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Signed Always Right Since: Dec, 2009
Always Right
#251: Jan 28th 2011 at 11:04:28 PM

So speculations on how her wish would backfire?

My theory...wild mass guesswith his newfound ability to move his hands again, he suddenly becomes a dick and starts using it to hit on other girls and pretend he never knew Sayaka. And for no reason at all, slap her with that hand.wild mass guess

edited 28th Jan '11 11:04:45 PM by Signed

"Every opinion that isn't mine is subjected to Your Mileage May Vary."
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#252: Jan 28th 2011 at 11:08:58 PM

^The main trope page (I'm not sure who put it up) is of the opinion that most of the first half of episode 3 is Mami and Kyubey trying very hard to keep Madoka and Sayaka from making selfless wishes. Another theory I saw is that Mami wished 'not to die alone', so when Madoka promised to join her, she was Literal Genie'd.

Though I can't see how Sayaka's wish could really backfire in a way likely to cause her death... unless Kamijou gets a Witchkiss and kills her somehow.

It's been fun.
Tumbril Since: Feb, 2010
#253: Jan 28th 2011 at 11:09:41 PM

I think it might be something to do with the exact wording of her wish. What's that trope again? Literal Genie or something? Anyway, I'm not really sure. I wish we knew what she said to Kyubey word for word.

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Signed Always Right Since: Dec, 2009
Always Right
#254: Jan 28th 2011 at 11:12:53 PM

Another theory I saw is that Mami wished 'not to die alone', so when Madoka promised to join her, she was Literal Genie'd.

But she DID die alone!...if you ignore Charlotte dying soon afterwards that is, and assume alone means her being the only human that died.

"Every opinion that isn't mine is subjected to Your Mileage May Vary."
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#255: Jan 28th 2011 at 11:21:05 PM

^That's not what the phrase means. Yes, she was the only one who died, but she had people who cared about her at that point.

...Although, it's probably better that she had to stay alive to become a Puella Magi. Otherwise, I can imagine several other ways for a malevolent Literal Genie to fulfill that wish...

Oh hey look, it's a character sheet, by the way.

It's been fun.
Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#256: Jan 28th 2011 at 11:22:32 PM

I'm considering suggesting this to my college animu club.

Anything I or they should know?

Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#257: Jan 28th 2011 at 11:24:27 PM

Or maybe because he's recovered he can be released from the hospital... and gets hit by a bus. [lol] That'd be such a lazy way to backfire the wish, though.

i. hear. a. sound.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#258: Jan 28th 2011 at 11:31:14 PM

^^Make sure you know what you're getting into. It'll be funnier if they don't when you screen it, so you should catch up before you suggest it.

It's been fun.
Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#259: Jan 28th 2011 at 11:32:36 PM

Anything objectionable enough that would get the club in trouble? Since we're a campus club, we have to have...Standards.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#260: Jan 28th 2011 at 11:33:43 PM

I can't see the wish being backfired in a meaningful or obvious way. Certainly not because she worded it badly. That would just be cheap and kind of stupid. I expect better from this show than that. Obviously this isn't going to go as planned for Sayaka, but I hope it's not because the wish itself was bad.

[up]No sex or fanservice if that's what you're asking about.

edited 28th Jan '11 11:34:32 PM by Clarste

Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#261: Jan 28th 2011 at 11:35:51 PM

Just tons of creeping dread and OH DEAR EFFING GOD gore? Terrific! I'll put it on the club request list!

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#262: Jan 28th 2011 at 11:36:23 PM

There's no explicit gore either. Which kinda makes it creepier.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#263: Jan 28th 2011 at 11:53:39 PM

^You see just enough to make it all the worse.

It's been fun.
LORd Too Good For You Since: Aug, 2012
Too Good For You
#264: Jan 29th 2011 at 5:09:06 AM

Man, Literal Genie is so passé and I sure hope that's not what they're going for with this show. It's much more interesting when a wish gets fulfilled exactly how the wisher wanted it and then turns out not to be what the wisher wanted at all. Mami's wish could have been something as simple as "I don't want to die here" without any mustache-twirling villainy from Kyubey.

Please be gentle with me.
garfield15 Since: May, 2010
#265: Jan 29th 2011 at 7:42:22 AM

I don't think they're going for literal genie here. Kyubey is the closest thing to Mephistopheles in this show, so he's going to play the wishes straight. It's the consequences of making the wish that it seems the show will focus on.

Also, I already want more Kyouko time.

MiyaKousaka mya~! from Kibitoukoukou Since: Dec, 1969
mya~!
#266: Jan 29th 2011 at 8:17:51 AM

I still like Mami being brought back by Madoka only to fold and be Driven to Suicide due to the PTSD she suffers from her nightmares about being beheaded and chomped on.

nishishishi~ Nii-nii no baka... .__.
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#267: Jan 29th 2011 at 9:13:17 AM

^For that reason alone, I hope Mami stays dead. That kind of thing would utterly break Madoka, so it might be good for a series end, but...

(Also, I liked Mami. She deserves not to be messed with like that.)

It's been fun.
SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#268: Jan 29th 2011 at 9:13:18 AM

You know, wouldn't it be a nice twist if it would turn out that Kyubey/Kyubei doesn't really have any ulterior motive for granting wishes and ruining lives than making Magical Girls to combat witches?

dellyskoll the world is quiet here from The Great Unknown Since: Jan, 2011
the world is quiet here
#269: Jan 29th 2011 at 9:22:22 AM

I like the Madoka Magica wiki's list of reasons of why Kyubey is evil. One completely random one being that there are ears growing out of his ears. :D

[up]Personally, I think I'd be disappointed. But I guess I'll wait for the bloodshed before I make a full decision.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#270: Jan 29th 2011 at 9:35:04 AM

Hmm... I guess True Neutral Kyubei WOULD be too boring at least compared to possibility of being evil cute animal thing..

Hylarn (Don’t ask) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#271: Jan 29th 2011 at 2:24:16 PM

Apparently the official site describes him as a messenger. So he may not be directly evil, but that doesn't rule out whoever he works for being a badguy

Organics Toast Connoisseur from Hidden in that crate Since: Jan, 2011
Toast Connoisseur
#272: Jan 29th 2011 at 8:59:19 PM

Thank goodness for word of mouth, or I'd never have seen this show. Wonder how many people won't even hear about it until after its run is over, and it gains a second life?

Re: ep4, this is going to end badly, and I'm not going to be able to look away. Kyubey appearing like some half-remembered nightmare in front of Sayaka just as she hits her breaking point was enough to turn my blood to ice. He is an irredeemable monster, and if he ISN'T, then there is no justification for the Herculean effort they've put into telegraphing that he is.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#273: Jan 29th 2011 at 9:06:40 PM

Kyubey appearing like some half-remembered nightmare in front of Sayaka just as she hits her breaking point was enough to turn my blood to ice

Damn, that's a good way to put it, and almost exactly how I felt about that scene. I almost expected him to say 'Are you ready to reconsider...?'

It's been fun.
Signed Always Right Since: Dec, 2009
Always Right
#274: Jan 29th 2011 at 9:08:53 PM

I can't be the only one who isn't getting freaked out about Kyubey or this show  *

...then again, I have a hard to getting scared to begin.  *

So is this show based on any manga? If so, how far ahead is it? I can't wait for the next thursday dammnit...

edited 29th Jan '11 9:09:36 PM by Signed

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RocketScience Not dead yet. from a dark place Since: Jan, 2001
Not dead yet.
#275: Jan 29th 2011 at 9:11:13 PM

Nope, it's an original. Apparently there will be a manga adaptation though, and there's a couple of spinoff manga in the works.


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