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Etheru Since: Jul, 2009
#39576: Apr 25th 2018 at 7:39:51 PM

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#39577: Apr 25th 2018 at 7:47:37 PM

I love the idea of some local strategy guide company getting their Sonic & Knuckles and Sonic CD notes getting mixed up like that.

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Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
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#39578: Apr 25th 2018 at 8:20:06 PM

Japan's definition of tomboy is kind of weird tbh. Reminder that Misty from Pokemon was considered a tomboy.

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#39579: Apr 25th 2018 at 8:33:29 PM

Japan's definition of tomboy is pretty much Tomboy Witha Girly Streak.

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#39580: Apr 25th 2018 at 8:37:47 PM

So...she was like that in the manga?

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#39581: Apr 26th 2018 at 3:22:23 PM

I mean the whole concept of a tomboy is kind of dying nowadays due to lax gender roles. Back in the day, especially in Japan, a girl who liked sports, who didn't back down from a fight, was loud and aggressive or anything stereotypically "masculine" would be considered tomboyish.

In that respect, Amy with her spunky attitude and aggressive pursuit of Sonic could be labeled "tomboyish," even with her otherwise girly traits. This was before her being flanderized as a fangirl too, although they are thankfully reining that in with her recent portrayals.

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#39582: Apr 26th 2018 at 3:24:35 PM

Recent...

2008 wasn't that long ago it seems.

Everyone was flanderized around 2004, is fine...

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Maljen Since: Jan, 2015
#39583: Apr 27th 2018 at 10:26:07 AM

So on twitter Maekawa revealed new information on Sonic Heroes' development.

https://twitter.com/nothisiswindii/status/989474656414584833

https://twitter.com/jadii/status/989676382778286081

He says that they considered having 6 teams (Sonic/Tails/Knuckles, Amy/Cream/Rouge, Chaos/E-102/Big, Espio/Charmy/Vector, Fang/Bean/Bark, Metal Sonic/Ray/Mighty) but cut back on them and that there talk about whether Shadow was dead or not. He also wondered what teams a Heroes 2 would have before speculating that the Babylon Rogues and Blaze/Silver/Sticks would join.

Some of the team choices in idea and positions are range from unsurprising (Rouge being a Power character) to odd (Chaos being a Speed character).

edited 27th Apr '18 10:28:35 AM by Maljen

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#39584: Apr 27th 2018 at 10:47:05 AM

What's odd to me is the assortments. Those are some terrible choices. I would have gone:

  • Sonic/Tails/& Knuckles
  • Amy/Cream/Big
  • Metal Sonic/E-102/Chaos
  • Mighty/Rogue/Bark

This is clearly the best order!

edited 27th Apr '18 11:30:01 AM by Soble

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#39585: Apr 27th 2018 at 10:54:16 AM

Shadow died.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#39586: Apr 27th 2018 at 11:25:39 AM

I wonder if the gameplay would've been any different.

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#39587: Apr 27th 2018 at 11:38:31 AM

Maybe...if the PS 2 version wasn't a thing.

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Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
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#39588: Apr 27th 2018 at 1:19:06 PM

So they almost brought back fang/bean/bark AND mighty/ray, but didn't and thus they were put away in canon limbo for like a decade.

BorneAgain Trope on a Rope from Last House on the Right Since: Nov, 2009
Trope on a Rope
#39589: Apr 27th 2018 at 2:11:25 PM

[up] Its funny because that move has helped create a further delineation between the classic and modern eras when it comes to characters.

Thanks to stuff like that and Sonic Mania it feels as if there's a bit of a dividing line between the old (Hooligans, Ray, Mighty) and the new (Shadow, Rouge, Cream, Big, Omega, Silver)

Ironic considering it was Heroes reintroducing both the Chaotix and Metal Sonic after their absence for seven years that put them into the category of fitting in both eras like Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Robotnik and Amy do.

edited 27th Apr '18 2:17:47 PM by BorneAgain

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Snow Ghost
#39590: Apr 27th 2018 at 3:37:21 PM

Seven years...

Sonic R came out in 1997...

Metal Sonic was in Adventure and Adventure 2.

edited 27th Apr '18 3:38:01 PM by randomness4

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BorneAgain Trope on a Rope from Last House on the Right Since: Nov, 2009
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#39591: Apr 27th 2018 at 3:42:55 PM

I meant more in terms of Metal Sonic being in a prominent story role beyond cameos or playable in multiplayer sections.

The last game related thing for any of the Chaotix prior to Heroes of course was Espio in Sonic the Fighters circa 96.

edited 27th Apr '18 3:44:00 PM by BorneAgain

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#39592: Apr 27th 2018 at 4:39:55 PM

Chaos as a Speed character baffles me. Remember how slow he was in Sonic Adventure 2 Battle? And lets not forget Sonic Battle.

edited 27th Apr '18 4:40:24 PM by GreatT

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erazor0707 The Unknown Unknown from The Infinitude of Meh Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#39593: Apr 27th 2018 at 5:17:24 PM

Yeah, I don't get it either. Chaos is a Power character.

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#39594: Apr 27th 2018 at 6:31:16 PM

[up]I feel the same about suggesting Mighty as a Speed type. Maybe he was just Sonic with a walljump in Chaotix, but canonically he's a bruiser on par with Knuckles. (At the very least.) And judging by Mania's trailer and his new ability, SEGA gets that.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#39595: Apr 27th 2018 at 6:35:10 PM

Maybe it could use Chaos 4, the fish form? That was speedy.

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ElementX from The Astral Realm Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Love is an open door
#39598: Apr 28th 2018 at 12:12:42 AM

According to the post, Mighty would have been Power, with Metal Sonic as Speed. I imagine Chaos would have shape-shifted into some type of speedy form.

I wonder if Mighty and Ray would have been villains if this had come to fruition? Maybe they were tricked/brainwashed? Was E102 supposed to be Gamma or Omega?? So many questions!

Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
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#39599: Apr 28th 2018 at 12:30:38 AM

E102 is Gamma, which fits with that being Team Adventure.

I think metal would've faced-heel turned or something.

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#39600: Apr 30th 2018 at 9:05:52 AM

Mania Adventures episode 2 :D

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