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Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#25801: Jul 24th 2017 at 3:01:22 PM

I think it's more likely that Tony had a plan to prevent Surma from dying, but it didn't work. Or that it did work but would have killed Annie, and Tony had to choose between saving Annie or Surma. Either would be more than enough to explain his guilt over Surma's death.

Edit: mixed up some names.

edited 25th Jul '17 6:45:56 AM by Druplesnubb

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#25802: Jul 24th 2017 at 3:13:28 PM

[up]

I think it's more likely that Tony had a plan to prevent Tony from dying...

Tony had a clone!? GASP! surprised

edited 24th Jul '17 3:14:22 PM by kkhohoho

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25803: Jul 24th 2017 at 3:15:04 PM

From what he's said, it sounds like having the kid was Surma's idea and that Tony went along with it because he was sure he could use Science! to save her, so when he failed he felt like he killed her himself.

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#25804: Jul 24th 2017 at 3:28:18 PM

Tony has a lot of problems. He needs help.

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#25805: Jul 24th 2017 at 7:24:59 PM

I've heard tell of a mystical type of witch doctor called a therapist. The Court is obviously big into fringe science. Perhaps they've got such a witch doctor.

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#25806: Jul 24th 2017 at 7:34:52 PM

I'm sure people have *tried* to make Tony go to therapy. I'm just as sure that he was less than cooperative at the time.

I strongly suspect that the only person who can get through to him at this point is Annie, but she's not without her own issues, *especially* when it comes to her father. This is going to be a difficult, messy process.

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#25807: Jul 24th 2017 at 8:40:25 PM

He seems to be pretty open around Mr Donlan.

But you are right in that he probably won' t be very cooperative if put under treatment. The guy is dangerously unstable and self-destructive. He honestly seems to have no concern for his own well being.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25808: Jul 24th 2017 at 8:43:06 PM

Tony has a weird combination of 'I know best about everything' and 'I am a complete failure who does everything wrong and knows nothing.'

Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#25810: Jul 26th 2017 at 12:28:34 AM

1862

I should hope so.

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#25811: Jul 26th 2017 at 4:06:46 AM

Really got to get myself a Cool Beans shirt.

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#25812: Jul 26th 2017 at 4:09:24 AM

Annie looks so confused at the idea that her father may have once been a person who people actually liked.

Huh, this is some seriously black and white thinking.

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#25813: Jul 26th 2017 at 6:34:34 AM

I will continue to assert that these beans are rather quite hot.

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Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#25814: Jul 28th 2017 at 12:14:58 AM

1863

Frontispiece.

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#25816: Jul 28th 2017 at 6:00:30 AM

AKA a true bug. Also, cue flashback!

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#25818: Jul 31st 2017 at 7:26:00 AM

1864: Sorry, Tony.

edited 31st Jul '17 7:26:17 AM by TotemicHero

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#25819: Jul 31st 2017 at 7:30:02 AM

It feels so 70s.

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#25820: Jul 31st 2017 at 8:34:20 AM

[up]I was thinking that. Well, except for Tony. He somehow manages to be 1948 personified whenever he is (you know it's bad when the 70s lad somehow manages to out-40s Mort). tongue

edited 31st Jul '17 8:38:14 AM by Euodiachloris

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#25821: Jul 31st 2017 at 8:44:42 AM

Rocking that Beatles haircut.

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#25822: Jul 31st 2017 at 9:22:35 AM

Donald looks like he's in danger of singing about how all you need is love.

edited 31st Jul '17 9:22:56 AM by EchoingSilence

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#25824: Aug 1st 2017 at 2:17:37 AM

Tom's put up a much happier picture of Donnie and Anja on his twitter. Apparently the outfits are retro even for the time of the scene, so were they at a 70s themed party or something?

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#25825: Aug 1st 2017 at 5:56:50 AM

Oh, that makes sense. I was trying to puzzle out their age, but something had seemed off about the time.

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