Puella Magi Madoka Magica

No clue, there's no mention of them as far as I've heard. The rest just took portals from Mirrors to jump over to Kamihama after Kagome pointed things out.

I see...

seems like there are more spoilers from reddit, no summaries like the ones previously posted yet,. but the big stuff includes Touka and Nemu's plans coming to fruition and leading to them (and the other torpid girls) changed into Uwasa, Iroha realizing her ability is time time rewinding (kinda reminds me of the flavor of the healing spells of FFXIV's Astrologian class TBH...and of course Madoka and Hormura's powers) and I!Iroha merging with Sena and Chizuru somehow to deal with Sarah Mirablis W

the arc seemingly ends with Iroha (with Ui in tow, becuase they are still merged) following in Madoka's footsteps and and using her powers to return everyone (but Touka and Nemu) to normal and ends up a metaphysical entity (albeit one that everyone remembers this time)

I'm expecting any continuation to either be a reflection to Rebellion, or to follow Iroha into the beyond...or both

Edited by MorningStar1337 on Sep 16th 2022 at 6:50:51 AM

Also the Mirror Witch's◊ real name is Winchester, as if there was any lingering doubt as to her inspiration

I guess Sarah Mirabilis was the name of the clone used by the Promised Blood

Edited by asterism on Sep 17th 2022 at 11:36:48 AM

Rather strnage choice if that is the case.

Anyway, u/lego3257 had released their summarys of the current part of C12, (e4, e5.) for those that need more context.

Well, it was more than just Sarah Miraibilis. It was Sarah Mirabilis W.

So the final part of chapter 12 and the end of Arc 2 is now out, real summaries are still being put together but:

The APS was spread throughout the whole world, but Iroha, Ui, Touka, and Nemu are confirmed erased to do so, with only Magical Girls able to remember them. They still exist and watch over everyone, but they can't be seen or heard, even if their presence is still felt by the others and is at its strongest at the site of the Eternal Sakura rumor. Magical Girls haven't yet been revealed to the public, Tasuke and Kagome treat it as the work of years to do so properly. Folklore as a group disbands and they all go to join the group's they'd infiltrated, while staying friends. There's a series of short epilogue blurbs for everyone, some more short term and other's longer term than others.

This feels like the end of the story, tbh

be interesting to see if the game continues from here

Kinda gives off Frozen 2 vibes. In the sense that the first part was only one half of the story.

Which makes the premature decision to adapt it to an anime all the more disappointing

Well, at the Magia Day livestream event they talked a little about what was next, stories of historical magical girls.

But also, the epilogues are kinda weird in that some like Hinano, Sayuki, Tsuruno, and Felicia are just months in the future, while some like Himena's are both years in the future, and note they're still working towards their dream.

Edited by doineedaname on Sep 26th 2022 at 12:03:08 PM

Double post but there's a translation of all the girl's epilogues from the final part of chapter 12 out now.

Btw, it looks like we won't have to wait much longer for more news on the next film.

You mean RR Shinbo’s Sequel amirite.

The thing that was the main justification for that trash fire of an ending (ie it was done mainly for money). Only took more than 10 years. Just like those dragons that never showed up.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=csOcHCDmMdE&pp=ygUcc291dGggcGFyayBwaXp6YXMgYXJlIGNvbWluZw%3D%3D South Park ripping on RR Martin. Relevant to the matter on hand as part of the joke.

The original idea was better and could have easily been tacked back in and made the movie much better?

Edited by magnum12 on Aug 9th 2023 at 7:26:44 AM

You are way too sore about that ending.

That ending was good even if we never got a sequel

That ending was bad whether we got a sequel or not.

I'm in the camp of liking Rebellion's ending myself.

The ending basically killed any interest I had in it, further buried by Magia Record.

I'd much rather see a movie for Green Jasper Diviners, Crimson Resolve, Ashen Revolution and Dependence Blue(or the Rome Puella Historia event), or a faithful arc 2 adaptation, then more Rebellion.

Yeah I'm in the camp the prefers magireco over Rebellion.

I liked Rebellion's ending and find Magia Record to be very inconsistent in terms of quality. I hate what MR did to Tart Magica and Oriko Magica.

The Magia Record anime, on the other hand, was a dumpster fire imo (except the Holy Mami fight and the Sayaka fight against Patricia even if the art in it was obviously a completely different art style than any other fight). Distracting Off-Model constantly, Flanderization of Iroha, confusing fight scenes that flat out made no sense in terms of choreography, awful pacing, and a terrible Downer Ending out of nowhere.

Edited by PhiSat on Aug 10th 2023 at 1:27:34 PM

I liked the Rebellion including the ending. But I do think we need another movie to finish the story.

Only watched first season of Magi Reco (I also played a game a bit untill they blocked it for non-JP users). It was not bad but not good enough to watch it all the way.

the thing is the anime (both Rebellion and the MR adaptation) was going a for a tragedy angle, while Magireco (the game) decided to go for something a lot more hopeful even if it had its own issues.

Of course the ending of the MR adaptation being a Shoot the Shaggy Dog style rugpull didn't help matters.

Iirc the Magi Reco anime went for a downer ending because they weren't going to be able to adapt arc 2, and so didn't want to end on the games "everything goes perfect" ending since arc 2 heavily features a bunch of consequences from hiw they did things.

That would make sense. Arc 2 did ended on a more bittersweet note given that four characters went the ultimate Madoka route and two others died besides. However I'd point out that the over-correction is still disproportionate to a degree as it still falls into Doomed by Canon given how Rebellion went

There's a way to make a Downer Ending or even a Bittersweet one. Kazumi Magica is very similar to Magia Record in that it has a secretive team of magical girls trying to cheat the Incubators' energy gathering system in a contained area and help magical girls out that ends badly for them. But Kazumi Magica ends on a bittersweet note with a touch of hope, while Magia Record's anime seems to spit in the face of the original game's hopeful message in what feels like a spiteful way. It makes me wonder why they even bothered if they knew they weren't going to want to faithfully adapt the game. There's plenty of other Puella Magi media that ends in Downer or Bittersweet ways.

Edited by PhiSat on Aug 10th 2023 at 6:12:43 AM

I think they also had to do the Downer Ending because the anime was trying to fit MagiReco more into anime canon.

The game treats their events like a mysterious other timeline where things just happened differently for reasons. Courtesy of the Kamihama girls, Homura wins here, at least in arc 1; They kill Walpurgisnacht without Madoka having to die, which means Homura can stop time-looping, live in a world where she got what she wanted, and never continue on to the events of the original anime.

Killing Walpurgisnacht and letting Madoka live happily ever after is a pretty substantial deviation from the original canon - Made a little extra confusing that it's only made possible by Madokami putting her hand on the scale, because this is a timeline whose events are happening in real-time in which Madoka still exists as an ordinary human despite Madokami also existing and watching it like a movie.

(But it's also NOT the split-Madoka timeline from the end of Rebellion because Homura doesn't have her Devil powers.)

It's not super well-explained what, exactly, the universe of MagiReco IS and how it fits into the PMMM chronology from the first anime and Rebellion. I don't know if Arc 2 went back and pieced it into place more firmly, but Arc 1 basically shrugged and went, "It's a mysterious side timeline that doesn't fit into anything and even Madokami was like, 'WHAAAAA!?'"

And that's fine. For a Gaiden Game, you don't really need to take the continuity super-seriously. It's not really on the same level of canon-ness as a PMMM anime sequel meant to continue the story of the original and Rebellion. It doesn't have the same expectations or constraints.

But when they made an anime out of it, now they're gunning for officially canonizing it into a place that's congruent with the other Puella animes they've made. Now it has to actually fit into canon somewhere. So they took down all of that stuff above and wrote out, "It's one of the Doomed Homura timelines," and left it at that.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Aug 11th 2023 at 7:04:53 AM