Youtube.

MRDA1981 Tyrannicidal Maniac from Hell (London), UK. Since: Feb, 2011
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#10: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:50:05 PM

The vids my friend linked actually showed foeti getting cut up; the Ironeye links are considerably more restrained.

Enjoy the Inferno...
Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#11: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:50:35 PM

The second one confuses me. As a very moderate Pro-Lifer, I think we should keep tax dollars flowing towards Planned Parenthood, so we can educate more people and prevent unwanted pregnancies. That, in turn, would lower abortion rates, because less people will need them, but they're still there if necessary. That's why I would prefer.

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Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#12: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:51:07 PM

I've seen vids like that too. Still haven't swayed me.

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EnglishIvy Since: Aug, 2011
#13: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:52:15 PM

These videos make me want to scream. Silently.

MRDA1981 Tyrannicidal Maniac from Hell (London), UK. Since: Feb, 2011
Usht Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard from an arbitrary view point. Since: Feb, 2011
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#15: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:53:26 PM

I'll pass on clicking those video until tomorrow. I'd like to be able to sleep tonight. Regardless, go extremists who don't represent your side correctly! Or the other side. Or even the entire point being argued.

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Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#16: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:53:46 PM

I didn't actually watch them all the way through because I didn't want the condensed stupid to smash my brain into a pulp.

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Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#17: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:54:49 PM

Both videos are relatively tame and things I wouldn't consider being too far in the "OMG CAN'T SLEEP" direction. If at all in that direction.

Then again this is me and I think they are hilarious so...

edited 2nd Mar '11 5:55:09 PM by Aondeug

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zoulza WHARRGARBL Since: Dec, 2010
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#18: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:55:57 PM

As someone who is for abortion, I can tell you that these videos did not cause any amazing revelation in me on what a horrible person I am for supporting such a barbaric practice: rather, they just made me facepalm. Very badly.

Honestly, I don't think the point of these videos is to get pro-choice people to see the error in their ways, but to rally pro-life people. Obviously, no one, pro-life or pro-choice is for the murder of babies or blending of bunnies, but whether or not you agree that either of these things is a valid comparison to abortion depends on whether you are pro-life or pro-choice to begin with! In short, these things are only Preaching to the Choir; nothing more.

Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#19: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:56:15 PM

Christians are a wonderful source of Narm, Aon.

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Usht Lv. 3 Genasi Wizard from an arbitrary view point. Since: Feb, 2011
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#20: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:58:48 PM

I take offense to that one Chagen. Most of us aren't forcing our will upon others (cause you know, that's kind of against what the Bible said as well as going against being, you know, a good person).

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zoulza WHARRGARBL Since: Dec, 2010
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#21: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:59:40 PM

[up][up] I would like to add that the scene in the first one with the baby's laughter followed by the shotgun blast did make me chuckle a bit.

edited 2nd Mar '11 5:59:52 PM by zoulza

Aondeug Oh My from Our Dreams Since: Jun, 2009
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#22: Mar 2nd 2011 at 5:59:49 PM

That doesn't change the fact that Christians are a good source for narm, Usht. All groups are really.

If someone wants to accuse us of eating coconut shells, then that's their business. We know what we're doing. - Achaan Chah
Grain Only One Avatar from South Northwest Earth Since: Oct, 2009
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#23: Mar 2nd 2011 at 6:02:58 PM

Those videos were very weak. I incorrectly predicted that they would show graphic images of abortion.

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Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#24: Mar 2nd 2011 at 6:08:25 PM

Usht: I'm actually an Agnostic Christian Deist myself. But you can't deny that fundies are hilariously stupid.

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Karalora Manliest Person on Skype from San Fernando Valley, CA Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#25: Mar 2nd 2011 at 6:12:48 PM

They have to resort to stupid metaphors because the vast majority of actual abortions are indistinguishable on film from ordinary gynecological exams.

Stuff what I do.

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