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This is the thread for discussion of The Order of the Stick plot, characters, etc. We have a separate thread for discussing game rules and mechanics. Excessive rules discussions here may be thumped as off-topic.

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edited 18th Sep '17 1:08:08 PM by Fighteer

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#45926: May 29th 2018 at 9:14:24 PM

Chief could also be an obsolete position. Like the queen of England doesn't really do much beyond ceremonial duties.

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#45927: May 30th 2018 at 2:27:27 AM

Apparently it's "the heads of the dwarven clans" who assemble and vote, which suggests that whatever a particular clan's hierarchy happens to be they just send a delegate.

Though it's amusing to imagine a clan who's been using "clan leader" as a meaningless courtesy appointment to placate some doddery old madman, who will now be responsible for the fate of the world.

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#45928: May 30th 2018 at 4:45:59 AM

Hmm. I wonder if Hilgya having put her own clan into financial ruin will have a knock-on effect with respects to this meeting?

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#45929: May 30th 2018 at 7:36:42 AM

Though it's amusing to imagine a clan who's been using "clan leader" as a meaningless courtesy appointment to placate some doddery old madman, who will now be responsible for the fate of the world.

I eagerly look forward to the introduction of Reverse Shojo the Dwarf.

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#45930: May 30th 2018 at 9:50:19 PM

[up] You mean he acts extremely shrewd and intelligent, but is secretly a doddering loon?

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#45932: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:05:35 PM

And Greg is folding up his chair. Bets on him calling this fight a failure and just leaving?

Elfive Since: May, 2009
#45933: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:45:28 PM

I don't think that's a foldable chair. It looks like it fell over and he's righting it.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#45934: Jun 4th 2018 at 12:56:14 PM

Oh, you're right. How conscientious.

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#45935: Jun 4th 2018 at 1:15:15 PM

So Roy brought up a good point: why did the domination gaze work when they are protected?

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#45937: Jun 4th 2018 at 1:45:56 PM

Greg's chair was knocked over by the Flame Strike here. He's been standing since.

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MrAHR Ahr river from ಠ_ಠ Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
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#45938: Jun 4th 2018 at 2:23:39 PM

...my heart sort of broke a little with Belkar XD

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#45939: Jun 4th 2018 at 2:36:14 PM

Someone explain to me what Belkar is going through in this strip?

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#45940: Jun 4th 2018 at 2:42:20 PM

You get dominated, but can't act out things you would Never Ever Do. Belkar has always been easily convinced to attack his team mates.

So him attacking a new ally = simple

but the thing that at least made me go " d'aw" was the fact that belkar, even in a dominated state, was immediately willing to protect V.

It's not a big change in morality, but it's sort of the Vegeta-esque thing that can give an evil character morality.

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#45941: Jun 4th 2018 at 2:49:33 PM

Roy told Belkar "protect V" on the previous page.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#45942: Jun 4th 2018 at 2:50:33 PM

I thought a suggestion spell was the one that wouldn't make you do something inherently against your nature while domination was a little better in that doing something against your nature just gave you another will save with a +2 bonus or something.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#45943: Jun 4th 2018 at 4:04:15 PM

Correct, but that still means it's a good idea to give orders that fit with the subject's nature. From the SRD:

Subjects resist this control, and any subject forced to take actions against its nature receives a new saving throw with a +2 bonus. Obviously self-destructive orders are not carried out. Once control is established, the range at which it can be exercised is unlimited, as long as you and the subject are on the same plane. You need not see the subject to control it.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#45944: Jun 4th 2018 at 4:08:58 PM

"Obviously self destructive" doesn't seem to be in play here. Belkar was made to jump off an airship repeatedly.

Brickman Since: Jan, 2001
#45945: Jun 4th 2018 at 4:40:25 PM

Doesn't Belkar have a ring of slow fall or something like that? Jumping off an airship was obviously not lethal in his circumstances, just unpleasant.

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#45946: Jun 4th 2018 at 4:42:25 PM

He has a Ring of Jumping. It grants +20 to Jump checks.

One time, he loaned it to Roy. It led to this happening.

EDIT: No, wait, he does have something that gives Feather Fall. As seen here.

edited 4th Jun '18 4:47:48 PM by TobiasDrake

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#45947: Jun 4th 2018 at 5:01:29 PM

He bought that in response to always being forced to jump overboard.

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#45948: Jun 4th 2018 at 6:10:27 PM

wild mass guessGreg told Belkar "Jump as High as you can" and the wind would carry him off the ship.wild mass guess

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45949: Jun 4th 2018 at 6:14:19 PM

Heh, Hilgya is still covering Kudzu's eyes from violence. Cute.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#45950: Jun 4th 2018 at 6:23:01 PM

Oh! That's what she was doing. I thought it was an art gaff.


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