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* AngstWhatAngst: Jake doesn't take very long to get over his folks' murder, about 15 minutes sees him ready to run off for more adventures with Roland.

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* AngstWhatAngst: Jake doesn't take very long to get over his folks' murder, about 15 minutes sees him ready to run off for more adventures with Roland. This might be understandable with his step-father, who Jake had a sour relationship with, but he was completely distraught about his mother's death.



* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: [[spoiler: Roland teaching Jake how to fire a gun, whilst they both recite the Gunslinger oath together.]]
* HoYay: In the spirit of the books (especially in ''Literature/TheGunslinger''), the Man in Black gets into Roland's personal space (physical and psychological) pretty frequently. And then there's the "tall, dark, and handsome" line.

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[[spoiler: Roland teaching Jake how to fire a gun, whilst they both recite the Gunslinger oath together.]]
** After discovering the [[spoiler: the burnt remains of Jake's mother]], Roland is incredibly gentle and paternal with Jake. Softly instructing Jake to close his mind to his shine, [[spoiler: both so Walter cannot track Jake and so Jake won't be forced to witness his mother's gruesome murder]], and then gently picking him up like a small child to carry him away.
** After pulling off a sick trickshot to save Jake from Walter's minions, Jake rushes to hug Roland in thanks and fear, despite believing Roland doesn't like him.
** The development of Jake and Roland's relationship in general. While Roland starts out harsh, dismissive, and nearly violent with Jake, he ends the film a warm and protective adoptive PapaWolf to him.
* HoYay: In the spirit of the books (especially in ''Literature/TheGunslinger''), the Man in Black gets into Roland's personal space (physical and psychological) pretty frequently. And then there's the "tall, dark, and handsome" line. The film even ends with the two essentially battling it out for control of a young child, giving almost a bitter divorced energy.
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* TookTheBadFilmSeriously: Leaning into the AbilityOverAppearance factor, Creator/IdrisElba is considered by critics and reviewers to be one of the few bright spots in an otherwise mediocre movie.
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* EvilIsCool / EvilIsSexy: Walter cuts quite the striking figure in that black suit.

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* EvilIsCool / EvilIsSexy: Walter cuts quite the striking figure in that black suit.%%* EvilIsCool: Walter.
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* SugarWiki/FunnyMoments:
** Before Jake and Roland [[spoiler: confront Walter, they head off to a gun store in New York, where they ''allow'' the owner to believe he's being robbed.]]
** After [[spoiler: defeating Walter and preventing the fall of the tower, Jake buys Roland a hot dog. Naturally, Roland thinks it's made from actual dogs and mutters "savages", but has a bite anyway. He likes it, then asks "What breed?"]]
** At one point Roland [[spoiler:encounters a pair of hookers while riding a bus in New York. After they hit on him, he informs them that they have both forgotten the faces of their fathers. Even out of context, they're insulted.]]
** [[BlackComedy In a way]], it's a touch funny to see [[spoiler: Walter casually [[VillainsOutShopping cooking chicken]] in the kitchen when Jake's mother and step-father return home.]]
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* BadassDecay: The Doorkeeper in the house on Dutch Hill. Compare to the novels, where it took the combined efforts of Roland, Eddie, and Susannah to help pull Jake through to Mid-World; here, all it takes is some determined shouting from Jake (powered by his Shine, but still).
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* AuthorsSavingThrow:
** Any fans disappointed with how the Man in Black was killed off in the books may find some enjoyment in the film's climax, where Roland has a final showdown with his lifelong nemesis.
** Those who were pissed that Jake died yet again in the novels (along with ''all'' of Roland's companions either dying or departing to an alternate Earth by the end) can relish him finally surviving til the end of the story.
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* HoYay: In the spirit of the books' occasional glints of FoeYay (especially in ''Literature/TheGunslinger''), the Man in Black gets into Roland's personal space (physical and psychological) pretty frequently. And then there's the "tall, dark, and handsome" line.

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* HoYay: In the spirit of the books' occasional glints of FoeYay books (especially in ''Literature/TheGunslinger''), the Man in Black gets into Roland's personal space (physical and psychological) pretty frequently. And then there's the "tall, dark, and handsome" line.
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* AngstWhatAngst: Jake doesn't take very long to get over his folks' murder, about 15 minutes sees him ready to run off for more adventures with Roland.

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* EvilIsCool: Walter cuts quite the striking figure in that black suit.
* EvilIsSexy: Walter cuts quite the striking figure in that black suit.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Any fans disappointed with how the Man in Black was killed off in the books may find some enjoyment in the film's climax, where Roland has a final showdown with his lifelong nemesis.

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Any fans disappointed with how the Man in Black was killed off in the books may find some enjoyment in the film's climax, where Roland has a final showdown with his lifelong nemesis.nemesis.
** Those who were pissed that Jake died yet again in the novels (along with ''all'' of Roland's companions either dying or departing to an alternate Earth by the end) can relish him finally surviving til the end of the story.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Any fans disappointed with how the Man in Black was killed off in the books may find some enjoyment in the film's climax, where Roland has a final showdown with his lifelong nemesis.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5IlwWCovIU&list=PLIpTEXYFZvwimmRjVkS-KzEHfZPPLn7lT Everywhere.]] Tom Holkenborg composed a pretty impressive hybrid of HighFantasy and SpaghettiWestern.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5IlwWCovIU&list=PLIpTEXYFZvwimmRjVkS-KzEHfZPPLn7lT Everywhere.]] [[Music/JunkieXL Tom Holkenborg Holkenborg]] composed a pretty impressive hybrid of HighFantasy and SpaghettiWestern.
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Stephen King fans were put-off by the film's excessive simplification of the plot, but at the same time, it was too complicated for casual movie fans to enjoy. As a result, the film was a box office disappointment.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: The way Roland [[spoiler:kills the Man in Black. Despite shooting at him, the Man in Black merely uses his magic to catch the bullets. He's able to do this even when Roland uses his surroundings to ricochet his shots at him. Roland gets around this by shooting one bullet at the Man in Black, then shoots a second bullet to ricochet off nearby debris. When the Man in Black tries to catch the first bullet, the second bullet knocks into it, and deflects the first bullet into his heart. Roland's then able to empty the rest of his gun into him and cap it off with a headshot.]] Especially [[CatharsisFactor cathartic]] for those who didn't like [[DroppedABridgeOnHim how the villain was dispatched]] [[Literature/TheDarkTower in the final book]].

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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: The way Roland [[spoiler:kills the Man in Black. Despite shooting at him, the Man in Black merely uses his magic to catch the bullets. He's able to do this even when Roland uses his surroundings to ricochet his shots at him. Roland gets around this by shooting one bullet at the Man in Black, then shoots a second bullet to ricochet off nearby debris. When the Man in Black tries to catch the first bullet, the second bullet knocks into it, and deflects the first bullet into his heart. Roland's then able to empty the rest of his gun into him and cap it off with a headshot.]] Especially [[CatharsisFactor cathartic]] for those who didn't like [[DroppedABridgeOnHim how the villain was dispatched]] [[Literature/TheDarkTower [[Literature/TheDarkTower2004 in the final book]].

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5IlwWCovIU&list=PLIpTEXYFZvwimmRjVkS-KzEHfZPPLn7lT Everywhere.]] Tom Holkenborg composed a pretty impressive hybrid of HighFantasy and SpaghettiWestern.



* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: The way Roland [[spoiler:kills the Man in Black. Despite shooting at him, the Man in Black merely uses his magic to catch the bullets. He's able to do this even when Roland uses his surroundings to ricochet his shots at him. Roland gets around this by shooting one bullet at the Man in Black, then shoots a second bullet to ricochet off nearby debris. When the Man in Black tries to catch the first bullet, the second bullet knocks into it, and deflects the first bullet into his heart. Roland's then able to empty the rest of his gun into him and cap it off with a headshot.]] Especially [[CatharsisFactor cathartic]] for those who didn't like [[DroppedABridgeOnHim how the villain was dispatched]] [[Literature/TheDarkTower in the final book]].
* CrowningMomentOfFunny:

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: The way Roland [[spoiler:kills the Man in Black. Despite shooting at him, the Man in Black merely uses his magic to catch the bullets. He's able to do this even when Roland uses his surroundings to ricochet his shots at him. Roland gets around this by shooting one bullet at the Man in Black, then shoots a second bullet to ricochet off nearby debris. When the Man in Black tries to catch the first bullet, the second bullet knocks into it, and deflects the first bullet into his heart. Roland's then able to empty the rest of his gun into him and cap it off with a headshot.]] Especially [[CatharsisFactor cathartic]] for those who didn't like [[DroppedABridgeOnHim how the villain was dispatched]] [[Literature/TheDarkTower in the final book]].
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[spoiler: Roland teaching Jake how to fire a gun, whilst they both recite the Gunslinger oath together.]]
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5IlwWCovIU&list=PLIpTEXYFZvwimmRjVkS-KzEHfZPPLn7lT Everywhere.]] Tom Holkenborg composed a pretty impressive hybrid of HighFantasy and SpaghettiWestern.
* EvilIsCool / EvilIsSexy: Walter cuts quite the striking figure in that black suit.

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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: EvilIsCool: Walter cuts quite the striking figure in that black suit.
* EvilIsSexy: Walter cuts quite the striking figure in that black suit.
* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments:
[[spoiler: Roland teaching Jake how to fire a gun, whilst they both recite the Gunslinger oath together.]]
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5IlwWCovIU&list=PLIpTEXYFZvwimmRjVkS-KzEHfZPPLn7lT Everywhere.]] Tom Holkenborg composed a pretty impressive hybrid of HighFantasy and SpaghettiWestern.
* EvilIsCool / EvilIsSexy: Walter cuts quite the striking figure in that black suit.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: The way Roland [[spoiler:kills the Man in Black. Despite shooting at him, the Man in Black merely uses his magic to catch the bullets. He's able to do this even when Roland uses his surroundings to ricochet his shots at him. Roland gets around this by shooting one bullet at the Man in Black, then shoots a second bullet to ricochet off nearby debris. When the Man in Black tries to catch the first bullet, the second bullet knocks into it, and deflects the first bullet into his heart. Roland's then able to empty the rest of his gun into him and cap it off with a headshot.]] Especially [[CatharsisFactor cathartic]] for those who didn't like [[DroppedABridgeOnHim how the villain was dispatched]] [[Literature/TheDarkTower in the final book]].
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** After [[spoiler: defeating Walter and preventing the fall of the tower, Jake buys Roland a hotdog. Naturally, Roland thinks it's made from actual dogs and mutters "savages", but has a bite anyway. He likes it, then asks "What breed is it?"]]

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** After [[spoiler: defeating Walter and preventing the fall of the tower, Jake buys Roland a hotdog.hot dog. Naturally, Roland thinks it's made from actual dogs and mutters "savages", but has a bite anyway. He likes it, then asks "What breed is it?"]]breed?"]]
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* NightmareFuel:
** Walter's [[CompellingVoice ability to make others do as he says]], even against their will.
*** The nature of how Walter [[CompellingVoice commanded]] his two mooks who [[YouHaveFailedMe failed him]] to "kill each other". He orders them to do it while they're in a restaurant, so it's likely they could've ''eaten each other''! Either way, maybe it's best that the spectacle was [[NothingIsScarier off-screen]].
*** Walter sees a happy child with her mother and purely ForTheEvulz says, "Hate". The child's eyes go cold and fortunately we don't see what happens next here either.
** At some point, [[spoiler: when he's at Jake's house and kills Jake's step-father, the mother tries to cry out, but Walter [[CompellingVoice shushes her softly]], [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything preventing her from calling out for help]].]]
** Deschain using a tarantula as a visual aid for all the creatures of hell that will break loose if the tower should fall. Not helpful if you have arachnophobia. Also terrifying if you remember another, iconic Stephen King villain who is known to be a spider....
** Tying to the above, that event happened near a circus called Pennywise. A circus, where kids play around, named [[Literature/{{It}} Pennywise]].
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Walter o' Dim]], real name Walter Padick and known as [[DarkIsEvil The Man in Black]], is an EvilSorcerer who abducts multiple "special" children to use their psychic energy to try to annihilate the Dark Tower which protects existence from the hungry monstrosities that dwell outside reality. This is a process that [[WouldHurtAChild leaves the children]] "[[EmptyShell burnt out]]" by the end, where Walter discards them. Having a [[ArchEnemy dark enmity]] with the Gunslinger Roland Deschain, Walter destroys Roland's home, killing all his fellow Gunslingers, the last being Roland's own father who Walter [[YouKilledMyFather murders in front of him.]] When 11-year-old Jake Chambers escapes Walter's men, Walter punishes them by forcing them to kill each other and sends soldiers to destroy an entire village Roland and Jake have taken refuge at. Murdering the local seer to get their location, Walter ambushes Jake's stepfather and mother, murdering both--the latter by [[ManOnFire burning her alive]]--and [[KickTheDog draws a smiley face and taunting message from her ashes for Jake to find]]. When Jake is captured, Walter attempts to use him to [[OmnicidalManiac bring down the Dark Tower]] and [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt start the apocalypse]] while facing Roland in a final battle.

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Walter o' Dim]], real name Walter Padick and known as [[DarkIsEvil The Man in Black]], is an EvilSorcerer who abducts multiple "special" children to [[PoweredByAForsakenChild use their psychic energy energy]] to try to annihilate the Dark Tower which protects existence from the hungry monstrosities that dwell outside reality. This is a process that [[WouldHurtAChild leaves the children]] "[[EmptyShell burnt out]]" by the end, where Walter discards them. Having a [[ArchEnemy dark enmity]] with the Gunslinger Roland Deschain, Walter destroys Roland's home, killing all his fellow Gunslingers, the last being Roland's own father who Walter [[YouKilledMyFather murders in front of him.]] When 11-year-old Jake Chambers escapes Walter's men, Walter punishes them by forcing them to kill each other and sends soldiers to destroy an entire village Roland and Jake have taken refuge at. Murdering the local seer to get their location, Walter ambushes Jake's stepfather and mother, murdering both--the latter by [[ManOnFire burning her alive]]--and [[KickTheDog draws a smiley face and taunting message from her ashes for Jake to find]]. When Jake is captured, Walter attempts to use him to [[OmnicidalManiac bring down the Dark Tower]] and [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt start the apocalypse]] while facing Roland in a final battle.

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