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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#73776: Apr 27th 2015 at 5:02:07 AM

The Swarm Stalfos, just like their standard counterparts in Smash Run, are best dealt with via throws, yes.

Swarm Plasma Wisps should also be dealt with ASAP, as an aside- A full shot from one them is almost always a KO, especially near Master Fortress' stomach acids.

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powerpuffbats Goddess of Nature Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Goddess of Nature
#73777: Apr 27th 2015 at 5:53:54 AM

I have only ever fought Master Core...but I cannot beat it for the life of me.

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#73778: Apr 27th 2015 at 6:25:23 AM

So how is Mewtwo nowadays anyway?

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#73779: Apr 27th 2015 at 7:32:35 AM

I am so buying Mewtwo tomorrow.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#73780: Apr 27th 2015 at 7:38:50 AM

[up][up]Pretty cool, actually! His old weakness of being both a larger target and lightweight is still a factor, but his attack power and especially his launch power are so high that it feels fair now.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#73781: Apr 27th 2015 at 7:41:11 AM

Plus he can stun someone long enough to fully charge an up smash right in their face. So he has some pretty good KO power.

It's actually pretty hilarious.

Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#73782: Apr 27th 2015 at 7:43:40 AM

His F-tilt is way slower than in Melee though. It really throws me off when I use it.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#73783: Apr 27th 2015 at 7:52:50 AM

Mewchu is also ridiculously good at edgeguarding, I think. I was just messing around with a bunch of mid-level CPUs and it was kind of hilarious how I completely wrecked Ike twice within like ten seconds by poking him off the edge and following up with two forward-aerials.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#73784: Apr 27th 2015 at 7:56:10 AM

Its Forward and Down Air attacks and its Down Smash give it a lot of edge guarding power.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#73785: Apr 27th 2015 at 7:56:14 AM

Yeah, the F-aerial is really good.

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Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
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#73786: Apr 27th 2015 at 8:08:37 AM

Master Fortress looks pretty damn daunting at first, but beat it a few times and it becomes the easiest part of the boss.

Heck, I'm starting to nickname the "stage looks hard but really isn't" effect the "Master Fortress Phenomena" now.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#73788: Apr 27th 2015 at 8:13:27 AM

[up][up]A fair chunk of the difficulty with Master Fortress comes down to two factors- How good your fighter is at throwing, and how maneuverable they are in midair.

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Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
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#73789: Apr 27th 2015 at 8:13:35 AM

That would be a Breather Level. And while Master Fortress is easier than it looks, it isn't something everyone aces when seeing it for the very first time.

[up]I never even tried throwing the stalfos guys. I just ran past them.

edited 27th Apr '15 8:14:20 AM by Kuroxeng

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#73790: Apr 27th 2015 at 8:17:02 AM

In my experience, that has mostly lead to quick losses as they rush my back.

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Hungryguy I am a Rad Reptile. from inside a cheese wheel Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
I am a Rad Reptile.
#73791: Apr 27th 2015 at 8:17:49 AM

[up][up][up] Also, how easily you can keep you character from wall jumping straight into a Danger Zone. Stupid Little Mac...

edited 27th Apr '15 8:18:05 AM by Hungryguy

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#73792: Apr 27th 2015 at 8:39:40 AM

Alright, Monster Hunter 4 is doing network updates tonight right around my usual playtime, so i can at last get on the Mewtwo train.

Do we have a list of other update changes yet?

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#73793: Apr 27th 2015 at 8:50:13 AM

Villager's not fun, either- They've got power, but both their Forward Smash and Timber are too slow by Hard All-Star's standards.

See, I was having trouble with Villager, but then I found a very easy way to win.

You gotta do what Killager would do; plant a tree and let it grow, then ignore it in favor of swinging the axe at your opponents. tongue

Requires a little more setup than just spamming smash attacks, and you have to renew the tree, but it's pretty fast and reliable for getting KO's in All-Star Mode.

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Keybreak Since: Apr, 2010
#73794: Apr 27th 2015 at 8:52:15 AM

I actually used the tree more. Didn't think to use the axe.

Was okay though, still got it.

Kuroxeng Moved accounts because meh from error 040 Since: Mar, 2015
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#73795: Apr 27th 2015 at 8:59:39 AM

The rare times I use Killager, it is the best when I hit my opponent with both the tree and axe in one swing.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#73796: Apr 27th 2015 at 9:27:16 AM

The tree actually makes a good shield to camp behind, too. It'll protect you from those deadly kill-projectiles, and once an enemy is stupid enough to run past or jump over the tree, you chop them up with the axe.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#73797: Apr 27th 2015 at 9:41:57 AM

Whoa, reading Smash Boards it seems like Kirby benefited most of anyone from the 1.0.6 patch.

FullMoon feeling blue from Surface Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#73798: Apr 27th 2015 at 9:58:06 AM

I find it really weird that Greninja's standing grab is awful but his dash grab is one of the best in the game.

When I play Master Fortress I just rush past the Stalfos, it tends to work most of the time.

Greninja's jump height becomes an issue sometimes though...

TroPartner Since: Nov, 2014
#73799: Apr 27th 2015 at 9:59:33 AM

Leffen's brutal honesty.

This video actually somewhat relates to me. As someone who is interested in the competitive scene, I still have to be real with myself and say that I am just a stupid scrub that still has miles more to go before getting really good.

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#73800: Apr 27th 2015 at 10:20:03 AM

Pretty much, once you know all the traps in Master Fortress, it's an easy win. It's all the RNG and Gang Up on the Human BS and Master Core (especially Master Edges) you have to deal with to complete that one challenge.

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