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* MagnificentBastard: Brock Pike is the ruthless head of [[PrivateMilitaryContractors Black Forest]] who, along with General Morrison and CIA Agent Lynch, masterminds a plot to steal printing plate so they can make themselves wealthy off counterfeit money. When Lynch trick the A-Team into recovering the plates for them, Pike and Morrison double cross him, faking Morrison’s death and absconding with the plates while the A-Team is locked away for the sanctioned mission. When the team, recruited by Lynch, track Morrison and Pike to Germany and capture Morrison, Pike pursues them and almost kills B.A. Arrested, Pike [[FaceDeathWithDignity faces his execution at Lynch’s hands with mild annoyance at his incompetence]] before teaming up with Lynch to put an end to the team and cover their tracks. When the A-Team lures them into an ambush in a shipyard, [[HypercompetentSidekick Pike]] tries to reign in the rash Lynch before blowing up a nearby ship, throwing the team’s plan into chaos before nearly killing Face in the ensuing firefight.
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** Many of the scams Face runs to seduce women would be unacceptable today. In one episode he tricks an old flame into having sex with him knowing that she is secretly working for the military police and thinks they will arrive at any moment to arrest him (in fact he knows they have been waylaid by Hannibal and the rest of the team). In another he convinces a pair of beautiful teenage twin sisters that Hannibal is an advertising executive who can cast them in a gum commercial and they are later seen fawning over him by a poolside in skimpy bikinis.
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* ClicheStorm: Which is part of the [[JustForPun pun]]... ah fun.

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* ClicheStorm: Which is part of the [[JustForPun pun]]...{{pun}}... ah fun.
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** Tawnia Baker. While Amy did have some popularity, Tawnia was nothing but a boat anchor getting shoehorned into every situation and desperately wanting to be on the team for no reason. Despite the CharacterShilling she got, the actors themselves clearly don't want anything to do with her.Marla Heasley, the actress, later explained that from the first day she showed up on set, she was treated with hostility by George Peppard just for being a woman on what the cast felt should be an all-male ensemble. Melinda Culea, who played Amy, told a similar story of her own departure being essentially forced on her for daring to ask for something more to do and Peppard pushing heavily for her to be ejected. Both characters existed entirely because the network was concerned about airing a show with so many male main characters and ''zero'' women. Eventually, Peppard won out, but one last attempt was made at the end of season 4 to integrate Tia Carrere's character of "Tia" into the show, but Carrere dropped out due to her obligations to ''Series/GeneralHospital'' instead.

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** Tawnia Baker. While Amy did have some popularity, Tawnia was nothing but a boat anchor getting shoehorned into every situation and desperately wanting to be on the team for no reason. Despite the CharacterShilling she got, the actors themselves clearly don't want anything to do with her. Marla Heasley, the actress, later explained that from the first day she showed up on set, she was treated with hostility by George Peppard just for being a woman on what the cast felt should be an all-male ensemble. Melinda Culea, who played Amy, told a similar story of her own departure being essentially forced on her for daring to ask for something more to do and Peppard pushing heavily for her to be ejected. Both characters existed entirely because the network was concerned about airing a show with so many male main characters and ''zero'' women. Eventually, Peppard won out, but one last attempt was made at the end of season 4 to integrate Tia Carrere's character of "Tia" into the show, but Carrere dropped out due to her obligations to ''Series/GeneralHospital'' instead.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Tawnia is this to Amy. Amy at least had some fans; Tawnia was just shoved in because the networks wanted a female character and wasn't all that capable when the team was in the field.

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* ReplacementScrappy: Tawnia is this to Amy. Amy at least had some fans; Tawnia was just shoved in because the networks wanted a female character (and likely they still needed one because the scripts for the remainder of the season still required one) and wasn't all that capable when the team was in the field. This treatment apparently extended to Marla Heasley's treatment ''behind'' the scenes as well, particularly by George Peppard.



** Tawnia Baker. While Amy did have some popularity, Tawnia was nothing but a boat anchor getting shoehorned into every situation and desperately wanting to be on the team for no reason. Despite the CharacterShilling she got, the actors themselves clearly don't want anything to do with her.[[note]]Marla Heasley, the actress, later explained that from the first day she showed up on set, she was treated with hostility by George Peppard just for being a woman on what the cast felt should be an all-male ensemble. Melinda Culea, who played Amy, told a similar story of her own departure being essentially forced on her for daring to ask for something more to do and Peppard pushing heavily for her to be ejected. Both character existed entirely because the network was concerned about airing a show with so many male main characters and ''zero'' women. Eventually, Peppard won out, but one last attempt was made at the end of season 4 to integrate Tia Carrere's character of "Tia" into the show, but Carrere dropped out due to her obligations to ''Series/GeneralHospital'' instead.[[/note]]

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** Tawnia Baker. While Amy did have some popularity, Tawnia was nothing but a boat anchor getting shoehorned into every situation and desperately wanting to be on the team for no reason. Despite the CharacterShilling she got, the actors themselves clearly don't want anything to do with her.[[note]]Marla Marla Heasley, the actress, later explained that from the first day she showed up on set, she was treated with hostility by George Peppard just for being a woman on what the cast felt should be an all-male ensemble. Melinda Culea, who played Amy, told a similar story of her own departure being essentially forced on her for daring to ask for something more to do and Peppard pushing heavily for her to be ejected. Both character characters existed entirely because the network was concerned about airing a show with so many male main characters and ''zero'' women. Eventually, Peppard won out, but one last attempt was made at the end of season 4 to integrate Tia Carrere's character of "Tia" into the show, but Carrere dropped out due to her obligations to ''Series/GeneralHospital'' instead.[[/note]]



** Season 5 had this, with the A-Team being caught and forced to work for the government (and most closely with Creator/RobertVaughn), and then with the addition of [[TheScrappy Frankie Santana]], an annoying mechanic who added nothing but minimized B. A.'s role. Even the opening theme got messed with--they did away with the opening monologue altogether and changed the theme's sound from orchestral/electric guitars to an almost entirely synthesized remix. This unfortunately led to the series's cancellation.

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** Season 5 had this, with the A-Team being caught and forced to work for the government (and most closely with Creator/RobertVaughn), and then with the addition of [[TheScrappy Frankie Santana]], an annoying mechanic who added nothing but minimized B. A.'s role. Even the opening theme got messed with--they did away with the opening monologue altogether and changed the theme's sound from orchestral/electric guitars to an almost entirely synthesized remix. This unfortunately led to the series's series' cancellation.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[SeriesContinuityError Mo/Maggie]] Sullivan, the doctor from "[[Recap/TheATeamS1E6BlackDayAtBadRock Black Day at Bad Rock]]", won over a devoted section of the fanbase. She's more active and assertive than the female characters often were, and seems even to have impressed Hannibal, given that he asked Tawnia to call her in during a medical emergency. Some portion of the fanbase also enjoys the chemistry between the two of them. Unfortunately, she was only in two episodes out of the entire series.

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** If you asked George Peppard himself, he remarked in his life time that he only really felt the first season was any good, and everything after it was "boring." Why did he do the rest? In his words: [[MoneyDearBoy "(i)t's the first time I ever had money in the bank."]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: [[SeriesContinuityError Mo/Maggie]] Sullivan, the doctor from "[[Recap/TheATeamS1E6BlackDayAtBadRock Black Day at Bad Rock]]", won over a devoted section of the fanbase. She's more active and assertive than the female characters often were, and seems even to have impressed Hannibal, given that he asked Tawnia to call her in during a medical emergency. Some portion of the fanbase also enjoys the chemistry between the two of them. Unfortunately, she was only in two episodes out of the entire series.series (and George Peppard's behind-the-scenes hostility to two previous female regulars would have ensured it stayed that way.)

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** "[[Recap/TheATeamS2E4BadTimeOnTheBorder Bad Time on the Border]]": Prince and [[DirtyCop Border Patrol Lt. Jack Taggart]] run an illegal [[HumanTraffickers human smuggling]] operation. Helping desperate Mexican immigrants cross the border, Taggart robs them afterwards and keeps them in captivity. The two sell their captives as slave labor to numerous border town sweatshops, with Taggart even willing to let sick Mexicans die of illness to make more money.

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** "[[Recap/TheATeamS2E4BadTimeOnTheBorder Bad Time on the Border]]": Prince and [[DirtyCop [[OppressiveImmigrationEnforcement Border Patrol Lt. Jack Taggart]] run an illegal [[HumanTraffickers human smuggling]] operation. Helping desperate Mexican immigrants cross the border, Taggart robs them afterwards and keeps them in captivity. The two sell their captives as slave labor to numerous border town sweatshops, with Taggart even willing to let sick Mexicans die of illness to make more money.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The PeriodUpdate of the "crime The A-Team did not commit" takes place in the final U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, which at the time of the film's release was TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture and happened for real between 2020 and 2021.

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The PeriodUpdate SettingUpdate of the "crime The A-Team did not commit" takes place in the final U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, which at the time of the film's release was TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture and happened for real between 2020 and 2021.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The PeriodUpdate of the "crime The A-Team did not commit" takes place in the final U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, which at the time of the film's release was TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture and happened for real between 2020 and 2021.

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* AcceptableEthnicTargets: PlayedWith and nearly invoked, as the BigBad is apparently an Arabian business man (shemagh and huge-ass beard)... only to be neatly subverted when it is revealed that the [[spoiler:"Arab" behind everything is actually General Morrison in disguise]].
* [[Awesome/TheATeam Crowning Moment of Awesome]]
* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment of Funny]]: Found [[{{Funny/Film}} here]].
* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Crowning Music of Awesome]]: Music/AlanSilvestri nails it on several occasions, especially [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJltfRvIsKo "Flying A Tank."]] His arrangement of the Mike Post and Pete Carpenter [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMKD4Po3h7I theme]] at the end is also top. [[Film/TheDeltaForce He does of course have previous experience with a group of]] BigDamnHeroes.

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* AcceptableEthnicTargets: PlayedWith and nearly invoked, as the BigBad is apparently an Arabian business man (shemagh and huge-ass beard)... only to be neatly subverted when it is revealed that the [[spoiler:"Arab" behind everything is actually General Morrison in disguise]].
* [[Awesome/TheATeam Crowning Moment of Awesome]]
* [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Crowning Moment of Funny]]: Found [[{{Funny/Film}} here]].
* [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Crowning Music of Awesome]]:
SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Music/AlanSilvestri nails it on several occasions, especially [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJltfRvIsKo "Flying A Tank."]] His arrangement of the Mike Post and Pete Carpenter [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMKD4Po3h7I theme]] at the end is also top. [[Film/TheDeltaForce He does of course have previous experience with a group of]] BigDamnHeroes.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The "crime the A-Team did not commit" takes place during the U.S. Military's pulling out of Iraq. To make a long story short, when the film was made in 2010 the writers would not have expected the pulling out (done in 2021) would look rather eerily like the American evacuation of UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The "crime the A-Team did not commit" takes place during the U.S. Military's pulling out of Iraq. To make a long story short, when the film was made in 2010 the writers would not have expected the pulling out (done in 2021) would look rather eerily like the last days of UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar (or at least the U.S.' involvement in it).

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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The "crime the A-Team did not commit" takes place during the U.S. Military's pulling out of Iraq. To make a long story short, when the film was made in 2010 the writers would not have expected the pulling out (done in 2021) would look rather eerily like the last days American evacuation of UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar (or at least the U.S.' involvement in it).UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: The "crime the A-Team did not commit" takes place during the U.S. Military's pulling out of Iraq. To make a long story short, when the film was made in 2010 the writers would not have expected the pulling out (done in 2021) would look rather eerily like the last days of UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar (or at least the U.S.' involvement in it).
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** "[[Recap/TheATeamS5E5TheTheoryOfRevolution The Theory of Revolution]]": [[PresidentEvil President Alexander Martien]] is [[TheGeneralissimo the ruthless dictator]] of a South American nation, ruling via starvation, fear, terror, torture, and executions. Suspecting rebels, Martien opts to try to kill his way through entire villages to get to his targets. Martien likewise tries mass executions, happily selling his own country out to [[{{Greed}} personally profit]].
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** And most of the other celebrity appearances for that matter, with the worst probably being the infamous "[[Recap/TheATeamS4E16CowboyGeorge Cowboy George]]", which culminates with [[GrumpyBear B.A.]], of all people, grinning like a loon while bopping away to Music/CultureClub's musical performance. Because nothing speaks to battle-hardened war veterans like the music of a camp, cross-dressing, British pop star. And that is nothing compared to the public Culture Club ends up playing for: a bar full of rough and tumble redneck cowboys who think nothing of lynching the team when they believe they have stolen their paychecks, and were originally promised a performance by country singer Cowboy George. And they end up LOVING Boy George's music.

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** And most of the other celebrity appearances for that matter, with the worst probably being the infamous "[[Recap/TheATeamS4E16CowboyGeorge Cowboy George]]", which culminates with [[GrumpyBear B.A.]], , of all people, grinning like a loon while bopping away to Music/CultureClub's musical performance. Because nothing speaks to battle-hardened war veterans like the music of a camp, cross-dressing, British pop star. And that is nothing compared to the public Culture Club ends up playing for: a bar full of rough and tumble redneck cowboys who think nothing of lynching the team when they believe they have stolen their paychecks, and were originally promised a performance by country singer Cowboy George. And they end up LOVING Boy George's music.

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** "Bad Time on the Border": Prince and [[DirtyCop Border Patrol Lt. Jack Taggart]] run an illegal [[HumanTraffickers human smuggling]] operation. Helping desperate Mexican immigrants cross the border, Taggart robs them afterwards and keeps them in captivity. The two sell their captives as slave labor to numerous border town sweatshops, with Taggart even willing to let sick Mexicans die of illness to make more money.
** "The A-Team Is Coming, The A-Team Is Coming": [[RogueSoldier Colonel Ivan "The Terrible" Padovich]] is a [[RenegadeRussian rogue Russian soldier]] who even the Soviet Union despises. Having gotten his nickname during his time in [[UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar Vietnam]] by [[SociopathicSoldier slaughtering several villages]], Ivan hides in Los Angeles with plans to gain control of the Braxus satellite, which he'll use to blow up several Russian missiles and commence WorldWarIII. Willing to kill his own men should they go against his orders, Ivan leads a raid against the military base guarding the satellite controls, killing plenty of soldiers in the process.
** "The Crystal Skull": [[SiblingsInCrime Brothers Marino and Francisco]] are a pair of [[BadHabits mercenaries disguised as monks]] assigned to acquire an island's diamonds. Taking over the Toga Toga tribe by threatening their leader with death, Marino and Francisco have tribesmen from the rival Toga tribe kidnapped and [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslaved]], forcing them to work in the diamond mine under harsh conditions, even having them frequently [[ATasteOfTheLash whipped as punishment]].

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** "Bad "[[Recap/TheATeamS2E4BadTimeOnTheBorder Bad Time on the Border": Border]]": Prince and [[DirtyCop Border Patrol Lt. Jack Taggart]] run an illegal [[HumanTraffickers human smuggling]] operation. Helping desperate Mexican immigrants cross the border, Taggart robs them afterwards and keeps them in captivity. The two sell their captives as slave labor to numerous border town sweatshops, with Taggart even willing to let sick Mexicans die of illness to make more money.
** "The A-Team Is Coming, "[[Recap/TheATeamS4E14TheATeamIsComingTheATeamIsComing The A-Team Is Coming": is Coming! The A-Team is Coming!]]": [[RogueSoldier Colonel Ivan "The Terrible" Padovich]] is a [[RenegadeRussian rogue Russian soldier]] who even the Soviet Union despises. Having gotten his nickname during his time in [[UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar Vietnam]] by [[SociopathicSoldier slaughtering several villages]], Ivan hides in Los Angeles with plans to gain control of the Braxus satellite, which he'll use to blow up several Russian missiles and commence WorldWarIII. Willing to kill his own men should they go against his orders, Ivan leads a raid against the military base guarding the satellite controls, killing plenty of soldiers in the process.
** "The "[[Recap/TheATeamS5E10TheCrystalSkull The Crystal Skull": Skull]]": [[SiblingsInCrime Brothers Marino and Francisco]] are a pair of [[BadHabits mercenaries disguised as monks]] assigned to acquire an island's diamonds. Taking over the Toga Toga tribe by threatening their leader with death, Marino and Francisco have tribesmen from the rival Toga tribe kidnapped and [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslaved]], forcing them to work in the diamond mine under harsh conditions, even having them frequently [[ATasteOfTheLash whipped as punishment]].
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** "Bad Time on the Border": Prince and [[DirtyCop Border Patrol Lt. Jack Taggart]] run an illegal [[HumanTraffickers human smuggling]] operation. Helping desperate Mexican immigrants cross the border, Taggart robs them afterwards and keeps them in captivity. The two sell their captives as slave labor to numerous border town sweatshops, with Taggart even willing to let sick Mexicans die of illness to make more money.
** "The A-Team Is Coming, The A-Team Is Coming": [[RogueSoldier Colonel Ivan "The Terrible" Padovich]] is a [[RenegadeRussian rogue Russian soldier]] who even the Soviet Union despises. Having gotten his nickname during his time in [[UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar Vietnam]] by [[SociopathicSoldier slaughtering several villages]], Ivan hides in Los Angeles with plans to gain control of the Braxus satellite, which he'll use to blow up several Russian missiles and commence WorldWarIII. Willing to kill his own men should they go against his orders, Ivan leads a raid against the military base guarding the satellite controls, killing plenty of soldiers in the process.
** "The Crystal Skull": [[SiblingsInCrime Brothers Marino and Francisco]] are a pair of [[BadHabits mercenaries disguised as monks]] assigned to acquire an island's diamonds. Taking over the Toga Toga tribe by threatening their leader with death, Marino and Francisco have tribesmen from the rival Toga tribe kidnapped and [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil enslaved]], forcing them to work in the diamond mine under harsh conditions, even having them frequently [[ATasteOfTheLash whipped as punishment]].

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: A joke by Murdock in "[[Recap/TheATeamS2E10WaterWaterEverywhere Water, Water Everywhere]]" where he brags about his matchmaking capabilities references his success with Princess Diana and Prince Charles, at the time recently married.



* HarsherInHindsight: A joke by Murdock in "[[Recap/TheATeamS2E10WaterWaterEverywhere Water, Water Everywhere]]" where he brags about his matchmaking capabilities references his success with Princess Diana and Prince Charles, at the time recently married.



* WorthyOpponent: Much how the team and Col. Decker view each other.

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* WorthyOpponent: Much how the team and Col. Decker view each other.
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* WorthyOpponent: Much how the team and Col. Decker view each other.
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* HoYay: These days, you could look back and spot quite a bit of it, especially between Hannibal and Face, Face and Murdock, and Murdock and B. A. (which might border on FoeYay at times).

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* HoYay: These days, you could look back and spot quite a bit of it, especially between Hannibal and Face, Face and Murdock, and Murdock and B. A. (which might border on FoeYay at times). A..
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: For all its cartoony violence, the film was pitched at a family audience. The same cannot be said of the big-screen remake which was PG-13 rated and full of people actually getting killed.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: For all its cartoony violence, the film series was pitched at a family audience. The same cannot be said of the big-screen remake which was PG-13 rated and full of people actually getting killed.
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