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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#351: Nov 2nd 2011 at 7:32:24 AM

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/working-conditions

An episode on Working Conditions.

edited 2nd Nov '11 7:33:40 AM by Demongodofchaos2

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#352: Nov 2nd 2011 at 10:05:06 AM

Well...that was depressing.

Jimmmyman10 cannot into space from polan Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#353: Nov 2nd 2011 at 1:00:23 PM

But necessary. This issue needs to be addressed.

Go play Kentucky Route Zero. Now.
Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#354: Nov 2nd 2011 at 3:50:44 PM

Oh I am well aware of the issue.

Still doesn't make it suck any less.

The head of Team Bondie is a bastard. And he'll get no punishment for his deeds.

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#355: Nov 3rd 2011 at 12:26:38 AM

Does anyone here ever e-mail them?

I have once and just have again. Last time they actually answered me!

PippingFool Eclipse the Moon from A Floridian Prison Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#356: Nov 3rd 2011 at 3:38:08 AM

This is a real eye opening episode.

I never knew the Game Industry could be so... brutal.

Thankfully, that is changing. Still depressing though.

(Is a little irked at the prnounciation of Bondi (It's pronounced "Bond-eye" or "Bond-die"). But he's not Australian so I can give him lee-way for that)

edited 3rd Nov '11 3:39:12 AM by PippingFool

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Evellex from Canberra Since: Oct, 2010
#357: Nov 3rd 2011 at 5:50:15 AM

Bah, this is nothing. I was helping some friends in a 48 hour game competition and there were people in the office that were there for the same hours just working on normal projects. 16 hour coding days seem to be the normal, and that's just to get some course work done.

ShadowScythe from Australia Since: Dec, 2009
#358: Nov 3rd 2011 at 6:54:38 PM

I emailed them once ages back about DRM and what they think about it. Got back a pretty reasonable and interesting response a while later.

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#359: Nov 4th 2011 at 1:56:41 AM

I e-mailed them on the idea of giving a singular man total creative and technical control of a game's development, like a director in the movie industry.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#360: Nov 4th 2011 at 4:21:41 AM

[up][up] What did they say If you don't mind me asking?

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ShadowScythe from Australia Since: Dec, 2009
#361: Nov 4th 2011 at 3:54:10 PM

^ My email (I sent this about a month or two after AC 2 and I was still really butthurt)

Hi Daniel Floyd and everyone at Extra Credits,

I'm a huge fan of your segment and look forward to it every friday (Australian time for me). It's really interesting what you guys have to say and the alternatives you propose.

I was rewatching Project ten dollar and was wondering what your opinion of DRM was. As a PC gamer I felt really screwed over by Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed II DRM earlier this year, and I was only able to get my copy of Mass Effect working only recently by switching to a new laptop because of some General Protection Fault that kept occurring that I think was due to drm.

So far the only Drm I like Steam, and that's cause of all the deals and the fact that while having copy protection it also has a lot to offer you as well, like a shop that bypasses the overpriced nature of retail while still rewarding the devs. But even Steam has issues, half life 2 messed up on me a lot forcing me to redownload sections frequently, and I hated it whenever i couldn't play the game cause it had to update and I was capped at the time.

So what's your opinion, and possibly your solution?

Thanks

James' reply:

Sorry for the late reply, I've been out of the country and just haven't been able to keep up with my portion of the inbox...

Great question! Steam's got the solution...and it's simple, cloud based DRM. All the problems you raised with localized DRM are terrible, but doing a simple internet check allows you to avoid most of that. There are still issues as you mentioned, but I think the next step is for all the major publishers to get there (and simply not to worry about the shrinking percentage of P Cs that can run high performance games but aren't connected to the internet).

Best! James Portnow

ABNDT Since: Mar, 2011
#362: Nov 9th 2011 at 1:53:24 PM

Looks like this week's a rerun: Uncanny Valley.

Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#363: Nov 10th 2011 at 9:45:41 AM

Bah, another subject I know about and wont learn anything new from.

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#364: Nov 10th 2011 at 9:49:20 AM

Was there any reason given why they were too busy to put up a new video?

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mrsaturn Youkai Serious Since: Jan, 2001
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#365: Nov 10th 2011 at 10:27:29 PM

I liked this episode, it the self-depreciation joke used the cartoon framing device well.

They assed first. I am only retaliating in an ass way. -The Dead Man's Life
MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#366: Nov 12th 2011 at 10:50:03 AM

I probably would've liked it more if it wasn't 100% exactly the same as they did it before right down to the jokes. If there was any new detail or info at all I would've been fine with it.

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#368: Nov 16th 2011 at 8:47:32 AM

This one is going to be interesting, especially since Reamde hit the streets a while ago. Personally, I think that middlemen are going to make a killing here, with zerg rushers too busy rushing zurgs to look a decent price, and people willing to pay with items that they assign exorbitant value too, the blue gauntlet as opposed to the gold one with similar stats. Buy Low, Sell High and all that jazz.

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#369: Nov 17th 2011 at 12:10:23 AM

Kinda bummed he didn't mention the likely possibility that due to extremely dedicated players / farmers, the economy will be biased or even controlled by them and the regular guy wanting to sell his item will get the shaft.

Kerrah Since: Jan, 2001
#370: Nov 17th 2011 at 12:14:44 AM

Also, all worthy items will have to be exceptionally rare in order to keep prices from plummetting.

feotakahari Fuzzy Orange Doomsayer from Looking out at the city Since: Sep, 2009
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#371: Nov 17th 2011 at 2:48:22 AM

I can't help but think that the fact that players put up with Forced Level-Grinding indicates a massive artistic breakdown somewhere along the line. The idea of grindy games being incentivized, by allowing for more sales of items to reduce the amount of grinding necessary . . . It's not pretty.

edited 17th Nov '11 2:49:49 AM by feotakahari

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Thorn14 Gunpla is amazing! Since: Aug, 2010
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#372: Nov 17th 2011 at 4:03:00 PM

People waste their lives trying to get the most FAKE money.

This will make it even worse. Honestly I hate this idea with every fiber of my being.

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#373: Nov 17th 2011 at 7:29:57 PM

[up] Some times technology marches on.

Just accept the fact that this is likely to happen, or better yet, Don't play Diablo 3 in the first place if you don't want to.

Remember, while pleasing fans is good, the first Priority for any company is the MONEY. Simple fact, and will likely never change.

edited 17th Nov '11 7:30:32 PM by Demongodofchaos2

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ShadowScythe from Australia Since: Dec, 2009
#374: Nov 18th 2011 at 3:30:14 AM

I personally hate this whole thing. Instead of seeing the Gold farming as a disgusting side effect of the grindy games they've created, Blizzard is annoyed that they aren't getting a cut from this and have set up a system that allows them to profit off it.

Ugh...

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines

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