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--->'''Emily''' ([[spoiler:referring to Mike's gun]]): He held it right up to my face... right here- right up to my nose!

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-->'''Emily''' ([[spoiler:referring to Mike's gun]]): He held it right up to my face... right here- right up to my nose!

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-->'''Emily''' --->'''Emily''' ([[spoiler:referring to Mike's gun]]): He held it right up to my face... right here- right up to my nose!



--> '''Ashley''': ''Go suck an egg!''

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** [[spoiler: Considering how Emily can show remorse for treating Matt badly in the relationship after he called her out on her behaviour, and then proceeding to abandon her when the tower falls. The lesson appears to be "Being nice and sugar-coating your words won't always be the most effective strategy, [[AngerIsHealthyAesop Sometimes you need to get angry for people to understand why and change for the better]]".]]

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** [[spoiler: Considering how Emily can show remorse for treating Matt badly in the relationship after he called her out on her behaviour, and then proceeding to abandon her when the tower falls. The lesson appears to be "Being nice and sugar-coating your words won't always be the most effective strategy, [[AngerIsHealthyAesop Sometimes sometimes you need to get angry for people to understand why and change for the better]]".]]
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** At one point while Jessica and Mike are walking to the cabin, Jessica mentions seeing someone there and Mike takes a look through some binoculars when suddenly a half-rotted NightmareFace pops up in his view with a ScareChord, which for some reason he doesn't mention. It's as if that particular JumpScare was only meant for the player, which comes off as rather weird. Mike does look away immediately after that and it could be that he thought he'd imagined it and didn't want to seem freaked out or thought he was being pranked by his mischievous girlfriend, but his reaction is downplayed to the point that it's hard to say ''what'' he's supposed to be thinking and zero dialogue is devoted to it, with only a brief look at Jess.

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** At one point while Jessica and Mike are walking to the cabin, Jessica mentions seeing someone there and Mike takes a look through some binoculars when suddenly a half-rotted NightmareFace pops up in his view with a ScareChord, which for some reason he doesn't mention. If Mike looks through the telescope again right after that and sees nothing of note, he flippantly says there's no one out there. It's as if that particular JumpScare was only meant for the player, which comes off as rather weird. Mike does look away immediately after that with a worried look, and it could be that he thought he'd imagined it and didn't want to seem freaked out or thought he was being pranked by his mischievous girlfriend, but his reaction is downplayed to the point that it's hard to say ''what'' he's supposed to be thinking and zero dialogue is devoted to it, with only a brief look at Jess.girlfriend.



** You basically play through the plot of a typical horror movie; there are a bunch of teenagers that go to [[ClosedCircle a remote location with no other people around]] and [[CellPhonesAreUseless no signal for their phones]], and end up AloneWithThePsycho for the night. Along the way, there's a TownWithADarkSecret / GovernmentConspiracy, a grizzled old hermit who's MrExposition, ''Franchise/{{Saw}}''-esque [[DeathTrap Death Traps]], a StringyHairedGhostGirl, loads of [[CatScare Cat Scares]] and [[JumpScare Jump Scares]], an AbandonedHospital and AbandonedMine, and lots of other common horror elements present. Part of this is justified in-universe because [[spoiler: it was all an elaborate prank by Josh to get back at his friends.]] [[spoiler: At least until the the PlotTwist, when the ''real'' antagonists show up and it arguably falls back into a [[TrappedWithMonsterPlot different sort]] of ClicheStorm]].

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** You basically play through the plot of a typical horror movie; there are a bunch of teenagers that go to [[ClosedCircle a remote location with no other people around]] and [[CellPhonesAreUseless no signal for their phones]], and end up AloneWithThePsycho for the night. Along the way, there's a TownWithADarkSecret / GovernmentConspiracy, a grizzled old hermit who's MrExposition, ''Franchise/{{Saw}}''-esque [[DeathTrap Death Traps]], a StringyHairedGhostGirl, loads of [[CatScare Cat Scares]] and [[JumpScare Jump Scares]], an AbandonedHospital and AbandonedMine, and lots of other common horror elements present. Part of this is justified in-universe because [[spoiler: it was all an elaborate prank by Josh to get back at his friends.friends and his dad being a horror movie director gave him some experience with the genre.]] [[spoiler: At least until the the PlotTwist, when the ''real'' antagonists show up and it arguably falls back into a [[TrappedWithMonsterPlot different sort]] of ClicheStorm]].



** Similarly to ''Series/MrRobot'', (spoilers for said series), there's an intimidating masked character with a distorted voice that is eventually revealed to be [[spoiler:Rami Malek's character, that he also portrays as being mentally unhinged. In ''Mr. Robot's'' case, Rami Malek's character's schizophrenia caused him to not even be aware of his alter ego himself. But this time it is Rami who takes over as the lead survivor who takes down the bad guys.]]

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** Similarly to ''Series/MrRobot'', (spoilers for said series), there's an intimidating masked character with a distorted voice that is eventually revealed to be [[spoiler:Rami Malek's character, that he also portrays as being mentally unhinged. In ''Mr. Robot's'' case, Rami Malek's character's schizophrenia caused him to not even be aware of his alter ego himself. But this time it is Rami who takes over as the lead survivor who takes down the bad guys.]]]] Also in both media there is a [[spoiler:hallucination by Rami Malek's character of a girl singing ''Frére Jacques'']].
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* IKnewIt: More than one person correctly predicted that [[spoiler:Josh was the mastermind and faked his death in the saw trap. Of course, turns out that he's not the real threat at all...]]
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** In LesYay circles, Jessica and Emily are pretty popular despite that their screentime together is being at eachothers throats.

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** In LesYay circles, Jessica and Emily are pretty popular despite that their screentime together is being at eachothers each others throats.
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** At one point while Jessica and Mike are walking to the cabin, Jessica mentions seeing someone there and Mike takes a look through some binoculars when suddenly a half-rotted NightmareFace pops up in his view with a ScareChord, which for some reason he doesn't mention. It's as if that particular JumpScare was only meant for the player, which comes off as rather weird. Mike does look away immediately after that and it could be that he thought he'd imagined it and didn't want to seem freaked out or thought he was being pranked by his mischievous girlfriend, but his reaction is downplayed to the point that it'd hard to say ''what'' he's supposed to be thinking and zero dialogue is devoted to it, with only a brief look at Jess.

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** At one point while Jessica and Mike are walking to the cabin, Jessica mentions seeing someone there and Mike takes a look through some binoculars when suddenly a half-rotted NightmareFace pops up in his view with a ScareChord, which for some reason he doesn't mention. It's as if that particular JumpScare was only meant for the player, which comes off as rather weird. Mike does look away immediately after that and it could be that he thought he'd imagined it and didn't want to seem freaked out or thought he was being pranked by his mischievous girlfriend, but his reaction is downplayed to the point that it'd it's hard to say ''what'' he's supposed to be thinking and zero dialogue is devoted to it, with only a brief look at Jess.
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*** Ashley, after she [[spoiler:demands that Emily be thrown out of the safe-room. upon discovering the bite. In the event that Emily survives, should Mike choose to not shoot her dead, she gives Ashley a slap if she comes clean about her mistake.]] Sam then tries to excuse her by saying Ashley was scared. But Emily was ''also'' scared [[spoiler:due to almost being ''shot to death for nothing'' by Mike over a bite that would never have turned Emily into a Wendigo]].

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*** Ashley, after she [[spoiler:demands that Emily be thrown out of the safe-room. safe-room upon discovering the bite. In the event that Emily survives, should Mike choose to not shoot her dead, she gives Ashley a slap if she comes clean about her mistake.]] Sam then tries to excuse her by saying Ashley was scared. But Emily was ''also'' scared [[spoiler:due to almost being ''shot to death for nothing'' by Mike over a bite that would never have turned Emily into a Wendigo]].
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*** While Emily is right to be angry at Ashley and Mike [[spoiler:for their overreaction to the bite wound]], she can instead come across as this due to some finding Emily's continuously [[{{Jerkass}} entitled and abrasive]] attitude overstaying its welcome, especially considering how controversial her actions are towards Matt beforehand and during the credits scenes, and seeing her outburst here as yet another tirade to put up with. It doesn't help that Emily [[spoiler: [[ShovedAtTheMonster will shove Ashley to the Wendigo in the finale]]]] even after having already smacked her for owing up to her mistake, making Emily look unreasonably vindictive.

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*** While Emily is right to be angry at Ashley and Mike [[spoiler:for their overreaction to the bite wound]], she can instead come across as this due to some finding Emily's continuously [[{{Jerkass}} entitled and abrasive]] attitude overstaying its welcome, especially considering how controversial her actions are towards Matt beforehand and during the credits scenes, and seeing her outburst here as yet another tirade to put up with. It doesn't help that Emily ignores that Ashley only wanted her out of the safe-room and didn't approve of Mike [[spoiler:pointing a gun at Emily's head]], and Emily in the finale [[spoiler: [[ShovedAtTheMonster will shove Ashley to the approaching Wendigo in the finale]]]] out of spite]]]] even after having already smacked her for owing up to her mistake, making Emily look unreasonably vindictive.vindictive.

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** Ashley, after she [[spoiler:demands that Emily be thrown out of the lodge (which would be a death sentence due to either exposure or the Wendigos). In the event that Emily survives, she gives Ashley a slap.]] Sam then tries to excuse her by saying Ashley was scared. But not only was Emily ''also'' scared [[spoiler:due to having a gun held to her head moments before (courtesy of Mike)]], but the issue was easily solved by ''reading the next page'', making it look like selfish, panic-induced stupidity. However, Emily is treated as being in the wrong, rather than Ashley, making the former come off as UnintentionallySympathetic and the latter a case of this trope.

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** Depending on the player's view, as listed on BrokenBase, either Ashley or Emily can be seen as this during the aftermath of [[spoiler:Emily's bite being discovered]]:
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Ashley, after she [[spoiler:demands that Emily be thrown out of the lodge (which would be a death sentence due to either exposure or safe-room. upon discovering the Wendigos). bite. In the event that Emily survives, should Mike choose to not shoot her dead, she gives Ashley a slap.slap if she comes clean about her mistake.]] Sam then tries to excuse her by saying Ashley was scared. But not only was Emily was ''also'' scared [[spoiler:due to having a gun held almost being ''shot to her head moments before (courtesy of Mike)]], but the issue was easily solved death for nothing'' by ''reading the next page'', making it look like selfish, panic-induced stupidity. However, Mike over a bite that would never have turned Emily into a Wendigo]].
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Emily is treated right to be angry at Ashley and Mike [[spoiler:for their overreaction to the bite wound]], she can instead come across as being this due to some finding Emily's continuously [[{{Jerkass}} entitled and abrasive]] attitude overstaying its welcome, especially considering how controversial her actions are towards Matt beforehand and during the credits scenes, and seeing her outburst here as yet another tirade to put up with. It doesn't help that Emily [[spoiler: [[ShovedAtTheMonster will shove Ashley to the Wendigo in the wrong, rather than Ashley, finale]]]] even after having already smacked her for owing up to her mistake, making the former come off as UnintentionallySympathetic and the latter a case of this trope.Emily look unreasonably vindictive.
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*** Sam/Beth shippers suggest that Beth and Sam initially bonded over their shared protectiveness of Hannah, and that something sub-textual ''could'' have developed between them from there. It surely helps that Beth receives the least characterisation of the whole group, to the point where it's possible to read ''any'' sexual orientation or romantic interest onto her. And unlike Sam/Hannah, Sam/Beth isn't [[ShipSinking sunk]] into one-sided tragedy by Hannah's obsession with Mike.

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*** Sam/Beth shippers suggest that Beth and Sam initially bonded over their shared protectiveness of Hannah, and that something sub-textual ''could'' have developed between them from there. It surely helps that Beth receives the least characterisation of the whole group, to the point where it's possible to read ''any'' sexual orientation or romantic interest onto her. And unlike Sam/Hannah, Sam/Beth isn't [[ShipSinking sunk]] sunk into one-sided tragedy by Hannah's obsession with Mike.

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** Hannah is portrayed as a sweet and naive girl who is the victim of a cruel prank. The issue with that is that she openly pines after her friend's boyfriend (to the point of having a StalkerShrine of him and ''getting a tattoo'' because she wanted to impress him), and she jumps at the chance to get together with him behind Emily's back. Then, after she's humiliated by an admittedly cruel prank, she runs out into a snowstorm like an idiot instead of, say, going elsewhere in the (huge!) cabin to get away from the others. While the group certainly would have done better to tell her off for her behavior instead of pranking her like that, it's hard to see her as entirely undeserving of it (at least, until the poor girl falls off a cliff).

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** Hannah is portrayed as a sweet and naive naïve girl who is the victim of a cruel prank. The issue with that is that she openly pines after her friend's boyfriend (to the point of having a StalkerShrine of him and ''getting a tattoo'' because she wanted to impress him), and she jumps at the chance to get together with him behind Emily's back. Then, after she's humiliated by an admittedly cruel prank, she runs out into a snowstorm like an idiot instead of, say, going elsewhere in the (huge!) cabin to get away from the others. While the group certainly would have done better to tell her off for her behavior instead of pranking her like that, it's hard to see her as entirely undeserving of it (at least, until the poor girl falls off a cliff).



* WhatAnIdiot: As Ashley lampshaded, Hannah ''really'' should’ve known better than to run into the dangerous, cold wilderness. This imbecilic decision is what really kicked off the game's events, and it ''all'' could’ve been avoided if she just hadn’t stupidly overreacted to a prank.
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** The idea of there being multiple supernatural threats besieging the lodge was an interesting concept which was [[spoiler: ultimately revealed to be all part of Josh's master plan to revenge prank his friends.]] But imagine if it wasn't, or at least not all of them. There's already [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane some evidence to the theory that the lodge is indeed haunted when a female ghost appears behind the player characters]] that [[spoiler: Josh would have no reason to rig up as it's behind his targets.]] It would work to the game's strengths and give the characters even more to do than just stand around or run from [[spoiler: wendigos.]]
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* AluminumChristmasTrees: A quite sizable portion of the fanbase seems to think ''Until Dawn'' invented [[spoiler:the wendigo]]. In fact, it's actually [[OlderThanTheyThink a Native American legend that predates the development of the game by centuries, if not millennia]], and has appeared in many other works of fiction before.
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** [[spoiler: Considering how Emily can show remorse for treating Matt badly in the relationship after he called her out on her behaviour, and then proceeding to abandon her when the tower falls. The lesson appears to be "Being nice and sugar-coating your words won't always be the most effective strategy, [[AngerIsHealthyAesop Sometimes you need to get angry for people to understand why and change for the better]].".]]

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** [[spoiler: Considering how Emily can show remorse for treating Matt badly in the relationship after he called her out on her behaviour, and then proceeding to abandon her when the tower falls. The lesson appears to be "Being nice and sugar-coating your words won't always be the most effective strategy, [[AngerIsHealthyAesop Sometimes you need to get angry for people to understand why and change for the better]].".better]]".]]
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** [[spoiler: Considering how Emily can show remorse for treating Matt badly in the relationship after he called her out on her behaviour, and then proceeding to abandon her when the tower falls. The lesson appears to be "Being nice and sugar-coating your words won't always be the most effective strategy, sometimes you need to get angry so people can fully understand and change for the better".]]

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** [[spoiler: Considering how Emily can show remorse for treating Matt badly in the relationship after he called her out on her behaviour, and then proceeding to abandon her when the tower falls. The lesson appears to be "Being nice and sugar-coating your words won't always be the most effective strategy, sometimes [[AngerIsHealthyAesop Sometimes you need to get angry so for people can fully to understand why and change for the better".better]].".]]
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** Chris' SadisticChoice between saving [[spoiler: Ashley or Josh in Chapter 4]].
** Sam's encounter with [[spoiler: the Psycho]], played out like a typical horror movie chase scene.
** [[spoiler: Josh]] being revealed as [[spoiler: the Psycho]].
** The reveal of the [[spoiler: Wendigos]] in Chapter 8 and Emily's intense ChaseScene through and out of the mines.
** The choice in Chapter 8 of [[spoiler: shooting Emily, or sparing her. This is only available if Emily was bitten earlier]].
** Mike facing off against [[spoiler: The Wendigos in the Sanitorium in Chapter 9]]. Highly regarded as one of his best moments in the game.
** In the final chapter, Sam [[spoiler: facing the Wendigos in the lodge to buy time to save everyone]]. Mike [[spoiler: performing a HeroicSacrifice to kill the Wendigos also counts]].
** The epilogue scene if Sam and Mike found Hannah's diary in the mines, showing Josh's [[spoiler: mid-transformation into a Wendigo.]]

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** Chris' SadisticChoice between saving [[spoiler: Ashley or Josh in Chapter 4]].
4. It’s the first ever major threatening moment to the cast, and it truly kicks the game’s plot into high gear from there on out]].
** Sam's encounter with [[spoiler: the Psycho]], played out like a typical horror movie chase scene.
scene. This segment was heavily shown in the trailers and was one of the segments shown for the demo release.
** [[spoiler: Josh]] being revealed as [[spoiler: the Psycho]].
Psycho]]. One of many revelations in the game, and a scene that allowed many to truly sympathize with [[spoiler:Josh]] for the first time.
** The reveal of the [[spoiler: Wendigos]] in Chapter 8 and Emily's intense ChaseScene through and out of the mines.
mines. It’s the first sign that there is [[spoiler:another threat besides Josh, and allows the game’s supernatural elements to fully come into play]].
** The choice in Chapter 8 of [[spoiler: shooting Emily, or sparing her. This is only available if Emily was bitten earlier]].
earlier]]. One of the most controversial scenes in the game, this scene helped shape many people’s opinions of several different characters, and is most commonly brought up in character debates and discussions.
** Mike facing off against [[spoiler: The Wendigos in the Sanitorium in Chapter 9]]. Highly regarded as one of his best moments in the game.
game, and many will claim that this scene won Mike over for them, as it fully showcases his CharacterDevelopment and bravery.
** In the final chapter, Sam [[spoiler: facing the Wendigos in the lodge to buy time to save everyone]]. Mike [[spoiler: performing a HeroicSacrifice to kill the Wendigos also counts]].
counts]]. Regarded as the most tense scene in the game by many, this scene is famous for being a scene in which many people experienced true anxiety of getting their favorites killed. It’s also a scene commonly brought up as people’s favorite.
** The epilogue scene if Sam and Mike found Hannah's diary in the mines, showing Josh's [[spoiler: mid-transformation into a Wendigo.]]]] One of the most bone-chilling scenes, it had fans speculating and wishing for an eventual SequelHook, as well as yet again turning people’s perspectives of certain characters on their heads.
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** Ashley, after she [[spoiler:demands that Emily be thrown out of the lodge (which would be a death sentence due to either exposure or the Wendigos). In the event that Emily survives, she gives Ashley an ArmorPiercingSlap.]] Sam then tries to excuse her by saying Ashley was scared. But not only was Emily ''also'' scared [[spoiler:due to having a gun held to her head moments before (courtesy of Mike)]], but the issue was easily solved by ''reading the next page'', making it look like selfish, panic-induced stupidity. However, Emily is treated as being in the wrong, rather than Ashley, making the former come off as UnintentionallySympathetic and the latter a case of this trope.

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** Ashley, after she [[spoiler:demands that Emily be thrown out of the lodge (which would be a death sentence due to either exposure or the Wendigos). In the event that Emily survives, she gives Ashley an ArmorPiercingSlap.a slap.]] Sam then tries to excuse her by saying Ashley was scared. But not only was Emily ''also'' scared [[spoiler:due to having a gun held to her head moments before (courtesy of Mike)]], but the issue was easily solved by ''reading the next page'', making it look like selfish, panic-induced stupidity. However, Emily is treated as being in the wrong, rather than Ashley, making the former come off as UnintentionallySympathetic and the latter a case of this trope.
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* UncannyValley:
** While the graphics and visual art in the [=PS4=] version of the game are outstanding, some commentators note that the facial expressions of characters appears a little off at times, along with their smiles seeming quite creepy. In particular, the characters' eyes are ''very'' reflective, making them look like glass.
** The way [[spoiler:the Wendigos]] move. They often have very fast, jerky movements that makes them look like it's stop-motion animation or claymation, and it really helps enhance just how inhuman they are. In a way, it makes them appear to move more like grotesque, over-sized insects than mammals, emphasizing just how ''[[AnimalisticAbomination wrong]]'' they are.
** Dr. Hill leans into this more often than not, in no small part by virtue of his sudden, frequent, and detailed facial tics. Possibly intentional to an extent, however, as with [[spoiler:the Wendigos]], since it arguably helps him seem creepy and anxiety-inducing. [[spoiler: It also helps that he's a hallucination.]]
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* SacredCow: Or Sacred Wolf, in this case. [[MemeticBadass Wolfie]] has a legendary status among the fandom, and any Youtuber will feel the fandom’s wrath if they [[spoiler:don’t manage to save him]]. Criticizing him in general is also not a wise thing to do in the fandom.

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* SacredCow: Or Sacred Wolf, in this case. [[MemeticBadass Wolfie]] has a legendary status among the fandom, and any Youtuber will feel the fandom’s their wrath if they [[spoiler:don’t manage to save him]]. Criticizing him in general is also not a wise thing to do in the fandom.

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