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amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#551: Sep 16th 2017 at 2:34:14 PM

Still better than the perpetual rights HG claimed they had.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#552: Sep 17th 2017 at 10:58:16 AM

[up]There's an end date.

And since we all know the Robotech movie is NEVER friggin happening, that's probably when a Macross movie is announced.

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#553: Sep 17th 2017 at 11:28:51 AM

While it's true Tatsunoko may be wary of making another deal, even with Funi, Viz, or, hell, Netflix, the flip side is that Japan has already taken the step of putting English subs on Delta's bluray release and cutting the middleman out altogether.

edited 17th Sep '17 11:29:53 AM by TheAirman

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#554: Dec 10th 2017 at 4:47:53 AM

How come the plural of "Zentran" is "Zentradi" (dropping the final "n") while the plural of "Meltran" is "Meltrandi" (keeping the final "n")?

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#555: Dec 10th 2017 at 9:55:50 AM

Languages do weird stuff like that... including fictional alien ones.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#556: Feb 28th 2018 at 2:36:52 PM

So you guys remember how there'd be a Robotech tabletop RPG?

Apparently, Palladium's license for Robotech has expired and the remaining Kickstarter rewards are equally kaput.

...Man, something weird's going on with anything that has to do with Robotech, huh? And how's that movie coming along? Haven't heard much about that, have we?

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#557: Jul 7th 2018 at 7:08:41 PM

Necro time:

Bad news: Apparently we'll be hearing some info about that Robotech movie this coming Saturday at the 2018 Anime Expo. sad

ROBOTECH: A LOOK TO THE FUTURE

Saturday July 7th

10:00 AM to 11:00 AM

Live Programming 5 (Room 404 AB)

Harmony Gold USA presents the latest developments in the Robotech universe, from awesome new products to the live action film in the works at Sony Pictures with the producers of 300 and the director of Stephen King's "It"

Who wants to wager that they'll be greeted by the audience with a massive "BOO"?

Good news: Macross creator Shoji Kawamori will be featured at this year's Otakon. grin

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#558: Jul 7th 2018 at 7:16:35 PM

Robotech has long since become its own thing, I don't much care what that franchise does.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#559: Jul 7th 2018 at 7:30:03 PM

Last I heard the most recent lawsuit said the rights would FINALLY revert to Tatsunoko in 2021, at which point we can pick up Macross Frontier and Macross Delta legally.

Kawamori himself wrote a brief treatment for a Macross film that took out the Meltrandi and half the Zentraedi characters. It’s actually more in the spirit of 7, with the idea of peace overcoming the villain rather than firepower. Personally, having a Macross film and not having the insane Max/Milla romance feels like a waste.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#560: Jul 7th 2018 at 7:45:34 PM

I didn't finish Delta but isn't there supposed to be a new series this year? I'm guessing it's for fall but I don't think we've heard anything about it since its announcement.

Ominae (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#561: Jul 9th 2018 at 7:37:37 PM

https://www.t-ono.net/interview/shoji-kawamori-interview-anime-expo-2016.html

An old interview with Kawamori back in 2016.

Edited by Ominae on Jul 9th 2018 at 7:38:40 AM

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#563: Jul 3rd 2019 at 5:23:35 AM

Houston, we may have a very huge problem.

What future, if any, does Harmony Gold have with the Macross / Robotech franchise after 2021? Join Harmony Gold’s VP of Marketing, Kevin McKeever, as he shows the path forward to 2021 and beyond.

We're doomed, aren't we? sad

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Jul 3rd 2019 at 8:24:18 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#564: Jul 3rd 2019 at 7:30:59 AM

[up]...I know this is overused, but it bears repeating.

They’re either launching a new lawsuit, or against all common sense and the begging from their fans, Tatsunoko re-upped with Harmony Gold for another tour of not letting the US see any Macross besides the original.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#565: Jul 3rd 2019 at 9:08:19 AM

Actually, further digging around made me discover that on June 2nd this year, Big West, the primary sponsor and copyright holder of the Macross series, won the right to trademark Macross in the UK.

So between that and HG having some panel regarding Macross and Robotech, what could it mean?

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#566: Jul 3rd 2019 at 4:01:49 PM

[up]x3

Don't forget regardless of that happens with Macross, Harmony Gold owns Robotech and they can't lose that.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#567: Jul 4th 2019 at 4:28:40 PM

[up] Yeah, but Robotech only got as big as it did because the Macross arc was considered the best Robotech arc.

HG made it so that the western side of the globe has no way of getting a hold of the other Macross titles.

As per Macross's Trivia page, under No Export For You:

For those readers who want to know how Harmony Gold (an American company) got into the Japanese legal snarl in the first place, you can thank some nameless, dense California judge. Harmony Gold created the Frankenstein's monster that is Robotech (see its entry), and as the legal battles over international rights heated up in Japan, they got involved to try and keep from losing the series – a Japanese court declared in 2003 that Tatsunoko never had the right to grant a license to Harmony Gold in the first place, which normally would have voided the original 1985 contract… except that American courts rarely acknowledge decisions from foreign courts (in fact, some states outright ban judges from doing so). This judge allegedly granted Harmony Gold not only exclusive control of the international distribution of the original Macross, but also inexplicably gave them permanent rights to license and distribute every Macross-related series that will ever exist. In other words, HG holds the trademark on Macross outside Japan and there's nothing the original creators can do about it except just refuse to license it out (which is exactly what they do) as a middle finger to Harmony Gold.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#568: Jul 5th 2019 at 6:18:55 AM

[up]And to think there are still people who say Macross is worthless without Robotech and are hoping HG re-secures the license to continue doing nothing with it.

So the panel is at 6pmPDT/9pmEST. And for added fun, afterwards, they’re going to do a livestream with the internet channel Clownfish TV. I can’t see this ending well in any capacity.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#569: Jul 5th 2019 at 2:37:59 PM

And to think there are still people who say Macross is worthless without Robotech and are hoping HG re-secures the license to continue doing nothing with it.

To say Macross is worthless without Robotech is lies.

Also, a livestream?! Oh dear god, I don't want to see where this goes...

KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#570: Jul 5th 2019 at 5:26:49 PM

And to think there are still people who say Macross is worthless without Robotech and are hoping HG re-secures the license to continue doing nothing with it.

Those people need to be beaten about the head with pool noodles until they repent of their foolishness

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#571: Jul 5th 2019 at 5:40:22 PM

Well, panel starts in half an hour and “a reversal of fortune” sounds really ominous. I can see it now -

“Yes, we locked up the rights to Macross extending our contract for another 30 years and no, there’s not a damn thing you nerds can do about it. And don’t bother asking for anything Macross related on US shores...ever.”

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#572: Jul 5th 2019 at 6:14:15 PM

Harmony Gold allegedly re-upped with Tatsunoko for 35 YEARS.

I will spare you all the Linkara-esque rant.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#573: Jul 5th 2019 at 7:31:20 PM

Why do they even have it? They don't even use it.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#575: Jul 5th 2019 at 7:44:58 PM

[up][up][up]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

How can Tatsunoko say yes to this?!

It. Makes. No. Sense!


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