- Base-Breaking Character: The Dark Order are an interesting example in that everyone from to Dave Meltzer to Jim Cornette appeared to agree that the Dark Order as they originally were weren't working. However, half of the wrestling audience believed the gimmick was unsalvageable and needed to go away; while the other half thought that AEW might be able to work their magic and make someting special out of them, and were willing to give them a chance. 2020 saw the gimmick really take off and begin to succeed.
- Fight Scene Failure: Notoriously, the final scene of the last AEW: Dynamite of 2019 was a beatdown of The Elite by the Dark Order, which included an Order Mook pretending to hit Dustin Rhodes and missing by a solid foot. In response AEW worked it into the story.
- They Changed It, Now It Sucks!: The Super Smash Bros were respected indie veterans and Ensemble Darkhorses, however, their Darker and Edgier gimmick as the Dark Order just doesn't seem to be able to catch on, even among AEW's fanbase, which is otherwise very wiling to accept experimental and unconventional characters. Although it was less about fans hating the gimmick change as much as it was not knowing them at all; during their AEW debut at Double or Nothing 2019 the confused crowd reacted to their assault on the Best Friends and Hybrid 2 with chants of "WHO ARE YOU?" It also got over eventually with further development.
- They Really Can Work: Even when the Dark Order gimmick wasn't clicking, Uno and Stu absolutely killed it in the ring. The two would come out to silence and apathy but end their matches with a loud and invested audience.
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