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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: In the original DS edition of the game, Shadar comes off this way at the end when [[spoiler: his sad backstory is revealed and along with it the fact that he was trying to protect the world and its people, as his reign of [[MindRape mind-raping]] terror prevented wars from starting, and the game acts as though this was a good thing and that Shadar’s only problem was keeping it going too long rather than doing it at all!]] The [=PS3=] version fixes this by [[spoiler: having everything Shadar did be at the White Witch’s directive instead of his own, and doing it in the hopes of helping the world being only a subconscious desire on Shadar’s part all while he consciously admits that it’s wrong and hurtful.]]
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* EndingFatigue: In the [=PS3=] version, the White Witch's role in the plot can feel this way. Oliver's emotional journey reachs a good climax, everything seems resolved...then the story takes a huge detour for the White Witch before it can actually reach its end.

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* EndingFatigue: In the [=PS3=] version, the White Witch's role in the plot can feel this way. Oliver's emotional journey reachs a good climax, everything seems resolved...then the story takes a huge detour for the White Witch before it can actually reach its end. If the White Witch and her council hadn’t had several scenes earlier in the game (and this version of the game not been subtitled “Wrath of the White Witch”), it would feel like this last segment came completely out of nowhere.
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* EndingFatigue: In the Switch version, the White Witch's role in the plot can feel this way. Oliver's emotional journey reachs a good climax, everything seems resolved...then the story takes a huge detour for the White Witch before it can actually reach its end. Part of this is likely because it was originally DLC put into in the main story.

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* EndingFatigue: In the Switch [=PS3=] version, the White Witch's role in the plot can feel this way. Oliver's emotional journey reachs a good climax, everything seems resolved...then the story takes a huge detour for the White Witch before it can actually reach its end. Part of this is likely because it was originally DLC put into in the main story.
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** It was always clear Shadar was not a nice guy, but you truly start to hate him after finding out what he did to Rashaad and Esther. Basically, he forced Rashaad into being a RetiredBadass by doing the following: first, he steals his daughter's courage and turns her into a Brokenhearted. Now the guy can't bring himself to do anything for fear of her being hurt further. But it doesn't stop there. To ensure her heart is not just broken, but outright ''closed'', he goes after Esther's AlternateSelf Myrtle in the Otherworld. He {{Mind Rape}}s her father (also Rashaad's Sould Mate) into becoming a {{Domestic Abuse}}r, which traumatises her so much she becomes a {{Hikikomori}}. All this to elimanate someone who could ''possibly'' become a threat to him later.

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** It was always clear Shadar was not a nice guy, but you truly start to hate him after finding out what he did to Rashaad and Esther. Basically, he forced Rashaad into being a RetiredBadass by doing the following: first, he steals his daughter's courage and turns her into a Brokenhearted. Now the guy can't bring himself to do anything for fear of her being hurt further. But it doesn't stop there. To ensure her heart is not just broken, but outright ''closed'', he goes after Esther's AlternateSelf Myrtle in the Otherworld. He {{Mind Rape}}s her father (also Rashaad's Sould Mate) into becoming a {{Domestic Abuse}}r, which traumatises her so much she becomes a {{Hikikomori}}. All this to elimanate eliminate someone who could ''possibly'' become a threat to him later.

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* MoralEventHorizon: It was always clear Shadar was not a nice guy, but you truly start to hate him after finding out what he did to Rashaad and Esther. Basically, he forced Rashaad into being a RetiredBadass by doing the following: first, he steals his daughter's courage and turns her into a Brokenhearted. Now the guy can't bring himself to do anything for fear of her being hurt further. But it doesn't stop there. To ensure her heart is not just broken, but outright ''closed'', he goes after Esther's AlternateSelf Myrtle in the Otherworld. He {{Mind Rape}}s her father (also Rashaad's Sould Mate) into becoming a {{Domestic Abuse}}r, which traumatises her so much she becomes a {{Hikikomori}}. All this to elimanate someone who could ''possibly'' become a threat to him later.

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It was always clear Shadar was not a nice guy, but you truly start to hate him after finding out what he did to Rashaad and Esther. Basically, he forced Rashaad into being a RetiredBadass by doing the following: first, he steals his daughter's courage and turns her into a Brokenhearted. Now the guy can't bring himself to do anything for fear of her being hurt further. But it doesn't stop there. To ensure her heart is not just broken, but outright ''closed'', he goes after Esther's AlternateSelf Myrtle in the Otherworld. He {{Mind Rape}}s her father (also Rashaad's Sould Mate) into becoming a {{Domestic Abuse}}r, which traumatises her so much she becomes a {{Hikikomori}}. All this to elimanate someone who could ''possibly'' become a threat to him later.
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%%* {{Moe}}: Pea.

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%%* * {{Moe}}: Pea. Pea is extremely childlike and adorable.
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** The BonusBoss, [[spoiler:Guardian Of Worlds]]. The only reason being that it ''doesn't have'' the [[ThatOneAttack cinematic attack that]] ''all the previous bosses'' have. He ''does'' get stronger in subsequent fights though, and his Great Divider attack can instantly kill weak party members.

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** The BonusBoss, OptionalBoss [[spoiler:Guardian Of Worlds]]. The only reason being that it ''doesn't have'' the [[ThatOneAttack cinematic attack that]] ''all the previous bosses'' have. He ''does'' get stronger in subsequent fights though, and his Great Divider attack can instantly kill weak party members.



** [[spoiler: Khulan's]] Nightmare can be a real [[JustForPun nightmare]]. Not only does it inflict status ailments such as Poison on you, it spams its ultimate attack over and over. It also hits hard and will trip up lower leveled players if you aren't careful.

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** [[spoiler: Khulan's]] Nightmare can be a real [[JustForPun [[{{Pun}} nightmare]]. Not only does it inflict status ailments such as Poison on you, it spams its ultimate attack over and over. It also hits hard and will trip up lower leveled players if you aren't careful.
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* The Zodiarchy is blatantly a DeadlyDecadentCourt [[TheMagocracy of Mages]], given how they and the White Witch are the power directing Shadar. It's only once you learn their backstory that you realize just ''how'' bad they are. Suffice to say, the Council is not above [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans regicide, abuse, gaslighting, and letting their own subjects starve if it means they rule as they see fit]].

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* ** The Zodiarchy is blatantly a DeadlyDecadentCourt [[TheMagocracy of Mages]], given how they and the White Witch are the power directing Shadar. It's only once you learn their backstory that you realize just ''how'' bad they are. Suffice to say, the Council is not above [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans regicide, abuse, gaslighting, and letting their own subjects starve if it means they rule as they see fit]].

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* The Zodiarchy is blatantly a DeadlyDecadentCourt [[TheMagocracy of Mages]], given how they and the White Witch are the power directing Shadar. It's only once you learn their backstory that you realize just ''how'' bad they are. Suffice to say, the Council is not above [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans regicide, abuse, gaslighting, and letting their own subjects starve if it means they rule as they see fit]].



*** Not to mention what they represent - [[GreaterScopeVillain the miscreants who ruined everything for everyone]]. As mentioned in Alternate Character Interpretation above, either they're a {{Tulpa}} born of [[RealityWarper Cassiopea's]] trauma, or are ''the genuine original council'' that somehow put themselves into her mind before their deaths to maintain their control over her. Either way, [[SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome ending them once and for all]] makes for some damn good closure.

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*** Not [[spoiler:Not to mention what they represent - [[GreaterScopeVillain the miscreants who ruined everything for everyone]]. As mentioned in Alternate Character Interpretation above, either they're a {{Tulpa}} born of [[RealityWarper Cassiopea's]] trauma, or are ''the genuine original council'' that somehow put themselves into her mind before their deaths to maintain their control over her. Either way, [[SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome ending them once and for all]] makes for some damn good closure. ]]
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*** Not to mention what they represent - [[GreaterScopeVillain the miscreants who ruined everything for everyone]]. As mentioned in Alternate Character Interpretation above, either they're a {{Tulpa}} born of [[RealityWarper Cassiopea's]] trauma, or are ''the genuine original council'' that somehow put themselves into her mind before their deaths to maintain their control over her. Either way, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome destroying them to permanently end their reign]] makes for some damn good closure.

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*** Not to mention what they represent - [[GreaterScopeVillain the miscreants who ruined everything for everyone]]. As mentioned in Alternate Character Interpretation above, either they're a {{Tulpa}} born of [[RealityWarper Cassiopea's]] trauma, or are ''the genuine original council'' that somehow put themselves into her mind before their deaths to maintain their control over her. Either way, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome destroying [[SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome ending them to permanently end their reign]] once and for all]] makes for some damn good closure.
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*** Not to mention what they represent - [[GreaterScopeVillain the miscreants who ruined everything for everyone]]. As mentioned in Alternate Character Interpretation above, either they're a {{Tulpa}} born of [[RealityWarper Cassiopea's]] trauma, or are ''the genuine original council'' that somehow put themselves into her mind before their deaths to maintain their control over her. Either way, [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome destroying them to permanently end their reign]] makes for some damn good closure.
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* SoOkayItsAverage: The animation is excellent and Joe Hisaishi turns in a great score, but the plot and characters are underdeveloped despite some good ideas.
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* EndingFatigue: In the Switch version, the White Witch's role in the plot can feel this way. Oliver's emotional journey reachs a good climax, everything seems resolved...then the story takes a huge detour for the White Witch before it can actually reach its end. Part of this is likely because it was originally DLC put into in the main story.

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