"Heartfelt Fancy" is great music. I never realized how the original used a synth choir, and now I desperately want WAVE to do something with it... (checks YouTube for one) Phooey.
Plenty of remixes, with a fair amount of loud metal or pounding trance that misses the tone of the song. There's "Ascolta la Verita," a straightforward orchestral cover. TAM's taken at least three cracks at the song, including a lengthy, slow piano piece and a collaboration project blending his strings with the beat and electronica of KEIGO KANZAKI. =Neutral='s remix is typical of the band in that I have a hard time describing it; all I can say is that I like the native instruments. SATORI in Nightmare is also weird, featuring strong strings with almost a woodsy industrial vibe in places.
A thought just occurred (five hours ago, in the car) - animals get along well with Satori and satori because/in spite of the Third Eye thing. But Orin and Utsuho aren't proper animals anymore, are they? They're youkai, but they still don't mind Satori.
So: does this mean that animal-based youkai like Wriggle, Shou, Chen, Ran, etc. would feel the same way, or at least be free of initial prejudice against mind-readers? Or is this due to how Satori's pets-turned-youkai grew up loving her and for that reason are able to tolerate her Third Eye'ing after gaining sentience?
Makes sense - if shutting the Third Eye was easy, Koishi wouldn't be much of a big deal. Not so much a case of Power Incontinence as it is the thing not having an off switch that doesn't involve drastic action. Satori needs something like Daredevil's sensory deprivation coffin-bed, just kitted for mind rays.
I like the idea of Satori being able to "see" purely by the "light" of nearby sentience. It's not like you'd need to see a lot to get by in the underground oh nutbunnies now I'm imagining a blind cave salamander youkai. Or rather, trying desperately not to.
Realization - Satori is used to seeing people with three eyes at once, taking in both what light reveals and what their minds reveal. So when she looks at Koishi, it's probably pretty disturbing, like a person forever cast partially in shadow, or semi-translucent.
Now I'm depressed, but no longer fixated on blind cave salamanders.
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edited 23rd May '11 10:22:46 PM by Tacitus
Current earworm: "A New Journey"Someone mentioned that Heartfelt Fancy is pretty much the saddest Touhou song. It might be, but I'm currently getting misty-eyed at Lullaby of a Deserted Hell. Fancy that, huh.
I liked the part about her waiting. Waiting is a horrible thing, isn't it?
Just to spite you, I will give you an exceedingly fancy handshake.
OBSERVE
*shakes*
*three massive explosions occur in the background, causing the place to be scattered with cyborg sharks carrying roses in their mouths*
Now I'm depressed, but no longer fixated on blind cave salamanders.
I mean, the good cause of conveying a fascinating image to me and others. Though beating blind cave salamanders is cool, too.
I was the one who talked about Heartfelt Fancy's sadness. Add Lullaby of a Deserted Hell and Green-Eyed Jealousy, and you've got a good argument for Subterranean Animism for having perhaps the gloomiest soundtrack.
Song of the SirensOf the Windows games, maybe, but nothing can usurp the soundtrack from Highly Responsive to Prayers as the gloomiest of the games at large.
edited 24th May '11 2:32:44 AM by SuperDimensionman
More like BEST SOUNDTRACK EVER right
... Also brb lamenting the fact that Satori really isn't suited for being in a fighting game.
And Koishi only marginally more so.
Or Kyouko ._.
Satori might be useable in a fighting game, but I think she'd be someone who mainly uses blocks and counters to do damage. That or Third Eye Lasers. Which would be awesome.
edited 24th May '11 4:45:51 AM by asterism
Song of the SirensReisen's got a monopoly on eye lasers. I don't think Satori is very suited for a fighting game, myself.
She'd be a bonus boss.
The game would track which spellcards gave you the most trouble, and then Satori will tear them from your mind and use them with Phantasm-level difficulty
you'll then have a grave in the clouds where you won't lie too crampedThe problem with having her copy others is animations.
The game would track which spellcards gave you the most trouble, and then Satori will tear them from your mind and use them with Phantasm-level difficulty
That would be clever if it worked, but it wouldn't. After the first time, or after they read a spoiler, what people would actually do is deliberately fail cards which use mechanics that they're good at to make sure that those show up instead of the ones they're legitimately bad at.
edited 24th May '11 4:58:39 AM by SuperDimensionman
Then just have her pull out Pandemonium, Scarlet Weather Rhapsody, Goliath Doll, and Battle Above Gensokyo. Add Catfish to taste.
Song of the SirensWell, if Tasogare could make Reisen work in a fighter,... Maybe Satori could compile variations on other characters' skill and spell cards in general, with original basic attacks.
I sure said that!How was making Reisen work supposed to be difficult? Reisen has a very memorable style of danmaku and accompanying gimmick. Satori copies other people.
If they did give her a random mish-mash of other characters' move I'd have to say that she wouldn't be very interesting.
At least at the time, I thought that Reisen could only affect lunacy and such. Face it, the eye beams came later. They WORK, and I love them, but they were a brand new power for here. As for Satori... I was thinking more along the lines of playing Ken to the original attacks' Ryu, similar but different.
I sure said that!Have you somehow missed all the bullets she shoots at you? And the phasing? Have you ever played IN?
EVERYONE shoots bullets everywhere. It's Touhou. And while they acted oddly, so have many other bullets in the series, in different ways. The phazing was cool, but my point still stands that several of Reisen's skill and spell cards are completely original in concept to SWR.
I sure said that!The only songs from Highly Responsive to Prayers's soundtrack I've heard are Sariel's themes (Now, Until the Moment You Die and Death Will Take You With Me). Admittedly, they are very, very awesome, and quite dark.
Song of the SirensReisen's a Windows Stage 5 boss. She's practically obligated by law to use weird danmaku, be it time stopping, bullet slowing, or curved lasers.
Song of the SirensThe only way that Satori would work in a fighter is like that one Soul Caliber boss who copies different characters stances and moves. But like Clarste said, she would have to have a ridiculous amount of animations. Probably too many for a doujin game maker to bother with.
The other alternative is to ramp up The Computer Is a Cheating Bastard to SNK final boss levels where the computer predicts and counters everything you do. But that would only work for when she's AI. She wouldn't be anything special as a playable character.
Plus, out of the underground, I'd rather see Yuugi, Orin annnnnnnnnd Yamame in a fighter. Satori is cool but not for a fighter.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThey could... cheat! Whenever she uses a copied spellcard, she summons a translucent image of the character using it. Voila.
Wellllll, in the context of the game, your character is undergoing terrifying hypnosis. I guess that could work.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI've always thought that if Satori was in a fighting game, she'd be the Random option, basically a reskin of other characters that changes fighting styles at the beginning of each round yet keeps her own unique spellcards.
6*Though you are right that most of her SWR attacks are original to that game, her ability to manipulate any and all types of waves, plus being Eirin's apprentice gives you a huge potential repertoire to make moves from.
EDIT:Good gods, how many posts did I get ninja'd by in the 20 minutes it took me to write this?
edited 24th May '11 7:31:46 AM by hassanico
Nice. I didn't mean to make such a big deal out of this, but seeing this idea makes me smile.
Yes, but iirc, she was not stated to be able to manipulate ALL forms of waves until SWR. Again, I think it works, but it wasn't confirmed {or denied} before .
edited 24th May '11 7:32:58 AM by Pulse
I sure said that!I'd like to see Parsee in a fighting game. She uses pretty weird attacks in Subterranean Animism...basically I want to see everyone get chased around by Green Eyed Monster. ^_^
Song of the Sirens
Authority Equals Asskicking is not actually true. Satori can be weaker than her pets yet still command their respect and loyalty. It's not a contradiction, nor is it even particularly interesting.
That said, I don't think she's actually weak or anything. In SA it was pretty clear that she didn't really want to fight and was holding back while in DS she's higher level than Utsuho and Rin. I don't think there's much evidence for power level arguments in either direction though.