Pokemon Special/Adventures

For the Wally thing, it really wouldn't have made much sense for him to be the Emerald representation and be sent to the Frontier. I dunno about you, but even if you beat the Elite 4 a couple times with no problem, the Battle Frontier is something else. I only used my main team and I could only get four or five Silver Symbols. Emerald needed to use a wide variety of Pokemon with specific movesets, natures, abilities, and items to conquer the Frontier, all of which he probably studied about beforehand and had access to thanks to Crystal. Wally...only had four Pokemon on hand after the RS arc. Sure, he could catch more, but yeah, I doubt he could take on the Frontier with his established character without Gary Stu-ifying him. Also, it took Emerald literally over half a day to go through 10 sets of 7 battles through any facility. Even if Wally did get healthier, he'd probably faint before he finished any of them.

Finally, the true purpose of sending Emerald to the Frontier was to look for Jirachi to revive the five petrified Dex Holders. Crystal had known Emerald for a long time and trained him herself (as evidenced as Emerald has the same capturing style as her), so she trusted him to go on the mission. She probably wouldn't have trusted Wally to go.

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On the first part, I dunno, Platinum seems to be doing pretty well for herself so far in the Battle Frontier despite only using the Pokemon she travelled with. Granted, Platinum has a different set of facilities and there are only five instead of the seven in Emerald. Alternatively: Have Ruby and Sapphire help when they arrive mid-way into the challenges, either by having them challenge the facilities too, or by doing what Pearl and Diamond did with Platinum and lending their Pokemon to Wally.

For the reason why, I could think of one way: Professor Birch. The guy knows Oak, so Oak may ask him for help in capturing Jirachi. Have Ruby and Sapphire be temporarily preoccupied so Norman could suggest Wally since he did help him with Rayquaza.

Now, the only problem is what would Wally's personal drive be for taking the mission. >>

edited 24th Aug '11 6:45:55 AM by Servbot

I'm hoping to get back into the series, but I'm stuck at the yellow arc. I really don't like Yellow's character, she ticks me off so bad. And some of the points from upcoming arcs put me off a bit as well, like the whole character of Emerald. Not really sure if this series is worth sticking to, but I loved the Red, Blue & Green arc, so could anyone suggest whether I should stick to it based on that?

Again, is there another site where I could read this? Mangareader seems to be missing chapters.

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The problem with Wally is he is not called 'Emerald', I believe. It would be weird for the series to not have a character named after one version. It is probably for that reason that they decided to just change Barry's name.

Yes, you should. Neither Yellow nor Emerald arcs are that long and both are fallowed by arcs I consider amount the best in the series (Gold&Silver/Crystal and Diamond&Peal).

I really don't like Yellow's character, she ticks me off so bad.

I'm not too in love with Yellow's character either but I like her just fine. She's too nice and cute to dislike. Aside from obvious Common Mary Sue Traits, what about her ticks you off so bad?

Not really sure if this series is worth sticking to, but I loved the Red, Blue & Green arc, so could anyone suggest whether I should stick to it based on that?

The Red/Blue/Green arc was my favorite too but the quality of the Yellow (IMO), Gold/Siler/Crystal, and Diamond/Pearl/Platinum stories are great too and worth reading. Heck, there's alot of stuff to like about the Generation 3 stories too, as long as you're willing to overlook the irritating new protagonists.

It is probably for that reason that they decided to just change Barry's name.

Well "Barry" never had a default name in the games like Wally did.

edited 24th Aug '11 8:39:37 AM by ManwiththePlan

Are you sure? Because I remember he being just 'Barry' in the games. I never played Generation IV much, though.

Oh, nevermind. Just tested. You are right. Don't know why I thought it wasn't the case.

edited 24th Aug '11 8:57:59 AM by Heatth

For scanlations, search for jb2448 info and click on the first thing that pops up.

In-story, the Sinnoh Battle Frontier is WAY easier than the Hoenn one. You only need to fight three sets of battles instead of ten to beat a facility. I'm sure Wally would do fine there.

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I found that the arcs got better as the series went on, even if I didn't like the protagonists as much(Looking at you, Ruby n' Emerald). It probably helps that, at worst, I find them to be rather 'meh'. Nothing to hate about them *

, just... everyone else is a better character.

Also, I read the manga at 'manga2u.com', which should have all the chapters up to the latest translated Platinum chapter.

edited 24th Aug '11 4:10:50 PM by TroperRoxas

Okay, I'll try that site. Thanks.

Nope, they have a huge gap from 116 to 373. :/ But I think Mangareader has those, so I'll just have to switch off...

edited 24th Aug '11 4:41:57 PM by YamiiDenryuu

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Try this site. It has a pretty comprehensive and organised listing of the chapters.

The Common Mary Sue Traits are EXACTLY what piss me off. To me, she seems like a Purity Sue, Mary Sue and God-Mode Sue. No offense to anyone who likes her intended, because I know it's subjective and that is just how I see her.

Yellow you mean? Yeah, I can understand that. I like her, but I find you complains plausible. Well, she will lose most of her importance after her arc (as all other protagonist). Even the times she comes back, she is never much in the spotlight again (since she is usually with the R/B/G characters who are obviously more important).

Yellow's powers don't really make her a Sue, as there are quite a number of humans in the Pokemon canon who have powers of their own. (Sabrina, Morty, Riley, Caitlin, etc.) Helps that Lance has the same powers she does. Yellow can't spam them either in battle as they put her at risk. The FRLG arc highlights this as she gets taunted into using her powers frivolously and ends up unconscious on a flying ship ready to crash into its doom.

Personality-wise, she's a nice kid, and her initial dislike of battling bites her in the ass a few times as she makes things harder for herself and gets physically hurt as a result. Though she's gotten better about that, she still kind of sucks at fighting and not counting the Sinnoh Trio ('cause we don't know), she has the weakest team out of all the Dex Holders. After her arc, she ends up just providing support to avoid all problems.

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Well, that's good to hear at least. I definitely prefer it to the anime, but I find the changes it makes to the game's plot jarring at times. I know the games don't have much in the way of plot, and a straight adaption would be bland, but some changes feel cringe worthy. Can't really give a good example of what I'm talking about, though.

Still think Yellow's powers are Sue-ish, it doesn't matter if they have drawbacks when MOST characters don't have special powers in the first place. And doesn't matter that she sucks at fighting if she can just hax her Pokemon's levels up (that was the biggest Wallbanger for me).

edited 24th Aug '11 10:54:05 PM by Saiga

But only Yellow is a main character.

Well, Pokémon Special is more truthful to the games plots then the anime. Sure, they change things, but they make the main arc plot the main plot of the game, which is something the anime doesn't much. The exceptions are the 'extra' arcs, like Yellow arc, which are mostly invented.

By 'main plot' of the games I mean the story that doesn't involve the Pokémon League, btw. Since the League is a constant in all games, the manga take it out of most of the latter arcs for the sake of variety.

edited 24th Aug '11 11:05:09 PM by Heatth

Yeah most people don't have powers...but that's kind of how it is in the games too. There do exist a few people with their own independent abilities.

So what if Yellow's the only main characters with explicit powers? The other main characters have abilities of their own that make them uniquely awesome and dangerous.

edited 24th Aug '11 11:16:00 PM by TheViolentTomboy

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It makes Yellow feels 'Sueish'.

Look, I don't agree with it myself. I like Yellow. But saying that there is other people with powers doesn't mean much when Yellow is the only main character with power. She is special amount the main characters (just like Emerald, now I think on it). This doesn't need to be a bad thing, but is still true.

In the games, the few people with special abilities are few and far between, and it really is only flavor to the character. The powers don't really *do* anything. Yellow's got instant healing and instant leveling powers (temporary, but still). The fact that she can alter levels makes her pretty much the epitome of the trope Hard Work Hardly Works. The other characters have unique things about them, sure, but they aren't quite as magical.

Part of it probably stems from the fact that she doesn't have an in game counter part, even Blue was based off the female trainer that was planned for Red and Green. So I suppose I treat her the same way I would treat an OC in a fanfic. I'm guessing I'm going to dislike Emerald a lot as well when I get there.

So when Grey/Gray/whatever comes out you think they'll make a new character for that, too? I'm kinda hoping they'll give N the spot for some reason (it's not like we know his real name, anyway), but that's unlikely...

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Hey, they did it with Platinum/Hikari. It really depends on how the plot of Grey/Gray differs from Black & White.

I don't think there will be a Pokemon GreyI don't want there to be a Pokemon gray. Something about N after the plot would be interesting admittedly. They could send him Orre for Cypher take over #3.

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I think there was an interview where Gamefreak said they wouldn't do a Grey version. Which makes me wonder is N's new home, Ghetsis' new plan w/ the orbs that the Shadow Triad gave you, Cynthia's "idea", etc. all being saved for Generation 6?

edited 12th Nov '11 9:28:06 PM by ManwiththePlan

The last two third gen games really didn't differ from their first paired ones. It was probably pretty easy for Kusaka to figure out where the story would go (have both Kyogre and Groudon destroy Hoenn, have Cyrus summon both Dialga and Palkia). Now, there's so many plots that could be thrown around the inevitable third release, and we're not sure whether or not there's going to be an RS remake.

I think the BW arc is currently going along at a fine pace (despite the fact it is confusing with three different magazines and all), but I'm just worried that the third game might totally throw the on-going story out of whack.

Oh well. I believe in the author making things work and he hasn't let me down yet. Thank god for volume revisions. What would we do without those?

Can't wait for the next issue of Grade 4. What the heck is N going to do after forcibly dragging White into a Ferris Wheel car? And why the hell does he have a Servine?

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They're deliberatly playing up the Fo Yay with N, aren't they?