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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#4251: Apr 17th 2014 at 11:03:18 AM

[up] Well yeah, that too. The whole fitting inside the morphball thing isn't, though.

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Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#4252: Apr 17th 2014 at 11:04:48 AM

It'd be cool if the fact that she could dissolve into a cloud of energy inside of her armor would enable it to take other inhuman forms.

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#4253: Apr 17th 2014 at 12:08:49 PM

And that she's somehow able to tell where she's going while rolled up.

IndirectActiveTransport Since: Nov, 2010
#4254: Apr 17th 2014 at 12:30:15 PM

In manga zebes apparently wasn't that dangerous before Mother Brain went crazy
Yeah, that bit of Manga is directly contradicted by Metroid: Zero Mission itself, where the wild life Mother Brain was supposedly controlling is just doing its own thing, attacking maybe when Samus got close but leaving her alone otherwise. (the problem is the cramped environment forces things together)

But even then, Samus uses the wild life to kill the space pirates in manga, explaining Zebes has the most fearsome predators in the galaxy-and the Chozo are practically defenseless against some butterflies with baster rifles before Samus saves them. So the arguments that the manga made a good case for their lack of defenses or downplayed Zebes's threat level does not really hold up.

edited 17th Apr '14 12:30:26 PM by IndirectActiveTransport

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#4255: Apr 17th 2014 at 12:34:43 PM

Yeah, but didn't Samus just disarm them and the MB killed them? I mean, the chozo would have been fine, the MB was just being slow. Or on purpose being slow, I dunno if she had yet went crazy at that point.

Either way, chozo are mostly old men at that point, even if they are old warriors and have spare non used power suit and gun stick somewhere, I doubt they would be that effective <_< At least I don't remember Gray Voice being much of use agaisnt MB.

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#4256: Apr 17th 2014 at 12:37:46 PM

I'm thinking that the Metroid manga should not have covered the bits that were in the game. For multiple reasons.

Plus think how striking an ending it would be for the final panel to be Samus standing in the first screen of the game.

edited 17th Apr '14 12:38:19 PM by Bocaj

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#4257: Apr 17th 2014 at 12:39:58 PM

...Okay, figured out why the heck MB took that long time to help: The drones that burned those butterflies were these ones. Crappiest. Defense. Ever. I mean, even her floating eye ball camera has to be faster than those :P

@Tucker: BTW, since I went to check what the hell MB used to kill moth things, I noticed this at same time. Related to "Why the hell Chozo trained Samus?" question.(Though I still point out that they aren't so pacifistic that they would be above using others to help them in that way, otherwise they wouldn't have slow ass worker drones with flamethrowers

edited 17th Apr '14 12:54:01 PM by SpookyMask

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#4258: Apr 17th 2014 at 12:43:19 PM

That sure is a licensed not available page.

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#4259: Apr 17th 2014 at 12:46:34 PM

Huh? Both links work for me .-.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#4260: Apr 17th 2014 at 12:48:22 PM

Mangafox is going through some troubles in America at least. Not that we'd know that of course, since we'd never disobey the site's rules and link to an illegal scanlation site.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#4261: Apr 17th 2014 at 12:52:52 PM

Oops, thats illegal? Gotta remove the link then...

...Actually, yeah, its annoying if that is indeed illegal since its Japanese only manga :P Its hard to keep track of these things...

edited 17th Apr '14 12:55:59 PM by SpookyMask

Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#4262: Apr 17th 2014 at 1:11:04 PM

So I'm actually not up on the origin of Mother Brain. This discussion is making it sound like she's some kind of... squishy Skynet?

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#4263: Apr 17th 2014 at 1:15:40 PM

Sort of, I think. She's the central unit of a planet (or at least secret base)-wide security system and effective leader.

The Aurora Units from Prime 3 are a relatively less rebellious variant.

On the subject of Chozo stuff, how is it that a Chozo Statue got X infected in Fusion? Or was the X only in the plants tangled up in that statue?

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#4264: Apr 17th 2014 at 1:16:25 PM

Dunno, I thought Chozo Statues were sort of semi organic machines anyway

Oh really when?
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#4265: Apr 17th 2014 at 1:25:38 PM

If the power suit is something like average for Chozo, then I guess even their statues have organic components. Its not too crazy considering the BOX robit.

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#4266: Apr 17th 2014 at 1:43:52 PM

Man, technology in Metroid in general is weird... Actually whole world is weird... They have organic computers, organic cpu in robots, space ghosts that feed on ships' electricity, bird armadillo people, moving statues, flying squids, flying blobs, dragons, whatever the hell Kraid's stomach barbs are, statues that magically crumble when you kill all the bosses...

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#4268: Apr 17th 2014 at 2:31:37 PM

Where DID those boss statues come from? Did the pirates build them out of vanity? Did the Chozo, as some kind of doomsday prophecy? Do the pirates have some kind of id card access that lets them bypass the statues or are they not on the main entrance?

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#4269: Apr 17th 2014 at 2:52:33 PM

"I have to say I have objections to a front door that requires me to be dead to access."
"Nobody cares, Kraid."

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#4270: Apr 17th 2014 at 2:57:39 PM

Maybe they're doors that open based on some biological characteristic of the commander in question, such as scanning their blood, which Samus has splattered all over her after their boss battle. Though we do see that the suit is able to fake a Space Pirate handprint in Corruption, so perhaps it's something along those lines.

edited 17th Apr '14 2:58:00 PM by Null

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#4271: Apr 17th 2014 at 2:59:43 PM

You'd really think the doors would lock or something if Kraid was dead.

Like something just took out the biggest dude on the whole damn planet, better open the fucking door to let that something in.

Oh really when?
Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#4272: Apr 17th 2014 at 3:20:50 PM

Maybe Mother Brain really hated Kraid and wanted to thank Samus personally. Heck, we should come up with reasons why Mother Brain hates all 4 of them.

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IndirectActiveTransport Since: Nov, 2010
#4273: Apr 17th 2014 at 4:20:42 PM

Gray Voice was on his way to beating Mother Brain before Ridley took him out...but I digress. The point is, the game wildlife is clearly not under Mother Brain's control as was shown in the manga and still managed to be pretty dangerous.

The original game's manga said Mother Brain was the leader of he space pirates, while Super Metroid's said she was responsible for controlling their fortress on Zebes while Ridley was the general of the organization. The manga said Mother Brain took over the space pirates for her own purposes but the Zero Mission manual went back to saying she was responisble for the base on Zebes while Ridley was the organization's general then Other M said she was the "true leader".

Did I mention Metroid always had Plot Holes?

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#4274: Apr 17th 2014 at 5:11:43 PM

Clearly, whatever is powerful enough to defeat all four bosses is impressive enough for Mother Brain to want to begrudgingly congratulate in person.

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#4275: Apr 17th 2014 at 5:13:49 PM

Mayhap the lock was powered by their life forces.

Personally, I'd have powered the locking mechanism with a generator, and kept the generator behind the locked door, but I'm not capable of fathoming the full extent of Mother Brain's genius, I guess.

Speaking of locked doors, BSL's security system is kind of bonkers. I can see the wisdom in keeping the red-level security release behind a red door, but there's nothing else back there. How was anyone but Samus supposed to navigate the place?

edited 17th Apr '14 5:15:10 PM by Enlong

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