The Order of the Stick

Resurrection can only be cast on things that were parts of the character's body at the moment of their death/destruction. So pre-mortem hair clippings would not work.

Durkon was dead at the godsmoot, though. Well, undead.

But post-mortem, definitely.

Technically, that hair was still on his body when he died.

This is the sort of crazy loophole I'd expect from this comic.

I say this new girl will totally save the day, beat up the Snarl, and make Xykon cry so hard, he becomes Zykon.

I'm totes serious.

I misunderstood the course of the conversation!

I'm trying to figure out if Minrah is 100% cleric or is a fighter/cleric (I'm guessing the latter, but no confirmation yet).

The latter? I mean, that's basically what she says.

Well, she just says she was a guard, I don't think she needs a level of Fighter to get that job.

Yeah, but the way she phrases it implies class levels.

Well how does it work in 3.5 before a character has their first level of their first class? Would they just be considered Commoner? Even they can be proficient with a hammer.

I don't think Durkon would want be resurrected. After the vampire is destroyed, he would rather be buried in his homeland (or his ashes scattered, if he has no body by that point) than get resurrected and return adventuring.

Durkon will want to be resurrected as long as the world is in danger. However, they'll probably need to let him know he isn't exiled any more before he'd accept the resurrection while in Dwarven lands.

Re: Minrah: Warrior levels?

Well, considering the OOTS is arount 15th level, Minrah has to have at least a few levels in Cleric AND a few levels in Fighter to be anything more than a stain on the wall as soon as a remotely challenging fight begins. When the Avengers are in your room, you don't say "I can swing an hammer" unless you can destroy an house with it.

Where does Minrah imply class levels in Fighter?

She has a hammer and knows how to swing it, but that's standard Cleric fare. In stark contrast to other clsses, Clerics get to have proficiency with all armor types and all simple weapons. Durkon also uses a hammer and he's pure Cleric.

The statement she was a guard is being taken to mean she has at least a fighter level.

It's not required, though.

Like I said, it's not confirmed, just my suspicion.

Although given a conversation between Lord Shojo and Roy much much earlier ("I'm a level 14 Aristocrat"), I'm inclined to think that multiclassing between NPC classes and PC classes isn't a thing in the OOTS-verse. (AFAIK, there's no canon rules in 3.5 one way or the other on the matter.) Which is what brought me to conclude that she's either a pure cleric, or a fighter/cleric - the NPC warrior class doesn't factor into this.

There's no core rule against NPC multiclassing, but it may be something that they don't do particularly often. See: Miko.

One thing that Rich has stated frequently in regard to the characters in the story is that most of them are not min-maxers or munchkins. Rather, they're ordinary people who do what ordinary people do: they go with what they know, or what they are interested in, or what will take the least effort. They know the core RPG rules of their world in much the same way as you or I know about traffic lights or cars, and most people who drive cars just want to commute to work, not race in the Formula 1.

We've also seen evidence that class selection is handled in OOTS-verse in much the same way as career selection in ours, usually involving a period of formal education, apprenticeship, and/or occupational training. Just as in real life, this represents a significant investment of time and energy, and multiclassing would be roughly akin to changing professions mid-career. Most people don't bother, and even if they don't like their career, changing paths is often too expensive.

edited 19th Sep '17 8:06:39 AM by Fighteer

Don't forget resident badass Paladin O'Chul, who has levels in fighter.

Those are the only two known NP Cs who have multiclassed.

*cough* Nale and Thog. Thog is a Fighter 1/Barbarian ?, and Nale is a Fighter/Sorcerer/Rogue. Or should I say "was"?

Plus, I think some of the members of the Thieves' Guild in Greysky City were multiclass Rogues, but I don't recall specifics. Sneak Attack is a pretty good complement to almost any build.

edited 19th Sep '17 8:09:39 AM by Fighteer

@Fighteer: I was referring to multiclassing between a NPC class and a PC class. Like, say, Warrior/Cleric, or Aristocrat/Paladin, or...you should get the idea now.

Again, I'm fairly sure this is not possible in the OOTS-verse.

edited 19th Sep '17 8:13:13 AM by TotemicHero

Oh, right. Well, again, there's no core rule against it, but it's not something that's typically done. There is a rule for switching from a level 1 NPC class to a level 1 PC class: this is the procedure for promoting your basic 1-HD race template to a Fighter or whatever.

The Monster Manual presents most 1 HD humanoid races as being level 1 Warriors, with 1d8 hit points and the basic ability score array (with the narrative assumption that players will mainly be facing off against the warriors of such a race in combat). To give one PC class levels, you replace that Warrior level with the desired PC class (including saves and other things), reroll their first hit die, and give them the advanced or elite ability score array.

We don't often see the process in narrative, but Goblins does it.

If the process of gaining one's second NPC level irrevocably locks one into that path in OOTS-verse, so be it, but like I said, I don't think Rich has ever declared that to be a canonical rule.

edited 19th Sep '17 8:23:54 AM by Fighteer

Ease of multiclassing is actually discussed here.