Chrono Trigger

I had trouble with the Golem Sisters until I realized they both copied my moves so Double Tech'ing them both was a dumb move as it meant they would both constantly be countering me. Once I realized that and just settled on wrecking them one at a time, it became substantially easier.

Giga Gaia...I remember the name but hell if I can remember when the boss was. Must not have caused me too much trouble.

Remember when you had to climb a mountain and then a huge chain? Giga Gaia was that huge, vaguely humanoid boss.

Unless the memory fails me, Giga Gaia was the boss in the floating continent. He looked like a big humanoid monster with floating arms.

edited 29th Aug '14 6:13:52 PM by Heatth

Oh the boss of the Mountain of Woe? Yeah that wasn't so bad.

I had more trouble with the three things on Death Peak. They kept using some move...Shell Counter Lavos Needle maybe? It hit everyone for half their HP and it had some other nasty moves too. Has low HP - three Iceberg Tosses killed each of them but man, it got pretty close for me on that last fight. Magus and Marle died and Ayla barely survived. Magus ended up eating dirt so I could just get Marle up to finish teh thing off with the final IT.

Heh, the Lavo's Spawns are actually really easy. Your problem is you were attacking their shells. If you just focused on the head, they wouldn't ever use that nasty needle attack. And you only need to destroy the head to win, if I remember correctly.

edited 29th Aug '14 6:30:43 PM by Heatth

You can only kill them by killing the head. I once used Ayla's Bronze Fist to kill the shell and not only was the head still alive, but it could still shoot needles out of its now non-existent shell.

Why would the developers program the shell to disappear and be destroyed, yet let it keep the ability to shoot spikes?

edited 29th Aug '14 6:30:46 PM by doctrainAUM

Because they didn't expect anyone to actually succeed in destroying the shell without killing the "head"? Cause IIRC, it has a pretty high Defense and Magic Defense.

edited 29th Aug '14 6:32:13 PM by Reflextion

I doubt they actually expected it to ever die. Almost all enemies disappear when are destroyed, so that is probably something they made automatic for all enemies. It would be the ones who don't disappear, for whatever reason, they needed to make sure still on place on death.

edited 29th Aug '14 6:32:37 PM by Heatth

When I first played the game, I was struck by how low your damage output was compared to the cap. Other than with a few gimmicky weapons, you're lucky to score more than 1000 damage out of 9999. In Final Fantasy, the cap is usually much easier/possible to reach.

As far as I know Ayla is the only way to even hit the cap, and I've never bothered grinding long enough to do that first hand.

Alya has the Bronze Fist at level 96+ which deals an automatic 9999 damage on critical hits. Robo got a new weapon in the DS remake, the Apocalypse Arm, which works the same way.

I also hear that certain Duel and Triple Techs (such as Frog Flare) can deal 9999 damage if you're leveled up enough.

"Since the Dream Devourer has 32000 HP, which is close to the signed 16-bit integer limit, it is actually possible to defeat it by healing it. By using powerful magic that it absorbs during its second phase, it can be (temporarily) healed past 32767 HP, which overflows the counter and makes its HP go negative."

For some reason I find this hilarious.

Sorry, one reason I chose Trigger DS was for the connections to Cross. I realize I have a good long way to go before I can beat the strongest superboss in the game but I figure I should try it in order to get the aforementioned connections.

edited 29th Aug '14 7:31:04 PM by Nikkolas

I remember the SNES version asking which battle style you wanted too, and I remember Giga Gaia looking a little like Megabyte.

I remember doing Lavos too early and so was spoilered on a lot of the bosses somewhat.

That camping scene and the subsequent time travel to Lucca and her mother was like something out of a very different game. The former was intriguing and meditative and the latter was sincerely horrifying. I grew up knowing the fear of losing my grandmother who was more like my mother and while I guess Lucca's mother didn't die, her being crippled like that while little Lucca couldn't do anything is just....just the worst kind of nightmare.

But yeah, good stuff. Just totally different from everything beforehand.

So i finished all the sidequests. Well except Omen and the DS exclusive stuff. Everyone is at a little under Level 50. Well I haven't finished the Rainbow Shell quest yet but I thought you could take stuff to Melchior and he'd make awesome equipment for you? I thought he made the best equipment in the game or whatever? I figured I'd get the ingredients in one of these quests but apparently not.

Melchior makes things for out of the Rainbow Shell once you finish the Rainbow Shell and trial quests. Take the Sun Stone to him afterwords and he'll make a couple more items as well.

I thought Lavos' Boss Rush only included the ones you have defeated so far? I am pretty sure this is how it works on New Game Plus.

I take you didn't menage to save Lucca's mother, then?

Her name is Lala

I did save her but nobody seems to understand the implications of this. Yes, she's all better now, but none of these time changes effect our heroes To Lucca, her mom has been paralyzed for most of her life. She had to live with watching that happen most her life. Fixing it like we did is just a blip on the radar, a drop in the ocean compared to what she had to endure growing up.

The scar of what really happened will probably never leave her.

Anyway I think I might try to fight Lavos. Tomorrow of course, not now. I'm tired now. But I'll see if I can beat him - er, it. If I can, I'll just save my New Game + in another slot and load up the previous pre-final boss save to do the optional dungeons. I assume New Game+ doesn't come with the Epoch or the ability to do these dungeons straight away.

edited 30th Aug '14 2:39:05 AM by Nikkolas

trigger doesnt exactly have the most consistant of time travel.

remember, marle vanished from existance after a few hours in the past despite her ancestor still being alive at the time in which she vanished, but this kind of issue never comes up again.

Oh I remember that. I was planning on commenting on that very fact when I finish the game and do my own little mini-review.

edited 30th Aug '14 2:47:08 AM by Nikkolas

Marle's situation then is really the only exception. Otherwise the game mostly sticks with "changes caused by time travel don't affect the time travelers."

By the way, if you haven't done it yet, the Black Omen leads directly into a fight with Lavos, so that should probably be done first.

edited 30th Aug '14 2:49:35 AM by KuroBaraHime

well okay.

though obviously the big thing to note is that lucca now returns to a present where her mom is still alive. trauma is still there sure, and the memories without her mother too- but lucca probably came to terms with that before or in the process of saving her mothers life, so theres no real need to emphasize the depressing nature of the situation.

edited 30th Aug '14 2:51:29 AM by Tarsen

Maybe carrying the Gate Key lets you dodge the Ripple Effect.