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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
Has it really been years since Paul's introduction?
The Protomen enhanced my life.
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I get the feeling that MJ will break the Spider who gobbles again at the end, and they will reconcile, and be open to dating in time for the next run.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 25th 2024 at 12:03:37 AM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
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This era is just made to piss people off, huh?
Wake me up at your own risk.
I feel Wells has been winging it since "Dead Language", say what you want about the quality of his work throughout, but that first year he seemed to have a vision that he saw through to the end, everything after that event has reeked of the kind of reactionary backtracking, second guessing, and rewriting that was rumoured to have plagued Spencer's run, only it's more apparent this time.
Edited by Zarius on Apr 24th 2024 at 9:54:40 AM
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They've realized they can get away with anything at this point. No matter how bad things get, no matter how pathetic they've made Spider-Man, the comics will still sell.
They have no incentive to undo one more day, only incentive to keep it. Even Ultimate Spider-Man profits from how bad the main comic is doing, it wouldn't have sold as much as it did if OMD and Paul weren't the status quo.
This is why I've pretty much given up on 616 Peter. He's a doomed Spider-Man.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Spider-Girl's Peter Parker from MC 2 is the 'real' Spider-Man (he used to even be advertised as such on Spider-Girl books), he's the one with all the original history up 'till 1998 and nothing afterwards counts
Edited by Zarius on Apr 24th 2024 at 10:18:56 AM
It's kinda hilarious you say that considering we're seeing objective proof to contrary, as Ultimate Spider-Man is hilariously kicking the 616 book's ass month after month in terms of both sales and reception.
That's my attitude as well. MC2 is my canon Spider-Man, with some of the Post-Clone Saga highlights like the JMS run included as Broad Strokes.
Edited by immortaleditor on Apr 24th 2024 at 10:20:29 AM
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Exactly my point. Amazing Spider-Man being so bad means readers will flock more to Ultimate Spider-Man.
And Amazing Spider-Man still sells, that's what matters to Marvel. So they can peddle the shitty status quo to get people to buy the actual good book.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Also, Marvel probably already made the contract with Zeb Wells to write the book to the until the certain number, so they have to keep him around until his contract with ASM is done.
They don't want to undo OMD because it does give what they want, a standard version of character that everyone can jumped in and jumped out for the comic.
It's like the same reason back when Dragon ball editor did not want Goku to grow up because he was afraid there's going to be a backlash over the protagonist's change of status quo and the readers aren't going to adjust with the new status quo.
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Speaking of MC2, I wonder what a similar setting would look like if it branched off from more modern continuity.
With Miles now in the mix, he might be one of Mayday’s mentors.
The future Avengers would probably look different since there’s more young heroes to choose from
Normie has gotten even more characterization so he might be different and he’s besties with Dylan or something.
Well, it would be a third take. I think Renew Your Vows was the take 2 of the spider-daughter AU
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I saw a piece of fan-art a while back of Mayday and Miles hanging out, with Mayday calling him Uncle Miles and being mentored by him, and I definitely gotta say I love it.
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I wonder how Hulk would be treated in a new MC 2.
Best case scenario would him living in the Savage Land with Skaar and the Warbound.
"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"
That's a pretty cool idea. Have him as a kind of barbarian king who finds peace in the Savage Land with the Warbound. You could also maybe bring in some of the lore from Immortal Hulk in some way.
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A savage land for a savage Hulk
Hey, what happened to the Warbound? Does Hulk still keep in touch with them?
Edited by Bocaj on Apr 24th 2024 at 11:55:34 AM
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It could also be a way to get a completely Marvel-owned Suspiciously Similar Substitute for the Exiled from Continuity Conan the Barbarian (and thus fill the niche that Marvel losing the Conan license left) without having to make up another Barbarian Hero Conan knockoff from scratch or bring one of the existing ones out of mothballs.
Edited by TrashJack on Apr 24th 2024 at 2:56:29 PM
They seem to have mostly just fucked off back to space to live their lives. Their most recent appearance was during Civil War II, where they were among Bruce's family and friends who attended his funeral and will-reading, complete with Korg giving a really nice speech about what Hulk meant to him. They haven't really been brought up since than, to the point of being among the unlucky few bits of Hulk lore that Ewing didn't get a chance to really touch on in Immortal Hulk before it ended. Think it says a lot about how good that run is that my only major complaint about it is feeling that it wasn't longer, because Ewing really tried to give some love to every major character and era of Hulk and ultimately couldn't tackle everything before handing the book to Cates.
I'd really love a return to Sakaar in general. Not only is Planet Hulk easily one of the best Hulk stories ever, but the lore and worldbuilding for Sakaar is just *chef's kiss* perfect.
Edited by immortaleditor on Apr 24th 2024 at 12:05:18 PM
Planet Hulk was really good. Fun (personal)fact...that when Hastings was around...I actually got the Planet Hulk trade for less than cover price because someone mislabeled the price tag.
Korg still shows up from time to time, especially when Greg Pak writes something Hulk related.. The others haven't shown up in awhile.
"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"
Well, Marvel have seemingly conceded that Gang War was a bust, because in Daredevil#8 Fisk is reinstated as Kingpin
Edited by Zarius on Apr 24th 2024 at 11:20:08 AM
Fisk always regains his throne eventually.
"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"
he/him
Whereas in this week's Avengers United, Tombstone is still clearly in charge...
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I can't WAIT to see the Spider who Gobbles vs the Kingpin. Bonus points if Kingpin announces that Spider-Goblin has rigged the city to blow to the people of New York.
Points if anyone can get the reference.
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I’m glad that Devil’s Reign was truly pointless.
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How many times has Fisk ever been the unquestioned Big Bad of a major story in Spider-Man's corner after the Silver Age?
Like almost every thing I see him in, he's always something of a Big Bad Wannabe.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
I'm guessing Wells has specific ideas for his status quo at the end of the run.