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Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#12251: Oct 24th 2012 at 8:06:49 PM

Patches are mainly used to fix characters OR glitches.

Items/Stages are rarely patched unless they have issues.

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HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
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#12252: Oct 24th 2012 at 8:11:00 PM

Nintendo has only ever used mandated patches to fix actual glitches or screw-ups, and even then, only in the circumstance that the game is actually unplayable. So I kinda doubt we'll see balancing patches and what not, unless a huge part of the community absolutely demands it.

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Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#12253: Oct 24th 2012 at 8:17:47 PM

Except this is whether Sakurai wants to do patches or not. Not Nintendo.

The Wii U and 3DS always could do patches. It's up to the game designers to setup their games for it. It's not a Nintendo thing here.

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#12254: Oct 24th 2012 at 8:22:56 PM

The Wii can do patches, too. Other M got patched because of a door glitch.

Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#12255: Oct 24th 2012 at 8:27:59 PM

I was talking about the games planned to be out, but that too.

It only works for the Wii if it's planned beforehand. Unlike with most systems, they can't suddenly decide to add a "patch" as is. It has to be ready to work from the start, sadly. Or was that general DLC? I forget which one.

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#12256: Oct 24th 2012 at 8:29:06 PM

It was a patch.

And it can just be put in a system update, no?

Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#12257: Oct 24th 2012 at 8:34:50 PM

And piss off everyone again? Nobody liked the system updates, especially when they glitched up the Wii itself.

No, make it a real patch like it should be. Nintendo won't be doing this because the patch is for the game, not the system.

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#12258: Oct 24th 2012 at 8:36:17 PM

...What? What system updates glitched the system? -has had a Wii since 2007, and has never had trouble-

Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#12259: Oct 24th 2012 at 8:50:58 PM

One of them entirely screwed up the clock, in another lame attempt to remove the hacking stuff.

If you never did any hacks, it wouldn't have been downloaded.

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Ukokira Since: May, 2012
#12260: Oct 25th 2012 at 5:57:47 AM

On update actually made my old wii play only gamecube games. Had to get a whole new one again.

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#12261: Oct 25th 2012 at 1:25:42 PM

I've never had any problems with Wii System Screw-Ups(TM) as a result of an update, and I haven't heard any mass outcry about that kind of thing (the hacking community aside), so it's my estimation that you're talking anecdotally. Besides, if you do use hacks on your Wii, it's not Nintendo's fault if things get screwed up.

I wonder if they'll be willing to make official DLC balance patches for the upcoming Super Smash Bros. games.

edited 25th Oct '12 1:26:38 PM by 0dd1

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Ukokira Since: May, 2012
#12262: Oct 25th 2012 at 1:39:13 PM

The update that ruined my old Wii came out around NSMB wii

edited 25th Oct '12 1:39:26 PM by Ukokira

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#12263: Oct 25th 2012 at 1:41:25 PM

  • shrug* Like I said, nothing like that happened with me, and I haven't seen any mass outcry about that. I'm sorry it screwed up your Wii, but it's an isolated incident, not an epidemic.

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Ukokira Since: May, 2012
#12264: Oct 25th 2012 at 2:01:24 PM

It was actually when I had to use the new games to update the wii.NSMB wii had a update whit it finished it restarted then it did a second update. then... NOOOOO!

edited 26th Oct '12 6:37:13 AM by Ukokira

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#12265: Oct 25th 2012 at 2:03:19 PM

[up]I can't parse what you're saying at all.

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#12266: Oct 25th 2012 at 2:35:55 PM

One of his games gave him a bad update.

Some have had them.

And Sakurai has talked about DLC(free) as an option. Considering fan demand, I don't see a reason why not, but only to add later stuff as it gets demanded.(missing things, like a lot cut from Brawl from Melee, including Bonus Mode, Race to the Finish, Snag the Trophies, etc.) Or just characters.

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#12267: Oct 25th 2012 at 2:49:57 PM

I'd think it would be nice to have balance patches every year or so. As long as they aren't too frequent I don't see a problem with it.

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#12268: Oct 25th 2012 at 3:35:47 PM

DLC characters are practically a must-have. It will continuously generate interest in the game long after release, and, as far as I know, the engine is very simple to program for since all characters have mostly the same inputs, so it's practical for them to keep making new characters.

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#12269: Oct 25th 2012 at 4:48:51 PM

So long as they're free and weren't made before the game launched purely for the sake of DLC, I wouldn't care that much. Then again, I know that quite a lot of people prefer to invest their time in a single character, and if their best character is DLC, then that's not so good for them.

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#12270: Oct 25th 2012 at 4:54:11 PM

[up]Er, I doubt it would be free, but it definitely wouldn't be a case of Capcom shenanigans, at least.

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#12271: Oct 25th 2012 at 4:57:38 PM

If Harada is part of the team, it will be free. The DLC characters in Tekken Tag Tournament 2 are free because it's his personal philosophy that characters are intrinsic to the fighting game experience, and you shouldn't charge people extra for them.

Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#12272: Oct 25th 2012 at 5:17:21 PM

Nintendo has so far stated that any games with DLC are planned to be free.

Sakurai would most likely follow that.

Them not being free is a small chance. DLC isn't expecting, but it's most likely to be free, so no worries.

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BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive Since: May, 2010
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#12273: Oct 25th 2012 at 5:19:28 PM

Um...that's not true either, unless they're specifically talking about Wii U. New Super Mario Bros 2 and Fire Emblem: Awakening both have paid DLC.

Hydronix I'm an Irene! from TV Tropes Since: Apr, 2010
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#12274: Oct 25th 2012 at 5:29:37 PM

I meant the Wii U, yes.

There are no plans for paid DLC on it.

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0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#12275: Oct 25th 2012 at 7:48:39 PM

[up][up]I think she means additional content for games, not actual games themselves. EDIT: Misread, sorry, disregard.

edited 25th Oct '12 7:49:20 PM by 0dd1

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