Macross general Thread

The military sometimes has to do dick moves in order to make sure their personnel can handle things and prepare them for worse down the line. It's a sad fact of life that they cannot avoid hurting people's feelings in the process.

I mean, what would you have them do? Sign her up and just pray that she doesn't freeze up in terror at a critical moment when people's lives are on the line?

edited 12th Apr '16 3:55:57 PM by DarkHunter

They didn't lie about the failure. She flunked that audition. They just gave her a second chance in a scenario that was closer to the one in which she'd initially shown promise.

What's precedent ever done for us?

If anything it's unfair to the other candidates in the audition, who didn't get a second chance after they'd failed.

Anyone think that "Do you remember love?" will come back again?

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They didn't have hidden potential that Walkure knew about, though. The whole thing was basically a case of 'OK, we know this girl has courage, talent, and a hefty dose of supernatural power, so how do we make her show it?'

What's precedent ever done for us?

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They already knew she could handle it though as they were there when she ran in to sing last episode and was in danger the whole time. Hell they even acknowledge that it happened at the start of this episode. There was really no point to it and een if there was that still doesn't stop it from being a dick move.

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No? They said this was the final audition which means that she didn't actually fail the audition at all. Especially since it was implied earlier in the episode that you have to pass multiple auditions to get into the group. If anything it means that she and maybe the three others they said had the waves or whatever did pass the audition this episode.

They weren't sure whether they'd seen a freak occurrence on the battlefield, so they needed to check. As for the audition, failing the final means you're done (for that year) regardless of how many steps you've skipped. That's the point of it being the final - they've winnowed out the cream of the crop and are comparing them to see who's the best fit. Nobody in that group, including her, generated enough fold waves to be militarily useful, which is why the girls who equalled or beat her didn't get recruited. She only got another chance because they'd seen she could do it in certain circumstances, and wanted to check whether those circumstances were repeatable. If they weren't, c'est la vie, sorry for the trauma, but they had reason to hope and believe they were.

What's precedent ever done for us?

In this weeks episode of Macross Delta,we chase a fat cat. Don't worry, it kind of important this episode.

edited 17th Apr '16 10:31:01 PM by mega-dark

Hyped for Hyperdimension Neptunia V 2

Mercat is my new favourite character. That thing at the girls' dorm is kind of creepy, though

Are Makina and Reina a couple?

I guess this'll lead to Hayate being tolerable?

So far everything's been pretty fast-paced, which is a little concerning given the number of characters they're trying to wrangle. I really like the overall feel of the setting, but at this rate it doesn't look like we'll get terribly much time to enjoy it.

Freya wound up stealing the spotlight in what I thought would be a Mirage- and Hayate-centric episode, which is either a good or a bad sign depending on how things play out.

By the way, thanks to the people who explained Zentradi (did I get that right?) to me, Macross is even more interesting than I originally thought.

De nada.

Speaking of Macross... did anyone else who's seen the original series have a "whoa" moment then the VF-1s showed up. In Blue and Red no less. I thought for a second that they were actually Max and Mirria's machines then I remembered that a) Mirria's unit was red with white stripes and b) got trashed by Gamlin.

Of course.

Considering the VF-1 was already in service in Space War I (2009) and apparantly its trainer variant is still in service in 2067, this means it's pushing B-52 levels of service time. There are literally grandchildren (Mirage!) of the original VF-1 pilots flying these trainers.

edited 20th Apr '16 1:59:03 AM by mwisse

By the way, do we have a trope describing Freya's singing at the moment? I mean where she sings better when she's in danger or someone she knows is in danger?

Hyped for Hyperdimension Neptunia V 2

There's probably a trope for that, but it might not be specifically tailored to singing. It would probably be a general thing where someone reacts better when they're in danger.

Die or Fly. Or something related

In this weeks episode of Macross Delta War is declared. Also Freya and all Windmarenes have a 30 year lifespan. I get the feeling the more she sings, the faster she dies.

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Half-decent song, and awesome Valkyrie action. Also, villains who learn from their past failures and adapt their battle plans? Now we're talking!

I find it slightly amusing that Windermere thinks they can take on the entire New UN Spacy. And we still don't know why they want to declare war.

Something that's bugging me, though: the Var Syndrome is affecting the entire galaxy, according to the narrator. And the only group that can counter it is the Walkure, who have to be there in person? Bullshit! How is this one idol group getting ferried all over the galaxy and having enough downtime to relax as we've seen them doing? Fold travel may be FTL, but it isn't that fast! It took some of those colonization fleets years to reach their destinations! The only way this makes sense is if Walkure is just one of many idol groups singing against the Var (and now I'm imagining Basara telling Var-crazed berserkers to STFU and listen to his song).

I predict everyone's going to be suspicious and hostile toward Freyja next episode.

edited 24th Apr '16 10:27:53 PM by DarkHunter

I suspect fold quartz. If they've some how managed to gather/manufacture it en masse, or at least enough for high priority vessels like the one they're using, that they're drastically cutting travel times.

Alternatively this is only in one particular section of the galaxy and Windmere thinks they can deal with local forces and entrench enough to discourage or hold off arriving re-enforcements. At least long enough to negotiate a favourable end to hostilities

If those Windermereans only live to their thirties, Freyja's thing is basically a midlife crisis

The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!

I was amused by how Messer looked forward to his offscreen one-on-one duel with Keith. Looks like they aren't a fallacy after all!

Oh and I wonder if those two older looking aerial knights are past thirty since they look a lot older. 30 is the average lifespan from what they've said.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.

And now some logic kicks in,..

If they live only about 30, then to keep the country somehow running, they need to dump everything up to and including higher educations into kids' heads before they are 10, 15 at most - otherwise they are on a straight path to societal collapse simply because too many people are sitting in the classes and too few are actually working... Unless their world is a such a crapsac place (for general people, elites we've seen so far don't count) where kids are working at fabrics/farms/whatever and studying simultaneously from the age of 5 or something.

Thus, as it was said above, Frejya - despite her looks - is a full adult by her peoples' norms. Though, she seems not to be indoctrinated by her home state's doctrine too much as otherwise she'd have seen Hayate as some sort of a terrible criminal due to his laziness. Perhaps that lack of indoctrination is the real reason she "ran away"? Or just might be a dissident.

edited 26th Apr '16 11:12:50 AM by NHunter

Or someone slipper her a recording of a Sharon Apple song.

To extend the Fridge Logic a step:

In order for parents/relatives/the rest of the community to care whether or not a kid gets married, they have to actually live long enough to be around for it. This means that the average age of marriage and first childbirth for girls has to be comfortably below 15, even assuming proportionately shorted gestation periods.

Freya's not running away from an Arranged Marriage when she's to young to be thinking about that yet. Instead, she's the Windermerean equivalent of a Christmas Cake.

Not that I haven't touched Delta yet, but anyone get the feeling the Windmerians are like the Emaan from Super Dimension Century Orguss, in that, Emaan women become Christmas Cakes at eighteen?