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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#6151: Jun 29th 2016 at 3:48:46 PM

Oh yeah, he started gloating. That's never bodes well.

Siriel Since: Dec, 2009
#6153: Jun 29th 2016 at 8:08:48 PM

[up] "What he doesn't (or shouldn't) get is any satisfaction from it."

That would be true if we were talking about a prideful fighter like Cell, but Cold is entirely in it for the wish(es); it doesn't matter to him that he isn't winning through being the greatest fighter in the multiverse.

If the organizers offered him and his family the prize without going through the finals, he'd be gone minutes later.

So even if he wins through trickery, he's going to be plenty satisfied by it, and "Haha, the stupid monkey got themselves in a situation where they're losing entirely because they aren't as smart as me." is plenty reason to gloat.

That said, if Bra is winning this round we'll probably see a Kaioken next page.

edited 29th Jun '16 8:12:34 PM by Siriel

BaronPraxis (Veteran)
#6154: Jun 30th 2016 at 3:35:46 AM

[up][up]That's not his original form though, the white one Frieza took when he fought Goku on Namek is. He just learned how to do the transformation that Cooler did and then some thanks to Buu.

If I were to make the folly of trying to apply logic to a manga battle involving parallel universes and a wad of sentient bubble gum that can do magic, I'd say that the Frost demons have unstable genetic code that allows them to mutate into all sorts of new forms throughout their lives.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#6155: Jun 30th 2016 at 10:59:39 AM

But then the restriction forms wouldn't be intentional, that'd just be that code going rampant. It'd be like the opposite of the Saiyans, their bodies are gradually weakening them with every mutation.

Me - I'd be amused if it was part of their parasympathetic system. When Freeza or Cold are agitated or in danger, their stronger forms flare up and when the danger's passed, they'll regress automatically.

edited 30th Jun '16 11:01:07 AM by Soble

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#6156: Jul 1st 2016 at 6:39:37 AM

You know, I find it weird that none of the cast other than the Saiyans have transformations (in canon or non). Considering Frieza can just pull a new transformation out of his ass, humans can have all sorts of impossible powers (including turning blonde and getting more aggressive and dangerous), I'm surprising that Toriyama never invented a transformation for anyone else.

Well, surprised isn't the right word, given, you know. But disappointed.

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#6158: Jul 1st 2016 at 12:52:11 PM

Look at that arrogance, thas just the kind of thing that makes Bulla such a likeable character.

It actually says a lot that even in spite of that, people still want her to lose to dis cold guy...not even lose in general.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#6159: Jul 1st 2016 at 1:13:41 PM

....would this honestly be improved if she looked scared? Cockiness is almost a stable of Dragonball fights, even Trunks took the time to rile Frieza up some.

edited 1st Jul '16 1:14:06 PM by Soble

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#6160: Jul 1st 2016 at 1:17:04 PM

Besides ol' Veggie, most DB characters tend to show some amount of fear if they're on the losing side of a battle...if they aren't scared, then at least they show more determination to win...or they're just angry they can't do anything and don't want show fear.

edited 1st Jul '16 1:18:41 PM by randomness4

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#6161: Jul 1st 2016 at 1:20:24 PM

"Determination to win" =/= What Bra is doing?

Beside that, she's not really losing. All she has to do is level up once and she's the big spoon. Freeza did the same.

edited 1st Jul '16 1:21:04 PM by Soble

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#6162: Jul 1st 2016 at 1:21:35 PM

Level up?

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#6163: Jul 1st 2016 at 1:23:25 PM

Whenever someone uses Kaioken, they refer to it in levels.

randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#6164: Jul 1st 2016 at 1:26:46 PM

Bulla here isn't showing determination...she's trying to play it cool and doesn't want to admit that this Cold guy is actually giving her a challenge. I don't think she's gonna lose...

edited 1st Jul '16 1:27:59 PM by randomness4

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#6165: Jul 1st 2016 at 1:47:18 PM

Reason I don't think Cold is going to lose:

Bardock's vision from earlier. He saw Cold wounded in his final form. What are the odds that Cold will revert to his 'normal' state upon being beaten? On top of that, Bra would have few compunctions about killing Cold.

And while overall Bra's nastiness isn't excusable on account of her being raised by a loving family, her overconfidence/arrogance is very much a Vegeta trait.

edited 3rd Jul '16 3:07:37 PM by Soble

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#6166: Jul 1st 2016 at 1:51:32 PM

The current artwork is slightly better than the artwork of those set of pages...this webcomic has come a long way.

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#6167: Jul 1st 2016 at 3:37:08 PM

Currently I want to see cold get knocked down a few dozen pegs since he is just as arrogant. Bra won't win the tournament since she has the hardesr side of the bracket.

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BaronPraxis (Veteran)
#6168: Jul 2nd 2016 at 6:44:28 AM

Remember Bardock had that vision of Cold in a healing pod and very roughed up. Assuming that happens following this fight, even if he does win he won't come out of it unscathed.

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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#6170: Jul 3rd 2016 at 11:16:45 AM

If Bra was smart she would just put an end to this fight quickly with a warp kamehameha.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#6171: Jul 3rd 2016 at 11:17:45 AM

Cold made it clear her punches didn't hurt him, and we don't know how effective her Ki attacks would be.

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#6172: Jul 3rd 2016 at 11:22:34 AM

He said that, but he still got a bruise from a single punch, so he probably just talks big.

At the very least a Warp Destructo Disc should work.

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#6173: Jul 3rd 2016 at 2:50:37 PM

Warp Kamehameha blew the top half of Perfect Cell off. None of Goku's blows even scuffed him, and he had a much harder time hitting Cell/avoiding Cell's hits than Bra is with Cold.

So it should be enough to outright kill him. But the issue is that the technique takes a long time to charge, both because the Kamehameha has to be charged long enough and the teleportation takes a lot of concentration.

For Goku, anyway... Bra has Kai Kai, the Kaioshin method of transportation, which doesn't require locking onto ki signature to teleport.

So she could just teleport out of the ring, begin charging, teleport within sight if it would take too long, until she's ready to kill him.

Which completely kills all tension but what do you expect from someone with an objectively superior version of the main character's most useful skill?

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#6174: Jul 3rd 2016 at 2:54:16 PM

Oh right, I forgot all that. Guess you were right Shlugo.

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#6175: Jul 3rd 2016 at 3:45:26 PM

For Goku, anyway... Bra has Kai Kai, the Kaioshin method of transportation, which doesn't require locking onto ki signature to teleport.

Where was it said she had Kai kai? I don't recall seeing that anywhere.

Cause if so, then fuck that.

Though now that I think about it, she was able to teleport that one dude into space, which should be impossible since there was no one around in space, which means there's no Ki for her to lock onto....

Fuck. She does have it.

Okay, how did she even get the Supreme Kai to teach it to her anyway.

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