Dragon Ball Multiverse

Does she realize that if she blows up the planet, she can't breathe in space?

She's... maybe six?

And given the examples set by Bardock, Goku, and Vegeta could you really blame her? Even Vegito seems to be chilling out in the middle of space somewhere.

edited 7th Sep '16 5:34:35 PM by Soble

Vegetto believes in the rules of battle?

I would still think that even Vegetto would tell her "you could destroy the planet if you're not careful." Also, if this special is trying to get me to like Bra, it's failing miserably. All I'm getting now is that she was a little brat who's willing to destroy the earth if it would let her win, and hasn't improved much since.

She became a better combat strategist...kind of.

Became a better fighter.

Vegeto's dialogue in French, while technically translatable as "Say what?", is also just a general expression when you notice something surprising. So yeah unless the next page has him respond to what's being said he's probably just sensing Bra being a Super Saiyan.

edited 8th Sep '16 6:30:05 AM by Siriel

... it's that way in English, too. Seriously, I don't get the confusion.

The confusion is that "say what?" implies Vegetto "heard" Bra from wherever he is in the middle of space. Which is a little weird. If he just sensed her power level, which makes more sense, he could have said, "Is that Bra?" or "What the-!?"

Going "say what" specifically implies that he heard something. It's specifically positioned after the panel where Bra says, "in a fight there are no rules!"

So it's a weird Salagir-ism if he actually meant Vegetto sensed her power level rising.

It's really not...

I think I'd be more willing to forgive Bra in the Tournament if she was 6, to be honest.

The fact that she evidently hasn't changed much since childhood is disconcerting.

Poor Salagir. He must have thought "Mmm, it's really a shame most commenters think Bra is unlikable. Maybe if I make a special about her past, they'll reconsider their opinion for a bit. Brilliant!" It's like when a fan fiction writer wants to expand a backstory of a character who's got the most haters, with all the sincere and genuine intensions, hoping that some of them will change their mind, but inadvertently he makes it even more hated. At this rate, I feel more sorry than annoyed.

edited 8th Sep '16 2:44:20 PM by Lampodigenio

If he really thought that he's an idiot and deserves no sympathy

Then again, it was not the smartest idea to make a Bra focused special when she did not gain a lot of sympathy in the first place. Especially that from what i've read in the discussion (still trying not to read the special), it doesn't seem to explain why Bra's the way she is.

There were plenty of better ways to get readers to like Bra, and Salagir squandered them all so far. A prequel special isn't going to change that.

Except he doesn't want people to like Bra. He seems to think that if people dislike the character, then it's a success because she's supposed to be brash and headstrong.

In other words, he basically doesn't see the difference between "I dislike the character because she's poorly written" and "I dislike the character's for their detestable personality."

He's made it very clear that he doesn't care if we like her.

So she's the character equivalent of Spec Ops the Line

GREEEEAAAAAAAAT

Being fair, Spec Ops is better written than Multiverse.

Eeeeeehhh.

You can call it ham handed, but it's still better written.

I'm still going to take a stand against the "You're not supposed to like her" bit: It can happen, but only if the character is really despicable (and remember that if you're doing it with a main character, it's going to need lots of work), or if the character is having a negative character developpement (kind of like Lelouch in Code Geass R2).

And you still need them to have some kind of punishment, or else you're playing favorites and you give them the wrong reaction and they become Scrappies. The only time I remember having her some kind of punishment is Gohan berating her because she was so impulsive she was ready to fight Bojack despite him being in the rules. Afterwards, nothing.

To do it well with a main character...is to not have them as an unlikeable deuce-breakfast 100% of the time...

The punishmental karma is necessary for that type of character to be tolerable in the first place.

So says the gods of writing...not the guy who doesn't care.

x4 I'd argue Very Melon didn't set a very high bar there.

I thought Spec Ops The Line had, like, Bio Shock-level plot twists.

Spec Ops the line Where everything that can go wrong will go wrong.

And even though none of it is in your control, all of it is your fault. Because killing people in a video game, people who never existed and will never exist, is just as bad as killing actual, real, living, breathing humans. And you're a monster.