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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#1: Jan 25th 2011 at 4:47:45 PM

With out you yourself looking misogynistic?

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ArgeusthePaladin from Byzantine. Since: May, 2010
#2: Jan 25th 2011 at 4:50:22 PM

Make sure he is not the Author Avatar or delivering Author Tract.

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Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#3: Jan 25th 2011 at 4:54:10 PM

That won't stop idiot "critics" from saying that they are Author Tracts though.

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ArgeusthePaladin from Byzantine. Since: May, 2010
#4: Jan 25th 2011 at 4:55:44 PM

Which is to say this is entirely subjective. Meep.

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#5: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:06:57 PM

Actually, I want to know that myself, since I have a misogynist in one of my ensemble casts and I'm not sure how obvious is too obvious and how subtle is not subtle enough.

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QQQQQ from Canada Since: Jul, 2011
#6: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:17:53 PM

Make sure you let it on that you're doing this tongue-in-cheek; like having other characters with more sensible values. It is like making a straw feminist, or fundamentalist — except you're packing him with slightly more than the usual 100% Kidding(R) straw.

Edmania o hai from under a pile of erasers Since: Apr, 2010
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#7: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:20:07 PM

Is it a bad guy or a good guy?

If it's a good guy have him be real conservative.

If it's a bad guy, then it shouldn't be too hard, just make him go all "women sux lol gtfo and back in the kitchen" and all that shit.

If it's a bad guy who is supposed to be barely sympathetic, look here (or somewhere with a similar name, I don't exactly remember where)

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#8: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:29:47 PM

What the Hell, Hero?. Something certain sexist characters tend to not get in certain forms of media —cough El Goonish Shive cough—

What the Hell, Hero? is what you need. You need to call them out for their bullshit. Have your characters hate him appropriately. Some might be more fine with it than others, but there will definitely be some who are down right PISSED.

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juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#9: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:35:11 PM

Life On Mars, if the character is a hero (or on the side of the good guys). he's (Gene Hunt) not a complete mysoginistic, though. But he has tendencies. Big Tendencies. As Sam Tyler is supposed to be our surrogate, he mocks him and tells him he's wrong. And that's the gist of it, really. Have other characters notice how wrong he is.

edited 25th Jan '11 7:07:22 PM by juancarlos11

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Edmania o hai from under a pile of erasers Since: Apr, 2010
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#10: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:35:26 PM

Add violence as reactions

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#11: Jan 25th 2011 at 5:43:37 PM

That actually works too. Of course don't overcompensate.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#12: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:31:41 PM

@Edmania: I had I look at that site, I don't see what's so misogynist about it.

edited 25th Jan '11 6:36:23 PM by joeyjojo

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Edmania o hai from under a pile of erasers Since: Apr, 2010
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#14: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:36:38 PM

I recall the forums of a site that has a similar name (or that site itself, idk) having "nice guys" bitching about how the "slutty girls" wouldn't pay them with sex whenever they did their "nice" shit while complaining about the "jerks" that dared to treat women like people instead of goddesses of submission.

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ArgeusthePaladin from Byzantine. Since: May, 2010
#15: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:41:56 PM

There was another site called "Bitches alliance" or something to that effect that actively calls out these faux-Nice Guys rather harshly.

The moral of this story is, if you cannot find a girl, man it up and do not complain. You will just make a fool of yourself and paint a red bullseye on your forehead before the populace of the 'net.

edited 25th Jan '11 6:42:26 PM by ArgeusthePaladin

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#16: Jan 25th 2011 at 6:59:07 PM

Ah yes 'nice guys' now I'm on the trolly. Yeah there's some truth to that setrotype. I whouldnt say that they are misogynist as just sad.

edited 25th Jan '11 7:05:23 PM by joeyjojo

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Edmania o hai from under a pile of erasers Since: Apr, 2010
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#17: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:06:37 PM

It's not like they can't be both.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#18: Jan 25th 2011 at 7:20:17 PM

Well I admit that anyone who ever carved the word    bitch    into a dead hooker likely wasn't get any in a the time I wouldn't say that being bad with women put you there yet.

Anyway my character was an ex military police who after he was dear johned and later loss his job to a literally retarded woman thanks Positive Discrimination and nepotism developed serious issues with women.

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#19: Jan 26th 2011 at 6:16:03 AM

You know, from what I've seen, most people who discriminate against people don't do it because of one or two isolated incidents. They do it because of lack of contact with said form of person they are discriminating against.

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#20: Jan 26th 2011 at 1:18:23 PM

But not all.

Important distinction there.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#21: Jan 26th 2011 at 1:21:40 PM

Obviously, but nowadays, there always seems to be a Freudian Excuse involved. No one is ever just a dick because they are a dick. No one ever has the flaw because they are flawed. It must be justified somehow. In all honesty, it would take a huge ass Freudian Excuse to justify something like a prejudice, and in the end, it really doesn't justify shit, especially when someone would be surrounded by thousands of positive examples.

edited 26th Jan '11 1:22:52 PM by MrAHR

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#22: Jan 26th 2011 at 1:43:05 PM

Indeed.

But then, you also have people who are just bigots, seizing upon those one or two isolated incidents to excuse their bigotry.

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#23: Jan 26th 2011 at 1:45:23 PM

Naturally. Those are people who are really putting the 'excuse' in Freudian Excuse, and for the most part, are still part of the 'bigots because they are bigoted' and really not so much of what the OP was describing.

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CyganAngel Away on the wind~ from Arcadia Since: Oct, 2010
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#24: Jan 26th 2011 at 2:30:24 PM

The OP's character pretty much sounds like he had an Ass Pull forced upon him to force him to lose his job.

Seriously, losing his job to a retarded woman just because of Positive Discrimination?

That... No, I'm not commenting on the OP's character.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#25: Jan 26th 2011 at 4:52:24 PM

No he blames it on Positive Discrimination the real reason he got the sack was that he's both corrupt and incompetent.

How a mentally handicapped women got his job is another story.

edited 26th Jan '11 6:29:16 PM by joeyjojo

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