Game of Thrones [Potential Book Spoilers]

LET ME HUG YOU MY LITTLE WOOBIE

So that Dany can ~get jealous~ of them.

did you know? Recent surveys have shown that, at a choice between reclaiming your family's titles and ruling the seven kingdoms OR riding the SS Daario's cock, four out of five Targaryens have bought a cruise ticket.

edited 22nd Aug '12 4:01:18 AM by TheBigSock

Wunderbar! Now I'm picturing the image of Aegon the Conqueror X ~Daario~

Aegon VI even has matching hair! He's ~Daario~'s biggest fangirl.

edited 22nd Aug '12 6:02:45 AM by Pattyunknown

Honest Game of Thrones House mottos◊

The Karstark one has an accidental double meaning in Hebrew - Kar means cold.

They had me at "I've made a horrible huge mistake."

Tyrell, Bolton, and Martell are awesome.

Love Greyjoys

You know, that does explain why their dragon has three heads when normal dragons only have one.

Oh god the Baratheons X infinity

I love every single "I've made a huge mistake" post on Arrested Westeros.

Martell: "Wait for it, wait for it..."

You know nothing Jon Snow.

WE ALL KNEW HE WAS MEANT TO DATE EMILIA

On another note, that article's abuse of language makes me despair.

Pretty soon.....Emilia and Ed(Daario) are gonna hook up.

Hw many of you guys like Talisa by the way?

And where do you think the next season is gonna end?

I kind of want it to end at the PW. Because there's gonna be plenty of build up for it this season and it'd be awkward if it ended happening next season.

I wouldn't mind if they made up for it by putting Cat in as the last scene for this season.

In any case, i think this is where show starts to split off quite a bit more from the books.

edited 24th Aug '12 11:02:30 AM by Lord

I hate the whole Talisa thing, for reasons I elaborated on earlier (it going from being a commentary on Robb's upbringing to being a pointless subversion of a romantic television trope that wasn't in the source material and that there was no need for considering the subversive nature of the show is already well-established.)

I agree with basically.

I think the change in the story behind Jeyne basically derails Robb's character and the whole point of his story.

I disagree... We already know they're splitting up ASOS into two seasons, so the real issue with determining when they end season 3 is determining how many storylines they want to present during season 3. Since we also know they're going to present the series chronologically, this means that they cannot present the PW without presenting everything else that happened before that point(including the scenes they'll inevitably show us that weren't POV, like Lysa or Theon).

And there is too much information, in my mind, for everything to be presented in 10 episodes and still get to the PW. They'd be lucky to end with the RW, honestly...

Besides, while the PW is "important", it's not season-ending important. It's a sequence that is, essentially, Renly's death. It's important to move the story along, and put the characters into positions for later events, but not a point one needs to end the season on...

One of the things I really dislike is the motivation behind the change. While I'm a purist, I understand when technicalities force changes to be made (for example, they conserved screen time by combining Cortnay Penrose's scene into Renly's). But the reason they gave for this change was purely aesthetic. It wasn't to save money or screen time or to properly adapt a plot that simply wouldn't work on screen. They decided that they didn't like how it was done in the book and that they knew better than George R. R. Martin.

What deluded poppycock is this?

Robb meets Jeyne after being injured during the siege of her father's keep. She tends to his wounds, and he falls for her because of the Florence Nightingale Effect, while she falls for him because either he's handsome, because he's king, or because Stockholm Syndrome(which one depends on where you fall on the Cynicism/Idealism scale)... He then sleeps with her after she comforts him when he hears of his brothers' "deaths"...

Robb was not going to suffer an injury off-screen... And any battle was going to cost too much to shoot(since they blew the budget on Blackwater, justifiably, and they got to increase the budget by $30 million to do that), which is why we never saw any of Robb's victories, just the aftermath... With no injury and no siege, we can't see Robb meet Jeyne, nor can we have it explained why he'd fall for her...

Knowing that, one is hard pressed to come up with the situation of Robb "defiling" a girl and being honor-bound to marry her, resulting in the RW... Thus the reason for Talisa and the whole romantic angle. Yes it derails Robb's character... But the only other way for them to get to the RW would be to derail Robb's character via having him rape some girl and then feel bad about it...

edited 24th Aug '12 2:33:34 PM by Swish

Since when did the RW turn into the PW?

Different events. Red/Purple.

...why not? Scene in tent: we're going to attack this place. Scene in room Robb will spend most of this story-line in: argh I've been injured oh you're pretty. Problem?

The biggest problem? The injury would put Robb in that room for the duration of ~6 episodes. An injury that's going to sideline a person viewed to be a main character for an extended period of time is important enough to have a need to be address on screen... If it isn't important, why have the injury occur at all? To stay "true to the books"? Then you may as well not even show what Robb is doing at all... Because that would be "true to the books"...

Although, maybe it isn't really a problem, and I'm just exaggerating things... Perhaps if, (ASOS)when Jaime gets his hand cut off, they don't show the actual event, they just show them getting knocked out and when we see them next its "Ow, they cut off my hand", everyone would be okay with that, too... But somehow, I doubt it.

edited 24th Aug '12 8:02:18 PM by Swish

For the reasons just discussed: that arc is highly important to his character and the themes of the story. Stuff still happens.

Also put back in Cat and Robb hearing of the boys' death. Seriously.

You misunderstand...

The sequence that is "highly important to his character and the themes of the story", with regards to Robb, is only briefly mentioned in the book. The sequence is dwelled on as well as enforced that the two actually love each other in ASOS, but in ACOK? There is just the single mention of it, a paragraph long comment stating the facts(Robb got married to a girl he had sex with), and that's it...

They could have made the same thing happen in the series... Various mentions of Robb winning battles, without actually seeing him until late in the season when he surprises all by telling Cat that he's suddenly married. Why don't they do that? Because Robb is considered a main character(as opposed to being a non-POV character in the book), and as such we're going to see what happens with him...

The only reason why Jeyne is special is because the injury to Robb occurred during the siege of her father's keep. If you can't show either of those events, then Jeyne is no longer special, and can be replaced by any random girl, who is met because of any random reason. Which is exactly what happened.

edited 24th Aug '12 9:04:31 PM by Swish