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This thread's for the Spider-Man comics and spin-offs, whether they're decades old or brand new.

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Since everyone likes talking about him. I know little about him(Ironically,I got nearly all I know about him from a Batman thread),but he's apparently important so I made this thread. Enjoy.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#4401: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:20:01 PM

Actually, Laura's claw set-up is the result of her creators. They actually toe out her claws, coated them in adamantium, and re-inserted them in their current configuration.

They were not lovely people there.

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deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#4402: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:25:54 PM

wait then how come her claws didnt just heal in their original configeration? i know she's gotten them taken out before.

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#4403: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:35:44 PM

[up] Any time her claws were removed, they'd have to be put back in. It wouldn't make any sense for her to regrow claws coated with adamantium, after all.

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deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#4404: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:38:33 PM

no but like why wouldnt she just put them back to their original configeration.

eh whatever.

so karn is 000 peter right?

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#4405: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:40:38 PM

Well, the point still stands I think.

Her being faster and more intuitive than Peter doesn't bother me because it has precedent with Mayday.

Its a bit vexing because faster/intuitiver female vs stronger male is so old hat that it has beard but it doesn't strike me as a mary sue trait (and also that descriptor is useless). The other complaints I don't have rationalizations for. The instant makeout thing was not great.

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deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#4406: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:42:35 PM

[up]but again the mayday one was different because she inherited it. silk was bitten by the same spider after peter. if anything she should be weaker.

Tiamatty X-Men X-Pert from Now on Twitter Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: Brony
#4407: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:44:20 PM

[up][up][up] Presumably, she doesn't put them back to the normal configuration because she's used to the current one. It has advantages. The toe-claws make climbing easier, and also give her an extra weapon she can use. Opponents may not expect it, so she can surprise them with it.

[up][up] Maybe. But it feels like it was done to too great an extent. She's too much faster, and her Spider-Sense too much more sensitive, especially considering she was bitten by the same spider, and doesn't have 13 years of experience improving her skills.

edited 19th Sep '14 8:45:30 PM by Tiamatty

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CL Since: Apr, 2014
#4408: Sep 20th 2014 at 3:53:48 AM

For what it's worth, a flashback showed her getting some training from Ezekiel, since she couldn't control her powers when they first manifested.

Trivia: Morlun also had two brothers and a sister in that book The Darkest Hours.

jdj42 Since: Oct, 2012
#4409: Sep 20th 2014 at 6:51:09 AM

It's pretty consistent that females of the Homo Spiderus Responsibilitus species have enhanced Spider-Sense and agility.

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Anteres Since: May, 2010
#4410: Sep 20th 2014 at 12:13:02 PM

Is it possible this whole "Silk is better than Peter" thing is like the "Sp Ock is a better Spider-man than Peter" thing ?

That it's going to seem than way but the story turns round to "No, this is why Peter Parker is awesome" ?

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#4412: Sep 20th 2014 at 12:42:45 PM

I'm not exactly as up to date as everyone else, but yeah, while Silk isn't exactly a Sue yet there's definitely a high risk of her becoming one. Even if you can argue precedent for her improved abilities, she's still has "Ezekiel's pet project", "tied directly to Peter's origin", "makes Peter instinctively want to fuck her", and "gets a job with no resume" as marks against her. She can still come around, but she's still getting off on a bad start.

edited 20th Sep '14 12:43:19 PM by Watchtower

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#4413: Sep 20th 2014 at 2:01:55 PM

[up][up][up] The difference is anyone with any sense could've figured right from that start that Superior Spider-Man wasn't meant to show Spock as a better hero. It was always going to be about him ultimately failing. So far, it's looking like Silk's arc is going to be about her learning how to be a true hero - she questioned why Peter was risking his life to help Electro, so it seems like she's not quite as selfless as he is. On the other hand, unlike Spock, she doesn't seem to be a self-aggrandizing egomaniac, so she's still pretty heroic.

So, yeah, I think Slott's run has jumped the shark.

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Hodor Cleric of Banjo from Westeros Since: Dec, 1969
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#4414: Sep 20th 2014 at 2:23:13 PM

I find the existence of Silk weird because it reminds me of the kind of Remember the New Guy? thing done with Jessica Jones, but played with no sense of irony.

Like Jessica has the background of being this forgotten acquaintance of Peter's who got powers and became a superhero, but it works because the trajectory of her life mirrors the trajectory of comics- going from Silver Age optimism to Dark Age cynicism and back.

And similarly, the Sentry also has that Remember the New Guy? thing, likewise for literary effect.

It's just weird to see the similar device used, but played completely straight.

edited 20th Sep '14 2:29:23 PM by Hodor

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#4415: Sep 20th 2014 at 2:24:37 PM

They should just port Mayday over to 616

although actually hiatus is basically the best way to avoid having her killed off.

I fear for her safety in Spider-Verse.

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#4416: Sep 20th 2014 at 2:34:02 PM

Morlun has Quesada's face as he strangles her, screaming "PETER DOESN'T GROW UP! PETER NEVER HAS CHILDREN! I'M NOT OLD! I'M NOT OLD!"

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jdj42 Since: Oct, 2012
#4418: Sep 22nd 2014 at 4:28:34 AM

[up]YES!

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Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#4419: Sep 23rd 2014 at 5:41:54 AM

Wait given that Peter and Silk are based off Spiders... wouldn't it be amusing and more accurate if he were the more agile one while she was stronger?

edited 23rd Sep '14 5:47:43 AM by Canid117

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#4420: Sep 23rd 2014 at 7:23:18 AM

Yes.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#4421: Sep 23rd 2014 at 8:21:36 AM

So is anyone wondering how 616!Spidey is gonna react to Spider-Gwen when they inevitably meet up?

Because it's been established that 616!Gwen is long dead, right? Makes one wonder how Pete will react when meeting a Gwen Stacy who was the one to be bitten by the spider…

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#4422: Sep 23rd 2014 at 8:22:42 AM

"ANOTHER CLOOOOONE?!!?"

Gwen hasn't had the clone saga yet so she's just kind of disconcerted.

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TheSpaceJawa Since: Jun, 2013
#4423: Sep 23rd 2014 at 8:35:38 AM

wild mass guess Spider-Gwen's Clone Saga will involve multiple versions of Peter Lizard wild mass guess

jdj42 Since: Oct, 2012
#4424: Sep 23rd 2014 at 9:55:44 AM

wild mass guessSpider-Gwen will barely interact with anyone because she will be a tertiary character.wild mass guess

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#4425: Sep 23rd 2014 at 9:58:38 AM

Yeah its likely but there's always hope for a miniseries spinoff provided she doesn't die horribly.

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