Doctor Who

Wow, this is the first time in a long time I've heard people talking about Doctor Who complain about 'The Homosexual Agenda'.

Shame on you Reddit/r/Doctor Who.

@Tam: Honestly, I think you're giving Moffat too much credit.

Reddit is utter trash, what did you expect?

edited 23rd Aug '14 2:13:10 PM by higherbrainpattern

Cut him some slack, Strax is still pretty new to this whole "measured response" thing.

Weird how Vastra straight-up eats bad guys but it's the guy who's interested in actual combat everyone frets over.

Eh? Not like he hasn't pulled that sort of trick before.

edited 23rd Aug '14 2:13:13 PM by Wackd

Yeah, what said. I would add "Constantly." at the end of Wack'd's bit.

...there's really no basis on which to say Missy is evil, even just going by this episode. She's straight-up resurrecting folks. Seems pretty benevolent to me.

Missy just has sort of an evil vibe. And not to be too harsh on Michelle Gomez, who I'm sure is a lovely person, but she does have what I'd term an evil face.

edited 23rd Aug '14 2:16:52 PM by asterism

I had Matt's bit spoiled for me by British tabloids, so it didn't hit me too hard, but I appreciated what it added to the context of the episode.

Capaldi looks like he's spent thirty or forty years in a Glasgow razor gang, only not just as cannon fodder. He's got the look of long experience but he was soo good at it that he didn't get the scars on his face. Just the lines you get when you continually remove people from their spleens. In short, he looks far more evil to me than Missy did.

I wasn't spoiled for anything, which is nice.

Interesting everyone's asking about Missy and no-one's asking about The Promised Land/Paradise/Heaven, heh.

I just found the delivery utterly hilarious. I love that guy.

Because it's fairly transparently the City of the Saved.

Some of the dialog was just great, Clara's "he'll have my back" bit, the Doctor not liking mimes, Vastra going a bit nationalistic declaring "in the name of hue he British Empire" and more.

@Missy

She's hammy, therefore evil.

It's a basic rule of Doctor Who.

Well that was fun! I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the episode, and the little q&a afterwards in the cinemas.

Was Clara talking about the 'fake nerd girl' stigma in that conversation with vastra early on?

The Doctor's not evil.

From a Certain Point of View. I doubt the Slitheen, the Cybermen, the Daleks or the Racnoss would agree.

Wack'd.....uh, it's not obvious if you don't know what that is.

With Missy, it's more that she's so exceedingly nice it seems excessive, and thus comes off as sort of fake. That doesn't in itself imply evil, but does imply ulterior motives.

I'm curious what part of this episode Wach'd originally took so much offence to as being 'Moffat proving himself to be everything Tumblr thinks him to be' (paraphrasing)

The painting fake out scene. Comes off better on screen than in the script, but still really skeevy and objectifying.

That "naked" scene was so much less than made out to be.

Yay Jenny kind of asserting herself. Boo the constant Have I Mentioned I Am Homosexual Today!

That new theme tune sounded very synth-heavy. Lots of bleeps and bloops.

The kiss seemed a smidge contrived too, but otherwise it was a great episode, one of the best post-regen episodes. A real rollercoaster of an episode. Mr sandifer will probably have something wordy to say about it.

I missed that bit. The theme tune was drowned out by my dad phoning me. Deliberately. At the start of the episode. After I specifically told him not to.

I'm going to get my rewengey.

edited 23rd Aug '14 3:17:15 PM by TamH70

@Painting Scene I'm just happy that Doctor Who is portraying a homosexual couple who can mutually enjoy a sexual recreational past time.

Though I apriciate criticisms that Moffat isn't portraying it well enough; I'm just of the view point that portrayal of such a thing at all is above par.

edited 23rd Aug '14 3:25:17 PM by Whowho