History YMMV / NiNoKuni

22nd Jul '16 11:04:47 AM Morgenthaler
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** [[VileVillainSaccharineShow Shadar in general is this, really.]] He's an incredibly powerful EvilSorceror who's TheDreaded just about everywhere, for good reason: this guy can essentially MindRape you whenever he feels like it. He's DangerouslyGenreSavvy about it too, using his power to remove Enthusiasm and Courage to ensure any attempt at LaResistance is nipped in the bud before it can even ''begin''. And if you're a ''real'' threat, he'll make sure you never stand up to him again by ''turning your loved ones against you''. He's also not above going after your Soul Mate in the Otherworld too. Yeah, this guy is basically ParanoiaFuel personified.

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** [[VileVillainSaccharineShow Shadar in general is this, really.]] He's an incredibly powerful EvilSorceror who's TheDreaded just about everywhere, for good reason: this guy can essentially MindRape you whenever he feels like it. He's DangerouslyGenreSavvy pretty smart about it too, using his power to remove Enthusiasm and Courage to ensure any attempt at LaResistance is nipped in the bud before it can even ''begin''. And if you're a ''real'' threat, he'll make sure you never stand up to him again by ''turning your loved ones against you''. He's also not above going after your Soul Mate in the Otherworld too. Yeah, this guy is basically ParanoiaFuel personified.
28th Jun '16 6:05:25 AM longWriter
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* AnnoyingVideoGameHelper:
** Drippy's advice can sometimes invoke this trope. It's also not uncommon for him to stop a boss fight to give a hint in the middle of one of your spells or skills, thus ''negating your attack and wasting your magic''.
** The tutorials as well. You realize [[ThisIsGonnaSuck how bad it's going to be]] when you've been walking around and exploring for about half an hour when you suddenly get a tutorial ''telling you how to walk''.



* StopHelpingMe:
** Drippy's advice can sometimes invoke this trope. It's also not uncommon for him to stop a boss fight to give a hint in the middle of one of your spells or skills, thus ''negating your attack and wasting your magic''.
** The tutorials as well. You realize [[ThisIsGonnaSuck how bad it's going to be]] when you've been walking around and exploring for about half an hour when you suddenly get a tutorial ''telling you how to walk''.
22nd May '16 6:04:35 PM nombretomado
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Combined with NoExportForYou. The DS version isn't very well known outside of its native country, and those who have played the DS version often say the PS3 version is the better one due to the AdaptationExpansion or just feeling more "Ghibli-esque" in its beautiful animations.

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* AdaptationDisplacement: Combined with NoExportForYou. The DS version isn't very well known outside of its native country, and those who have played the DS version often say the PS3 [=PS3=] version is the better one due to the AdaptationExpansion or just feeling more "Ghibli-esque" in its beautiful animations.



* DisappointingLastLevel: Understandable, given that the game ended with the defeat of Shadar in the original version, but the PS3's new White Witch arc is basically three very short [[DungeonTown Dungeon Towns]] (which you've already visited), a bunch of very heavy-handed [[InfoDump Info Dumps]] explaining [[spoiler: Cassiopeia]]'s backstory, then bam, TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon. Worse, the new party member you get turns out to be [[TheLoad pretty useless.]] They just could have done so much more. The FinalDungeon itself, and the [[BestBossEver final boss battles]] arguably make up for it though.

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* DisappointingLastLevel: Understandable, given that the game ended with the defeat of Shadar in the original version, but the PS3's [=PS3=]'s new White Witch arc is basically three very short [[DungeonTown Dungeon Towns]] (which you've already visited), a bunch of very heavy-handed [[InfoDump Info Dumps]] explaining [[spoiler: Cassiopeia]]'s backstory, then bam, TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon. Worse, the new party member you get turns out to be [[TheLoad pretty useless.]] They just could have done so much more. The FinalDungeon itself, and the [[BestBossEver final boss battles]] arguably make up for it though.



* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: While its sales numbers do not diverge widely between countries (due to the "children's [[EasternRPG JRPG]] stigma", you could say), Western players and critics are much more enamored with ''White Witch'' than Japan. There are two reasons for that: first, Eastern [=RPGs=] are becoming steadily more scarce in the West, especially on consoles, so a big-budgeted one for the PS3 like ''Ni no Kuni'' draws attention. Secondly, and more importantly, Japan was "burned" by ''Jet-Black Mage'' back when it was released. Level-5 promised that the two games would be widely different and also complementary to one another, but they only had very minimal differences in terms of plot and gameplay (putting it another way, they were promised ''[[VideoGame/{{Persona2}} Persona 2]]'', but got ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Pokémon Crystal]])''. Those who bought the original (and they were many, it sold ''really'' well) didn't want to buy the same game twice, and critics couldn't quite "forgive" it. However, since that version was never released in the West, ''White Witch'' became much more unique in Westerners' eyes and could be judged (and sold) as its own, standalone title. It seems to have paid off.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: While its sales numbers do not diverge widely between countries (due to the "children's [[EasternRPG JRPG]] stigma", you could say), Western players and critics are much more enamored with ''White Witch'' than Japan. There are two reasons for that: first, Eastern [=RPGs=] are becoming steadily more scarce in the West, especially on consoles, so a big-budgeted one for the PS3 [=PS3=] like ''Ni no Kuni'' draws attention. Secondly, and more importantly, Japan was "burned" by ''Jet-Black Mage'' back when it was released. Level-5 promised that the two games would be widely different and also complementary to one another, but they only had very minimal differences in terms of plot and gameplay (putting it another way, they were promised ''[[VideoGame/{{Persona2}} Persona 2]]'', ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}'', but got ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Pokémon Crystal]])''. Those who bought the original (and they were many, it sold ''really'' well) didn't want to buy the same game twice, and critics couldn't quite "forgive" it. However, since that version was never released in the West, ''White Witch'' became much more unique in Westerners' eyes and could be judged (and sold) as its own, standalone title. It seems to have paid off.
8th Jan '16 6:48:17 PM nombretomado
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The music is ''fantastic,'' fully orchestrated even on the DS. But given that this is Joe Hisaishi--the composer behind ''SpiritedAway'' and ''Anime/PrincessMononoke,'' among others--it's clear why this is the case.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The music is ''fantastic,'' fully orchestrated even on the DS. But given that this is Joe Hisaishi--the composer behind ''SpiritedAway'' ''Anime/SpiritedAway'' and ''Anime/PrincessMononoke,'' among others--it's clear why this is the case.
19th Dec '15 12:12:11 PM salvadorfranz
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Drippy gets one after TheReveal that [[spoiler: Alicia and Aille are the same person and he knew it all along.]] Did he manipulate a boy to go on an adventure, fully knowing that despite being able to save the world, [[spoiler: he still won't be able to fulfill his personal quest of resurrecting his mom]], or did he genuinely thought that he could help out Oliver in his travels?
7th Dec '15 6:10:59 PM tropower
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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: [[spoiler: If you're loved ones die, they can't be brought back,]] and there's nothing you can do about it, so you have to accept it.[[note]]For many people, "accept" is a subjective term.[[/note]]
25th Oct '15 8:41:06 PM nombretomado
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* HilariousInHindSight: A BlackComedy example for PuellaMagiMadokaMagica fans who watched the series before playing this game. [[spoiler: Shadar and Cassiopia turn into witches ((literately) after falling to despair]].

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* HilariousInHindSight: A BlackComedy example for PuellaMagiMadokaMagica ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' fans who watched the series before playing this game. [[spoiler: Shadar and Cassiopia turn into witches ((literately) after falling to despair]].
24th Oct '15 7:21:43 PM nombretomado
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The music is ''fantastic,'' fully orchestrated even on the DS. But given that this is Joe Hisaishi--the composer behind ''SpiritedAway'' and ''PrincessMononoke,'' among others--it's clear why this is the case.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The music is ''fantastic,'' fully orchestrated even on the DS. But given that this is Joe Hisaishi--the composer behind ''SpiritedAway'' and ''PrincessMononoke,'' ''Anime/PrincessMononoke,'' among others--it's clear why this is the case.
1st Oct '15 12:24:01 PM Berrenta
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** [[spoiler: The second fight with Vileheart]] is a [[InvokedTrope deliberate]] case of this, to [[CurbStompBattle empowering]] and [[AwesomeMoments awesome]] effect. [[spoiler: Oliver [[HesBack finally comes out of his]] HeroicBSOD after learning [[WhamEpisode the truth about Alicia.]] The pureness of his heart]] unlocks an EleventhHourSuperpower that is [[ForMassiveDamage EXTREMELY]] effective against the boss. Cue ThemeMusicPowerUp and major CurbStompBattle.

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** [[spoiler: The second fight with Vileheart]] is a [[InvokedTrope deliberate]] case of this, to [[CurbStompBattle empowering]] and [[AwesomeMoments awesome]] effect. [[spoiler: Oliver [[HesBack finally comes out of his]] HeroicBSOD after learning [[WhamEpisode the truth about Alicia.]] The pureness of his heart]] unlocks an EleventhHourSuperpower that is [[ForMassiveDamage [[AchillesHeel EXTREMELY]] effective against the boss. Cue ThemeMusicPowerUp and major CurbStompBattle.



* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: While its sales numbers do not diverge widely between countries (due to the "children's [[EasternRPG JRPG]] stigma", you could say), Western players and critics are much more enamored with ''White Witch'' than Japan. There are two reasons for that: first, Eastern [=RPGs=] are becoming steadily more scarce in the West, especially on consoles, so a big-budgeted one for the PS3 like ''Ni no Kuni'' draws attention. Secondly, and more importantly, Japan was "burned" by ''Jet-Black Mage'' back when it was released. Level-5 promised that the two games would be widely different and also complementary to one another, but they only had very minimal differences in terms of plot and gameplay (putting it another way, they were promised ''[[VideoGame/{{Persona2}} Persona 2]]'', but got ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Pokémon Crystal]])''. Those who bought the original (and they were many, it sold ''really'' well) didn't want to buy the same game twice, and critics couldn't quite "forgive" it. However, since that version was never released in the West, ''White Witch'' became much more unique in Westerners' eyes and could be judged (and sold) as its own, standalone title. It seems to have paid off.



** If a Miracle Move is used at the ''exact'' moment certain [[SequentialBoss Sequential Bosses]] are changing forms, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1u2gq6Rbpc this]] [[ZeroEffortBoss happens.]]

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** If a Miracle Move is used at the ''exact'' moment certain [[SequentialBoss Sequential Bosses]] {{Sequential Boss}}es are changing forms, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1u2gq6Rbpc this]] [[ZeroEffortBoss happens.]]



* MoralEventHorizon: It was always clear Shadar was not a nice guy, but you truly start to hate him after finding out what he did to Rashaad and Esther. Basically, he forced Rashaad into being a RetiredBadass by doing the following: first, he steals his daughter's courage and turns her into a Brokenhearted. Now the guy can't bring himself to do anything for fear of her being hurt further. But it doesn't stop there. To ensure her heart is not just broken, but outright ''closed'', he goes after Esther's AlternateSelf Myrtle in the Otherworld. He [[MindRape Mind Rapes]] her father (also Rashaad's Sould Mate) into becoming a DomesticAbuser, which traumatises her so much she becomes a {{Hikikomori}}. All this to elimanate someone who could ''possibly'' become a threat to him later.

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* MoralEventHorizon: It was always clear Shadar was not a nice guy, but you truly start to hate him after finding out what he did to Rashaad and Esther. Basically, he forced Rashaad into being a RetiredBadass by doing the following: first, he steals his daughter's courage and turns her into a Brokenhearted. Now the guy can't bring himself to do anything for fear of her being hurt further. But it doesn't stop there. To ensure her heart is not just broken, but outright ''closed'', he goes after Esther's AlternateSelf Myrtle in the Otherworld. He [[MindRape Mind Rapes]] {{Mind Rape}}s her father (also Rashaad's Sould Mate) into becoming a DomesticAbuser, which traumatises her so much she becomes a {{Hikikomori}}. All this to elimanate someone who could ''possibly'' become a threat to him later.



** Some of the puzzles too are ''much'' more difficult than you'd expect from a non-puzzle game. (Then again, since {{Level5}} worked on this, [[ProfessorLayton it's probably to be expected]]) In particular, the Trial of Friendship in the Temple of Trials is essentially DoublePlay, though as a actual mandatory story quest rather than a SelfImposedChallenge!

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** Some of the puzzles too are ''much'' more difficult than you'd expect from a non-puzzle game. (Then again, since {{Level5}} worked on this, [[ProfessorLayton [[Franchise/ProfessorLayton it's probably to be expected]]) In particular, the Trial of Friendship in the Temple of Trials is essentially DoublePlay, though as a actual mandatory story quest rather than a SelfImposedChallenge!



* ThatOneBoss: The Royal Jelly, a FlunkyBoss who swarms you with Jelly Babies with its [[LiteralMetaphor Baby Shower]] attack, which can very easily overwhelm you (Thankfully, it stops attacking for a few seconds after it does this). Add the fact that [[HerdHittingAttack Herd Hitting Attacks]] are in short supply at this point and... yeah. Thankfully, Drippy's Mother gives you several spells for defeating it.

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* ThatOneBoss: The Royal Jelly, a FlunkyBoss who swarms you with Jelly Babies with its [[LiteralMetaphor Baby Shower]] attack, which can very easily overwhelm you (Thankfully, it stops attacking for a few seconds after it does this). Add the fact that [[HerdHittingAttack Herd {{Herd Hitting Attacks]] Attack}}s are in short supply at this point and... yeah. Thankfully, Drippy's Mother gives you several spells for defeating it.



* [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff Westerners Love Wrath Of The White Witch]]: While its sales numbers do not diverge widely between countries (due to the "children's [[EasternRPG JRPG]] stigma", you could say), Western players and critics are much more enamored with ''White Witch'' than Japan. There are two reasons for that: first, Eastern [=RPGs=] are becoming steadily more scarce in the West, especially on consoles, so a big-budgeted one for the PS3 like ''Ni no Kuni'' draws attention. Secondly, and more importantly, Japan was "burned" by ''Jet-Black Mage'' back when it was released. Level-5 promised that the two games would be widely different and also complementary to one another, but they only had very minimal differences in terms of plot and gameplay (putting it another way, they were promised ''[[VideoGame/{{Persona2}} Persona 2]]'', but got ''[[VideoGame/PokemonGoldAndSilver Pokémon Crystal]])''. Those who bought the original (and they were many, it sold ''really'' well) didn't want to buy the same game twice, and critics couldn't quite "forgive" it. However, since that version was never released in the West, ''White Witch'' became much more unique in Westerners' eyes and could be judged (and sold) as its own, standalone title. It seems to have paid off.
11th Jul '15 8:00:12 AM SapphireBlue
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* GeniusBonus: Shadar is the name of a star in the Cassiopeia constellation. Make of that what you will.
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