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Heh. Ten could have used that kind of defence back when many of us were ripping on him.

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Not if it's truly your favorite. If you like something, you like it, even if others don't. There's no "great" or "poor" choices in that sense.

True, but I'd still like my opinion to at least be understandable to others (so that I may discuss it at some point)

I don't know about favorite overall, but it might be my favorite finale (to my fave season). I just love and relate to Clara so much.

I cut up one dozen new men and you will die somewhat, again and again.

I also give it points for being the only good Cyberman story in colour? All while having a great twist, a really solid redefining of The Master, and a great use of Twelve, Danny and Clara's characterisations. With Unit making a good showing too. All with some brilliant twists! Not only that but the premise of "let's find an afterlife" is just captivating and engaged the tone of the story to come.

A new Who Back When has been posted. This is the one with...

...the other Last of the Time Lords...
...internal milk...
...a hundred trillion years and no dentists...
...apocalyptic Morlock dickheads...
...and, can we have a drumroll please, Derek Freaking Jacobi...

...It's called "Utopia", here we go!

edited 28th Aug '16 8:44:49 AM by sgamer82

Internal milk?

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That's how I heard it, anyway.

They really wasted Derek Jacobi as the Master. Only one scene...

Heart of Stone

Jacobi master vs the war doctor....big finish do it!

" I did the right thing, didn't I? It all worked out in the end." "In the end? Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends."

He's also the Master in scream of the shalka and he kills it there too.

Hmm. Almost literally finished listening to the Whobackwhen review of "Utopia". Good overall, but what the hell is their problem with the John Simm version of the Master? They gave that guy dog's abuse, calling him everything but a child of god. Jacobi's good in the episode, ok, I think, well, nope, actually - he isn't - I don't really remember him in it, and that's fatal for that particular character. Jacobi's a great Actor on the Stage, but he loses something in television (at least since he finished doing I, Claudius). Whereas Simm's really good in all his episodes.

I really didn't like the running theme of a fake Jacobi biography running through the episode either. They were trying too hard to be funny, and that's fatal.

Victoria is out, and there are flurries of discussion on the ex-'Who actors. Jenna Coleman is the most obivous, but Eve Myles and Tommy Knight are in there as well, plus some blink-and-you'll miss them minor characters.

Eva and Tommy who? (Seriously, if you're going to namedrop people, at least mention what roles they've played, because I've no clue who you're talking about here.)

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Female lead from Torchwood and child male lead from Sarah Jane Adventures.

Well john simm was a terrible master whose entire schtick was a bad frank gorshin impression. I have seen simm in other things and hes fantastic so it baffles me why his masters so bad

edited 29th Aug '16 9:08:28 AM by Shiningknight

" I did the right thing, didn't I? It all worked out in the end." "In the end? Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends."

I quite liked simm!master, I liked how hammy he was. He was one of those villains where you know the actor playing them is having way too much fun, but he made me laugh.

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My favorite is Missy, but I can't help it, I love Simm's Master and all the gay he brought.

I cut up one dozen new men and you will die somewhat, again and again.

I'm really fond of Simms Master; I'm not sure there's anything more I'd want to see from him. But he put forward this conflict of a man wrapped up in his own vision but also with this inexplicably intimate relationship with the guy trying to foil it.

I think a lot of the End of Time part one fell flat. The Master without a plan or even much hope of making a plan should have been really interesting, but outside of Simm damning that the Master of disguise is stuck with the face of the Prime Minister, it doesn't get the function it deserves and get swallows in self destructive monster master until he either has a tender moment with the Doctor or sees an opportunity for a plan.

I mean, much as I hate to cede ground to RTD, I do think the idea that the Master without a plan is just this vaguely feral ball of destruction and violence is kind of interesting. Like all this insane scheming is how he keeps himself together, a coping mechanism of sorts. It doesn't work for the character overall but it squares with Simms' depiction.

edited 29th Aug '16 3:14:06 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.

Yeah it's an interesting idea, but, it wasn't interesting to watch?

Crazy plans as coping mechanism is an ingenious addition to the character though. I agree.

Yeah, I can understand that. I don't actually like End of Time but I do think some of the choices it makes are defensible.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.

Such as?

Well, Simm's Master, as mentioned.

I hate all of Ten's angst but it's pretty in-character for him. It'd be strange if he reacted any other way to his impending demise. (Of course, character growth is a thing but it'd be hard to cram enough into two hours.)

Bringing back Rassilon is a suitably dumb decision that makes sense coming from the people who decided the Master was "the perfect warrior" or whatever.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.

I liked his tantrum for in-character reasons, but I can't with "I don't want to go". The "make it hard for Moffat/Smith" tinge is too much.

I cut up one dozen new men and you will die somewhat, again and again.