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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#76876: Apr 19th 2014 at 7:03:50 PM

[up][up] ...I don't think any of my links have said anything about enlightenment being meaningless.

I mean, there was one about survival at the expense of the ability to enjoy said survival would result in little desire to do much else.

Laura from Shintolin Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
#76877: Apr 19th 2014 at 10:53:34 PM

I think the cybermen were good in the role play. : ) Interesting too.

He's the Doctor. He could be anywhere in time and space.
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#76878: Apr 19th 2014 at 11:37:23 PM

[up][up]

And I think what was key to The Tenth Planet is the suggestion that they actually had found enlightenment.

Maybe they have. Maybe enlightenment is scary. Maybe, once you've found enlightenment, there's nothing else to do. Now what.

Maybe, just maybe, enlightenment actually is banal.

[up]Why thank you! smile

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
thekikoperson from Australia Since: Mar, 2010
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#76880: Apr 20th 2014 at 4:40:59 AM

[up][up] None of that is the same thing as "meaningless".

None of it is this.

And I have been known to explain things poorly. Jerk.

The Cybermen in the roleplay are a lot better than they've been in ages. And the first few encounters were basically perfect.

You've done better than a long list of people, including Neil Gaiman. Have a cookie.

Minuet in Hell.

Pop Between Realities, Home in Time for Tea: Coupling.

Earthworld by Jacqueline Raynor.

EDIT: To answer T Paradox, of the 73 Eighth Doctor Adventures, the Eruditorum did, like, 17 of them.

This is a list of all the New Adventures the Eruditorum did.

There is a substantial difference. And one I can't blame him for.

edited 20th Apr '14 6:02:34 AM by unnoun

Oboeplum Antiheroic antivillain from somewhere really boring Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Antiheroic antivillain
#76881: Apr 20th 2014 at 8:53:23 AM

[up][up]I want to say robot, but I don't know

The internet is a waste of time, and that's exactly what's right about it-William Gibson
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#76882: Apr 20th 2014 at 9:32:34 AM

None of that is the same thing as "meaningless".

None of it is this.

And I have been known to explain things poorly. Jerk.

Sorry!

The Cybermen in the roleplay are a lot better than they've been in ages. And the first few encounters were basically perfect.

You've done better than a long list of people, including Neil Gaiman. Have a cookie.

Thank you!

And sorry for focusing on the negative instead of this. I was kinda cranky coming out of the hospital.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#76883: Apr 20th 2014 at 11:27:25 AM

I probably shouldn't have bitched about your hard work when I knew you were sick.

I mean, I'm probably going to be really cranky postpartum.

...Of course, I didn't direct any of my musing towards you per se. I wasn't thinking you'd be back so soon to address any of it. I was basically just sorta thinking aloud. Except in the thread.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#76884: Apr 20th 2014 at 11:31:14 AM

Well, I mean, I was always gonna catch up at some point. That I might not see and respond to it was never a possibility. I might've been a little less Accentuate the Negative about it if I'd waited, though.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#76885: Apr 20th 2014 at 12:05:24 PM

Eighth Doctor Schedule. Has a lot of links to some Big Finish things and some of the New Adventures and Eighth Doctor Adventures that became available as Ebooks or were still being sold by Amazon. Highlights include the Human Nature ebook, Dead Romance, This Town Will Never Let Us Go, The Infinity Doctors, Scherzo, and other things. All of the links are legal, some of them are free. Some of them are on the internet Wayback machine thingy. Check it out. Or don't. Whatever.

Funnily enough, none of those highlights were Eighth Doctor Adventures. One of them (Dead Romance) was originally a Bernice New Adventure from Virgin Books, that was then remade by Mad Norwegian into a sorta Faction Paradox prequel. Human Nature was a Doctor Who New Adventure from Virgin. The Infinity Doctors was a Past Doctor Adventure by BBC Books. This Town will Never Let Us Go was a Faction Paradox book by Mad Norwegian. Scherzo was a Big Finish.

The Gallifrey Chronicles has an ebook. It's fairly good. Ish. It's also the last book in the line. So.

Earthworld by Jacqueline Rayner.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#76886: Apr 20th 2014 at 1:52:53 PM

So, I was listening to The Butcher of Brisbane...is there supposed to be a ten-minute long music interlude ten minutes in or is something wrong with my copy?

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#76889: Apr 20th 2014 at 6:59:19 PM

Time Can Be Rewritten: Fear Itself by Nick Wallace.

I like how the comment thread is all about the Eight to Nine regeneration. Funny how Night Of the Doctor and Day Of The Doctor happened.

Pop Between Realities, Home in Time for Tea: The West Wing, 9/11

imadinosaur Since: Oct, 2011
#76891: Apr 21st 2014 at 3:55:38 AM

Andrew Cartmel tried and failed to get Alan Moore to write for the series in 1988

Dang.

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
Oboeplum Antiheroic antivillain from somewhere really boring Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Antiheroic antivillain
#76893: Apr 21st 2014 at 7:55:56 AM

I just watched the happiness patrol. That was... erm... bizarre to say the least. It was quite enjoyable though.

The internet is a waste of time, and that's exactly what's right about it-William Gibson
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#76894: Apr 21st 2014 at 9:38:02 AM

[up] It is that.

Scotland.

The Adventuress of Henrietta Street by Lawrence Miles.

I haven't read the Faction Paradox comics, but from what I've heard, they were set after the War, and supposedly served as a prequel to The Adventuress of Henrietta Street.

And they apparently still ignored The Ancestor Cell.

...So, I mean. That's interesting.

My copy of Adventuress was actually one of the first things my niece ever burned. So I can't look at it for any possible continuity references it does or doesn't make. From what I remember it was just that the Doctor had amnesia, and Gallifrey was gone. I don't remember the hows or whys being specified.

Convergence, divergence.

For Want Of A Nail.

In The Book of the War he describes them only as “a process” and “a new kind of history,” and essentially no entries of the book focus on their nature or what they do.

Not entirely true. There's more than a few hints in there. And, I mean, the book goes into a fair amount of detail about what they do. I don't actually know how it could be more explicit on that front.

There is, however, one puzzling footnote to the matter of The Adventuress of Henrietta Street that we ought resolve - a line seemingly without author. In the published version of the book the Doctor requests as a wedding present “six glass phials containing liquid mercury, of the type which might be used to forge the link between the worlds.” This may seem a small matter, but given that it concerns the material components of the Doctor’s mystical ritual, and thus, by extension, the details of what is written as the essential core concept of Doctor Who the oddity of its appearance seems worth commenting on. The line appears in none of Miles’s drafts, including the final copy he sent to Justin Richards. Furthermore, none of the records of copyediting or editorial revisions show it being added. Even the final camera-ready copy does not contain the line. And yet in the final book it appears, a strange ghost event.

This is, of course, bizarre. Indeed, the entire camera-ready copy ends up with subtly different pagination than the published book, due purely to the addition of these extra twenty words, which in turn alter the remaining pages of Chapter Five. The only possible clue is a hand-written note found in a filing cabinet containing the instruction to “use alternate proofs” for Chapter Five. The note is signed “Editor DW,” presumably a reference to Justin Richards’s title as editorial consultant for the line. And yet the note is not in Richards’s handwriting, and he, in interviews, has insisted that he has no memory of any such substitution.

The identity of this “Editor DW” remains impossible to determine.

Like that. That's the sort of thing the Enemy does.

The Enemy.

edited 21st Apr '14 10:21:07 AM by unnoun

imadinosaur Since: Oct, 2011
#76895: Apr 21st 2014 at 10:21:41 AM

I have to say I love the Doctor-shaped hole in The Book of the War. It mentions that there were four great renegades from the Homeworld: the Imperitor President, the War King (the Master), Grandfather Paradox... and doesn't name the forth one or make any more reference to that individual. Also the stuff with the Babels, and some of the War predictions, and and...

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#76896: Apr 21st 2014 at 10:26:50 AM

The Imperator is basically Morbius. From "The Brain Of Morbius".

And the Doctor shaped hole is one of the best parts.

edited 21st Apr '14 10:27:09 AM by unnoun

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#76897: Apr 21st 2014 at 10:27:45 AM

The Rani: Officially not great.

edited 21st Apr '14 10:36:10 AM by Bocaj

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#76898: Apr 21st 2014 at 10:33:19 AM

The Happiness Patrol.

The Brain Of Morbius.

The Adventuress of Henrietta Street by Lawrence Miles.

Invaders From Mars by Big Finish.

Clearly a month for nostalgia and digging things up after their time for sentimental reasons. I wonder who's writing the story this month.

hhhhhhhhiiiiiiiissssssssssssssssssssssss

edited 21st Apr '14 10:41:12 AM by unnoun

imadinosaur Since: Oct, 2011
#76899: Apr 21st 2014 at 10:51:29 AM

The Rani: Officially not great.

Maybe the Rani is Grandfather Paradox...

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#76900: Apr 21st 2014 at 10:53:02 AM

No.

...And, really, the Rani isn't. She never really did much. The Doctor and the Master are always doing things, Grandfather Paradox started a cult, Morbius was kind of a thing. The Rani did science. That's about it.

Scientists don't make for very great renegades. We don't like the effort involved.

Invaders From Mars is a Big Finish audio production starring Paul McGann and India Fisher. Written and directed by Mark Gatiss.

edited 21st Apr '14 10:56:56 AM by unnoun


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