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** [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=210 Check out the]] [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance title]] [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=210 of this strip.]]
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** [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=210 Check out the]] [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance the title]] [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=210 of this strip.]]]] For bonus points, Big Boss says of Gray Fox's death, "Can't make an omelette, y'know?"
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** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=210 #210]], Big Boss says of Gray Fox's death, "[[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Can't make an omelette, y'know?]]"
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: While the SuddenDownerEnding in Chapter 499 is effective in its drama, one wonders if it would have been more interesting to [[POVSequel show the events of the game from FOXHOUND's perspective]] as Snake [[DwindlingParty picks them off one by one]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: While the SuddenDownerEnding in Chapter 499 is effective in its drama, one wonders if it would have been more interesting to [[POVSequel show the events of the game from FOXHOUND's perspective]] as Snake [[DwindlingParty picks them off one by one]].one]].
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** Big Boss tells Liquid that the Boss was betrayed and vilified by the Philosophers because they were fighting over money. This was years before ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'' revealed that it was anything but money that led to her death, and just how much shit she had to take even before Operation Snake Eater.
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** The flashback chapters [[spoiler: in Ocelot's mind]] chronicling the events of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'' portray the events of that game without the usual lightheartedness of the comic, with Liquid being [[EvenEvilHasStandards completely disgusted]] by everything that [[TheConspiracy the Philosophers]] have done.
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** The flashback chapters [[spoiler: in Ocelot's mind]] chronicling the events of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater'' portray the events of that game without the usual lightheartedness of the comic, with Liquid being [[EvenEvilHasStandards completely disgusted]] by everything that [[TheConspiracy the Philosophers]] have done. And when Liquid questions [[spoiler:Big Boss]] about whether he struck back against the Patriots, even [[spoiler:Big Boss]] is regretful over the fact that they still exist, and that he had to resort to the same underhanded tactics they used because they would've never given him a chance otherwise.
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* SacredCow: While the comic has been outdated by ''4'', ''Peace Walker'', and ''V'', it's still fondly-remembered by those who read it and is generally considered to be one of the best gaming-focused webcomics.
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* HoYay: Not nearly as much as you'd expect, [[HoYay/MetalGearSolid considering the series]], but hell, there's [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=283 always]] [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=354 Ocelot.]]
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* HoYay: Not nearly as much as you'd expect, [[HoYay/MetalGearSolid [[HoYay/MetalGear considering the series]], but hell, there's [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=283 always]] [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=354 Ocelot.]]
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* IKnewIt: For all the stuff the comic failed to predict about the canon, it also managed to hit the nail on the head in a truly absurd number of ways. If your first read through is after the contradictory material came out, you’ll probably gloss right over the stuff it called ahead of time. The whole “La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo” as a forced mental block so people couldn’t say “The Patriots”? That wasn’t canon yet when the comic established it. Big Boss going into a coma in 1975? The coma was only mentioned in the translation of the first game as a {{Woolseyism}}, and would only be made canon by VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes over a decade later. The comical abuse of nanomachines? While they already existed in canon, the comic ended before ''Metal Gear Solid 4'' even came out and made them a meme for explaining everything. To a lesser extent, Berthold is basically [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Blade Wolf]] as an organic being and Psycho Mantis puppeting a zombie soldier would later come up in VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain. While he never tried to replace his eye, Big Boss getting a replacement body part would also become a thing. [[spoiler:Kinda.]]
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: While the SuddenDownerEnding in Chapter 499 is effective in its drama, one wonders if it would have been more interesting to [[POVSequel show the events of the game from FOXHOUND's perspective]] as Snake [[DwindlingPart picks them off one by one]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: While the SuddenDownerEnding in Chapter 499 is effective in its drama, one wonders if it would have been more interesting to [[POVSequel show the events of the game from FOXHOUND's perspective]] as Snake [[DwindlingPart [[DwindlingParty picks them off one by one]].
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** The penultimate comic, which shows us the dead bodies of all the main characters (excluding Ocelot), might also count. The sheer ''suddenness'' of it all, after seeing Liquid gushing about the prospect of facing Snake on the elevator, accentuates it, as we don't even get to see the events of [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid the game]] from their P.O.V. For a new reader, they're all fine and ready for action one minute, then with the single innocent click of a mouse [[SuddenDownerEnding they're all dead]].
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** The penultimate comic, which shows us the dead bodies of all the main characters (excluding Ocelot), might also count. The sheer ''suddenness'' of it all, after seeing Liquid gushing about the prospect of facing Snake on the elevator, accentuates it, as we don't even get to see the events of [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid the game]] from their P.O.V. For a new reader, they're all fine and ready for action one minute, then with the single innocent click of a mouse [[SuddenDownerEnding they're all dead]].dead]].
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: While the SuddenDownerEnding in Chapter 499 is effective in its drama, one wonders if it would have been more interesting to [[POVSequel show the events of the game from FOXHOUND's perspective]] as Snake [[DwindlingPart picks them off one by one]].
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: While the SuddenDownerEnding in Chapter 499 is effective in its drama, one wonders if it would have been more interesting to [[POVSequel show the events of the game from FOXHOUND's perspective]] as Snake [[DwindlingPart picks them off one by one]].
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** The penultimate comic, which shows us the dead bodies of all the main characters (excluding Ocelot), might also count. The sheer ''suddenness'' of it all, after seeing Liquid gushing about the prospect of facing Snake on the elevator, accentuates it, as we don't even get to see the events of the game from their P.O.V. For a new reader, they're all fine and ready for action one minute, then with the single innocent click of a mouse [[SuddenDownerEnding they're all dead]].
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** The penultimate comic, which shows us the dead bodies of all the main characters (excluding Ocelot), might also count. The sheer ''suddenness'' of it all, after seeing Liquid gushing about the prospect of facing Snake on the elevator, accentuates it, as we don't even get to see the events of [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid the game game]] from their P.O.V. For a new reader, they're all fine and ready for action one minute, then with the single innocent click of a mouse [[SuddenDownerEnding they're all dead]].
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** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=441 #441]], Master Miller is killed by Ocelot. The true ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' has Miller and Ocelot part ways on very bad terms with Ocelot remarking that "One of us will have to kill the other", heavily implying that he was the one who killer Miller in canon.
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** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=441 #441]], Master Miller is killed by Ocelot. The true ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' has Miller and Ocelot part ways on very bad terms with Ocelot remarking that "One of us will have to kill the other", heavily implying that he was the one who killer Miller same thing happened in canon.
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** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=441 #441]], Master Miller is killed by Ocelot. The true ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' has Kaz and Ocelot part ways on very bad terms with Ocelot remarking that "One of us will have to kill the other", heavily implying that he was the one who canonically murdered Miller.
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** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=441 #441]], Master Miller is killed by Ocelot. The true ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' has Kaz Miller and Ocelot part ways on very bad terms with Ocelot remarking that "One of us will have to kill the other", heavily implying that he was the one who canonically murdered Miller.killer Miller in canon.
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** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=441 #441]], Master Miller is killed by Ocelot. The true ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' heavily implies this is what happened in canon.
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** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=441 #441]], Master Miller is killed by Ocelot. The true ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' has Kaz and Ocelot part ways on very bad terms with Ocelot remarking that "One of us will have to kill the other", heavily implies this is what happened in canon.implying that he was the one who canonically murdered Miller.
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** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=441 #441]], Master Miller is killed by Ocelot, [[spoiler: which the true ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' implies is what happened in canon via a conversation with Master Miller and Ocelot over Big Boss and his sons goes sour, with Ocelot remarking that "One of us will have to kill the other".]].
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** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=441 #441]], Master Miller is killed by Ocelot, [[spoiler: which the Ocelot. The true ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' heavily implies this is what happened in canon via a conversation with Master Miller and Ocelot over Big Boss and his sons goes sour, with Ocelot remarking that "One of us will have to kill the other".]].canon.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In his one appearance in the comic, only Miller's left arm is visible. Guess which arm he ended up missing in canon?
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** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=441 #441]], Master Miller is killed by Ocelot, [[spoiler: which the true ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' implies is what happened in canon via a conversation with Master Miller and Ocelot over Big Boss and his sons goes sour, with Ocelot remarking that "One of us will have to kill the other".]].
*** In the same strip (his one appearance in thecomic, comic), only Miller's left arm is visible. Guess which arm he ended up missing in canon?
** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=441 #441]], Master Miller is killed by Ocelot, [[spoiler: which the true ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' implies is what happened in canon via a conversation with Master Miller and Ocelot over Big Boss and his sons goes sour, with Ocelot remarking that "One of us will have to kill the other".]].
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*** Similarly, in [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=441 #441]], Master Miller is killed by Ocelot, [[spoiler: which the true ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' implies is what happened in canon via a conversation with Master Miller and Ocelot over Big Boss and his sons goes sour, with Ocelot remarking that "One of us will have to kill the other".]].
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* HoYay: Not nearly as much as you'd expect, [[HoYay/MetalGearSolid considering the series]], but hell, there's [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=283 always]] [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=354 Ocelot.]]
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** Despite early appearances to the contrary, Ocelot is ''still'' one of these here.
--> '''Mantis:''' But it's all ''about'' the little details! I mean, you must spend every day pretending to act like you're falsely letting on that you aren't not unbetraying someone you don't not purport to allegedly work for but really ''do''! How do you keep all this shit straight without having an ''aneurysm''?
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** Saladin (Big Boss) is almost certainly one of these too, with his extreme fondness for [[{{ThePlan}} plans]], especially when it comes to manipulating Liquid. Not to mention his general [[BadassLongcoat badassery]].
** Despite early appearances to the contrary, Ocelot is ''still'' one of these here.
--> '''Mantis:''' But it's all ''about'' the little details! I mean, you must spend every day pretending to act like you're falsely letting on that you aren't not unbetraying someone you don't not purport to allegedly work for but really ''do''! How do you keep all this shit straight without having an ''aneurysm''?
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** Saladin (Big Boss) is almost certainly one of these too, with his extreme fondness for [[{{ThePlan}} plans]], especially when it comes to manipulating Liquid. Not to mention his general [[BadassLongcoat badassery]].
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** [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=313f This guest strip]], a ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'' parody, features the now famous Smash invitation letters roughly seven years before they were introduced in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosForNintendo3DSAndWiiU''.
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** The penultimate comic, which shows us the dead bodies of all the main characters (excluding Ocelot), might also count.
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** The fate of [[spoiler: Berthold, looking on sadly at his master's dead body]].
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** The fate of [[spoiler: Berthold, looking on sadly at his master's dead body]].body, already rendered mentally disabled trying to stop Grey Fox.]]
** Liquid [[spoiler:silencing the crackers by snapping one’s neck and mindwiping the other. It’s truly his StartOfDarkness, where he starts tossing the lives of his allies aside for the plan.]]
** Liquid [[spoiler:silencing the crackers by snapping one’s neck and mindwiping the other. It’s truly his StartOfDarkness, where he starts tossing the lives of his allies aside for the plan.]]
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* In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=210 #210]], Big Boss says of Gray Fox's death, "[[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Can't make an omelette, y'know?]]"
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* In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=210 #210]], Big Boss says of Gray Fox's death, "[[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Can't make an omelette, y'know?]]"
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** Out of everyone, Mantis is the one who hates Liquid the absolute most, and is by far the person on the team he respects the absolute least, and Liquid doesn't even bother to not annoy Mantis. According to ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'', Mantis and Liquid are both probably the closest thing the other has ever had to a true friend, with Mantis even letting Liquids consciousness override his own to use a Metal Gear.
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** Out of everyone, Mantis is the one who hates Liquid the absolute most, and is by far the person on the team he respects the absolute least, and Liquid doesn't even bother to not annoy Mantis. According to ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'', Mantis and Liquid are both probably the closest thing the other has ever had to a true friend, with Mantis even letting Liquids consciousness override his own to use a Metal Gear.Gear and cured him of the vocal parasite before resucing him from being bombed.
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* HarsherInHindsight: In his one appearance in the comic, only Miller's left arm is visible. Guess which arm he ended up missing in canon?
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** Mantis' persistant refusal to believe in the existence of ghosts (despite great evidence to the contrary) became even funnier after the release of ''Metal Gear Solid 4'' where Mantis appears...''as a ghost''. Possessing a'' girl'', even!
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** Mantis' persistant refusal to believe in the existence of ghosts (despite great evidence to the contrary) became even funnier after the release of ''Metal Gear Solid 4'' where Mantis appears...''as a ghost''. Possessing a'' girl'', even!
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* ShoutOut / TakeThat: Unclear, but the female half-wolves in Shadow Moses mostly only say "[[{{Webcomic/Hiimdaisy}} Hi! I'm Daisy!]]"
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** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=429 #429]], Liquid's demands to the U.S. Government include a permanent trademark for "Outer Haven", the implication being that Liquid has misspelled Outer Heaven and corrected himself. Come ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Metal Gear Solid 4]]'', guess what Liquid Ocelot names his [[spoiler: aquatic battle fortress]]?
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** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=429 #429]], Liquid's demands to the U.S. Government include a permanent trademark for "Outer Haven", the implication being that Liquid has misspelled misspells Outer Heaven and corrected himself.as "Outer Haven" in his list of demands. Come ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Metal Gear Solid 4]]'', guess what Liquid Ocelot names his [[spoiler: aquatic battle fortress]]?
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** In [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=429 this strip]], Liquid misspells Outer Heaven as "Outer Haven," which ends up being the name of Liquid Ocelot's mobile fortress in ''Metal Gear Solid 4.''
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*** Similarly, in [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=441 #441]], Master Miller is killed by Ocelot, [[spoiler: which the true ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' implied after a conversation with Master Miller and Ocelot over Big Boss and his sons goes sour, with Ocelot remarking that "One of us will have to kill the other".]].
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*** Similarly, in [[http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=441 #441]], Master Miller is killed by Ocelot, [[spoiler: which the true ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain'' implied after implies is what happened in canon via a conversation with Master Miller and Ocelot over Big Boss and his sons goes sour, with Ocelot remarking that "One of us will have to kill the other".]].
