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Edited by MacronNotes on Jul 10th 2023 at 10:58:13 AM
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Yeah, but that falls apart because of Norman's flanderization into being a loveless sociopath who despised his son and saw him as nothing but a pawn.
In general, a lot of the reason I hate Goblin is because I feel like the character has been taken far away from the things that actually make him even remotely interesting in favor of bad writers trying to mimic the Sam Raimi movies in the most shallow way possible.
Part of why I like Revenge of the Green Goblin is while it's a post-Clone Saga story it feels like it could've been a pre-Spidey #121 story too.
EDIT: That story predates and inspired the Raimi films and other adaptations that used a similar plot, so that may be why.
The 90's cartoon really leaned into the sympathetic Norman more than most.
Edited by lalalei2001 on Mar 24th 2024 at 11:56:36 AM
The Protomen enhanced my life.
"Revenge Of The Green Goblin" is pretty much the only Post-Clone Saga usage of Norman that I actually like. It's literally the one and only arc with him after being revived that makes his revival not feel like a huge mistake.
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In that lens, clone saga takes on a new sense of Norman trying to undermine Peterβs identity so itβs easier to influence him
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If nothing else, I like the Norman owning the Bugle for the time and especially if you default to Spider-Girl canon, his return at the end of the Clone Saga feels like a nice final era for both him and Spider-Man.
Also just for fun and barring the Spider-Girl comics which often touched on the storyline, which moments from 1999 to 2008 in Marvel would acknowledge the Clone Saga in a direct manner. Refer to the opening of my thread here:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/206-comics-and-graphic-novels/78725282
I always shipped Mayday and Felicia's daughter.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who likes to think of Mayday as being bisexual.
But also you shipping her with Felicia's daughter specifically gives me hilarious mental images of Peter being weirded out by it and triple-checking that he is of absolutely no genetic relation to her ![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
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Huh, the daughters of Spider-Man and Black Cat getting together does get weird when you remember their parents used to date.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
I liked Wes a lot, I also liked that Mayday was oblivious to him while she was dating Felicity's brother and had to learn to appreciate him. He even helped her deal with her dad's temporary death post-Spiderverse. They seemed to have broken up off-panel, which I know upset some fans who really took to him as her potential endgame
I was so annoyed about that, that I commissioned and wrote a couple of one-shot one-page comics depicting a future where they got back together and married.
Edited by Zarius on Mar 24th 2024 at 11:35:50 AM
In light of Greg Weisman writing The Spectacular Spider-Men, Josh Keaton and Andrew Kishino did a voiced version of what's already the comic's best gag!
You love to hear it!
Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 25th 2024 at 10:54:07 AM
That was nice to hear. Neither voice actor missed a beat. 
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I don't know why he wants to be a regular. I'm a regular at a place and the knowing tone when they ask me if I want the same thing I always get hits me for psychic damage
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I dunno, personally I appreciate that kind of good service, and always tip.
Wait a damn minu-
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I was once asked if I knew there were other items on the menu.
They actually put a menu in the bag with my food. Just in case I wasn't aware.
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Huh, thats kinda dickish of them.
Or maybe itβs a misguided attempt at being helpful.
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That's the struggle of being a regular with a usual.
Peter is a fool to want it.
Edited by Bocaj on Mar 25th 2024 at 11:39:38 AM
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"It's Paul, right?"
Man, that name brings nothing but bad luck to Spider-Man, doesn't it?
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Paul is a canon event now.
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how biblical. 
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Man, Paul is going to endure for a long time because of the memes.
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Yeah.
It sucks.
I don't want Paul to die, because it'd be a waste of time sparing panel space to kill him. I just want him to disappear (or not suck).
But now thanks to memes, he's gonna live forever. I honestly don't think he's even worth mocking.
One Strip! One Strip!
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More bad news Spider-bros. I showed Spectacular Spider-Man to a teen girl I'm babysitting, and she was not impressed.
She's mostly a fan of Miles Morales thanks to the animated movies.
Are we all being replaced by those younger fans?
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Fair enough, but Spectacular is still...spectacular. It's a shame she didn't jive with it.
Maybe show her the fight with the Sinister Six. It's hard to not appreciate that fight.
Edited by HandsomeRob on Mar 26th 2024 at 9:45:32 AM
One Strip! One Strip!
Yeah, that's when things got REALLY personal as I said.
Plus, Norman blamed Peter for Harry's death, not his shitty parenting, so there's also that.
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