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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#25502: May 19th 2017 at 2:46:04 AM

"Yay. I builded me a sucking vortex." tongue

MetaFour Since: Jan, 2001
#25503: May 22nd 2017 at 12:50:04 AM

1834

It's a tool.

That panel of Robot listening in on their conversation is certainly ominous.

Coleman Since: May, 2016
#25504: May 22nd 2017 at 3:54:26 AM

Indeed because last time I checked robot is fully sentient and he might not like his body being replaced.

Hi
Mullon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
#25505: May 22nd 2017 at 7:35:01 AM

[up][up]Someone is going to get murdered so hard because she didn't throw it away. That last line seals it.

Never trust anyone who uses "degenerate" as an insult.
Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#25506: May 22nd 2017 at 11:07:38 AM

Kat getting soul sucked flag: Activated.

Creed of the Happy Pessimist:Always expect the worst. Then, when it happens, it was only what you expected. All else is a happy surprise.
ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#25507: May 22nd 2017 at 9:25:11 PM

[up][up][up][up]ur a tool

"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." Twitter
tricksterson Never Trust from Behind you with an icepick Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Never Trust
#25508: May 23rd 2017 at 4:21:36 AM
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Trump delenda est
stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#25509: May 23rd 2017 at 11:03:02 AM

[up]x5: Given how he reacted to the new arm, and that his old body was broken anyway, and Kat is his God, he's probably ecstatic.

Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#25510: May 24th 2017 at 1:12:48 AM

1835

Friendshiping.

Creed of the Happy Pessimist:Always expect the worst. Then, when it happens, it was only what you expected. All else is a happy surprise.
MattII Since: Sep, 2009
#25512: May 26th 2017 at 2:53:13 AM

I'm not so sure. Why didn't they ask for Surma's help, then? Surely that would have been enough of an opportunity.
Would they? They can wait for thousands of years, so they're clearly in no hurry. They only asked Annie (I suspect) because she'd actually been down there and 'met' Jean already, and so her curiosity was piqued.

edited 26th May '17 3:19:26 AM by MattII

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#25513: May 26th 2017 at 3:42:28 AM

[up]Think you need to reread what the post you're responding to was responding to (when it was responding to your previous post). This all started when you said you didn't think there was a way for the psychopomps to set all this in motion, but saying that they didn't ask Annie is a) a separate point from not asking Surma and b) doesn't forego the possibility that they were pulling strings some other way, possibly through Mort. The question is whether the psychopomps want something from Annie that Surma didn't have, whether or not they specifically asked Annie to do it (they didn't). But they still might have known something of how they could use this to bring Annie into the fold with them. We just don't know enough to know if or how that could be the case.

32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
#25515: May 26th 2017 at 8:54:19 AM

Why didn't they ask Surma? Do we have any reason to believe that Surma even knew about Jeanne? Surma had (at least some of) the same abilities as Annie, but she didn't have the same knowledge or the same crew to help her. (Kat appears to have far outstripped her parents in the field of robotics and etherial manipulation. Eglamore wouldn't have willingly done what Parley did. No one in the original crew could have contributed what Smitty did. And who could have cast the glamour instead of Aieylu?).

Besides that, Surma and her friends did not seem to have the same willingness to kick over the traces that Annie and her friends do. They largely accepted the status quo.

The psychopomps didn't cause Annie to do this. They took advantage of it, when she decided to, but they aren't the ones who put it in motion.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#25516: May 26th 2017 at 10:49:15 AM

That sort of goes to the point, though— the psychopomps have been trying to send Jeanne for a very long time, and they do want something from Annie. So what exactly does Annie have that Surma didn't?

I don't think we can say for certain that the psychopomps did or didn't affect events in some way, that's the point. They could have, and concealed their involvement; or it could just be a red herring. We don't know.

edited 26th May '17 12:40:31 PM by Unsung

32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
#25517: May 26th 2017 at 11:14:39 AM

Well, I'll invoke Hero of Another Story on this one and point out that Jeanne's situation may not be totally unique - maybe the particulars differed, but maybe there were others that needed active assistance to cross over, and Surma had to help them. In which case, Surma wasn't tasked with helping Jeanne because she was busy trying to help out other trapped souls instead.

Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#25518: May 26th 2017 at 12:37:56 PM

Surma may have known better. She seems to have prioritized loyalty to the court over an abstract 'doing the right thing.'

Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#25519: May 26th 2017 at 12:45:32 PM

Well, even that would be something Annie has that Surma didn't.

But I don't think there's enough to go on to prove conclusively that Kat's right about this— or that she's wrong. What's more interesting is that the comic brings it up at all. That just seems like a hint of some sort, a redirect to get the reader thinking along the lines Tom intended, whether to get everyone on the same page for a reveal or to mislead them for the same.

Or not. It just seems like in a chapter full of introspection and speculation, there's probably at least some significance to each talking point.

edited 29th May '17 2:15:54 AM by Unsung

MetaFour Since: Jan, 2001
#25520: May 29th 2017 at 12:44:31 AM

1837

Iiiiiiit's those two! Someone might be in trouble.

Geoduck Since: Jan, 2001
#25521: May 29th 2017 at 2:01:58 AM

[up]I've lost track. Who are these two?

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#25522: May 29th 2017 at 2:14:15 AM

Aether pump, general Competent Background Adult with etheric/science backgrounds.

"Coffee! Coffeecoffeecoffee! Coffee! Not as strong as Meth-amphetamine, but it lets you keep your teeth!"
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#25525: May 29th 2017 at 11:37:46 AM

Oh wow, have we really been waiting since Chapter 28 to find out these two's deal?


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