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** Bird Boy is probably the most extreme, being an imbecilic half-animal who derailed the book into whacky antics and over-eating. He's actually one of the most-accurate in-continuity versions of the Jackovasaurs from ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. At least he was rapidly PutOnABus.
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** Bird Boy is probably the most extreme, being an imbecilic half-animal who derailed the book into whacky antics and over-eating. He's actually one of the most-accurate in-continuity versions of the Jackovasaurs Jakovasaurs from ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark''. At least he was rapidly PutOnABus.
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Not the trope. Hollywood Homely is when the audience is meant to consider a character unattractive, despite them being attractive or average-looking by most people's standards. As this entry notes: the Morlocks see Skids as hideous because she looks different from them; the audience was never meant to consider her unattractive.
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* HollywoodHomely: Skids was considered "ugly" by the morlocks. This, of course, is because the Morlocks are all hideous and consider her a freak among freaks.
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%%** Between Shatterstar and Rictor.
%%** Illyana towards Kitty.
%%** Between Shatterstar and Rictor.
%%** Illyana towards Kitty.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The transition from New Mutants to X-Force. And later the de-Simonson/Liefeldization of the franchise under Zeb Wells.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The transition from New Mutants to X-Force. And later The team lost several of its key members (such as Magik, Moonstar, and Wolfsbane), it replaced them with morally questionable or (in Feral's case) sociopathic members, and they started being promoted as an ultra-violent and militaristic alternative to the de-Simonson/Liefeldization X-Men. On the villain front, the relatively likeable and reasonably sane Hellions were replaced with the ultra-violent and unhinged members of the franchise under Zeb Wells.Mutant Liberation Front. Given these changes, several fans of the New Mutants hated X-Force with a passion.
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%%** Cable, though he did get RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap later on.
%%* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The transition from New Mutants to X-Force. And later the de-Simonson/Liefeldization of the franchise under Zeb Wells.
%%* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The transition from New Mutants to X-Force. And later the de-Simonson/Liefeldization of the franchise under Zeb Wells.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The transition from New Mutants to X-Force. And later the de-Simonson/Liefeldization of the franchise under Zeb Wells.
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%%** If there's one constant with Karma it's that life seems to find a way of crapping all over her and her specifically.
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%%* TheWoobie: Rahne. A couple of her old teammates have had worse backstories, but few radiate ''please hug me'' as much as she when they are down over it.
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Zero Context Examples (don't explain the reason for the hatred or how it affected the franchise; don't explain why the reader should feel sorry for Rahne and Karma).
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** Cable, though he did get RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap later on.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The transition from New Mutants to X-Force. And later the de-Simonson/Liefeldization of the franchise under Zeb Wells.
* TheWoobie: Rahne. A couple of her old teammates have had worse backstories, but few radiate ''please hug me'' as much as she when they are down over it.
** If there's one constant with Karma it's that life seems to find a way of crapping all over her and her specifically.
* TheWoobie: Rahne. A couple of her old teammates have had worse backstories, but few radiate ''please hug me'' as much as she when they are down over it.
** If there's one constant with Karma it's that life seems to find a way of crapping all over her and her specifically.
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%%* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The transition from New Mutants to X-Force. And later the de-Simonson/Liefeldization of the franchise under Zeb Wells.
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Natter. If the preceding example is not valid, it should just be deleted.
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** Cypher too, but his death was an AlasPoorScrappy moment and since his return, he's been RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap.
*** It should be mentioned that only a few ''very'' vocal fans actually hated the kid, as most found him inoffensive yet likeable enough that they really didn't care that he couldn't do much in a fight without Warlock, which is why his death brought with it an outpouring of upset fans.
*** It should be mentioned that only a few ''very'' vocal fans actually hated the kid, as most found him inoffensive yet likeable enough that they really didn't care that he couldn't do much in a fight without Warlock, which is why his death brought with it an outpouring of upset fans.
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Cutting Word Cruft. Fixing indentations. The last example is written in a manner that suggests it's a shoehorn ("Arguably").
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* MoralEventHorizon: Pierce crosses this several times in the New Mutants origin story alone. Examples are ordering the death of Dani's grandfather and having his men trying to kill each of the New Mutants who were, at the time, teenagers who had only just discovered their powers.
** The Ani-Mator also crossed this by killing Cypher.
** Empath, when he used his powers to take advantage of various people, whether personally or by proxy, in the original Claremont books.
*** And in this connection, arguably Roulette, as well, who wasn't horrified, but rather ''[[LackOfEmpathy amused]]'', when he used those powers on [[IncorruptiblePurePureness Firestar]].
** The Ani-Mator also crossed this by killing Cypher.
** Empath, when he used his powers to take advantage of various people, whether personally or by proxy, in the original Claremont books.
*** And in this connection, arguably Roulette, as well, who wasn't horrified, but rather ''[[LackOfEmpathy amused]]'', when he used those powers on [[IncorruptiblePurePureness Firestar]].
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* MoralEventHorizon: Pierce crosses this several times MoralEventHorizon:
** Pierce, in the New Mutants originstory alone. Examples are ordering story, orders the death of Dani's grandfather and having has his men trying try to kill each of the New Mutants who were, at the time, teenagers who had only just discovered their powers.
** The Ani-Matoralso crossed this proves he is irredeemable by killing Cypher.
**Empath, when he Empath used his powers to take advantage of various people, whether personally or by proxy, in the original Claremont books.
*** And in this connection, arguably Roulette, as well, who wasn't horrified, but rather ''[[LackOfEmpathy amused]]'', when he used those powers on [[IncorruptiblePurePureness Firestar]].books.
** Pierce, in the New Mutants origin
** The Ani-Mator
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*** And in this connection, arguably Roulette, as well, who wasn't horrified, but rather ''[[LackOfEmpathy amused]]'', when he used those powers on [[IncorruptiblePurePureness Firestar]].
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No context, just names some arcs instead of specific moments.
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* NightmareFuel: The Demon Bear Saga.
** Empath, given the stunts he pulls in New Mutants and later on, in New Warriors and Uncanny X-Men
* TheScrappy:
** Empath, given the stunts he pulls in New Mutants and later on, in New Warriors and Uncanny X-Men
* TheScrappy:
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** Empath, given the stunts he pulls in New Mutants and later on, in New Warriors and Uncanny X-Men
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Neither example has much context, and a trope called Moment of Awesome cannot be used to describe an entire series, or be used to gush over the writer.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: '''ComicBook/TheDemonBearSaga''', for both Danielle Moonstar and the creative team themselves.
** The Magus is probably among the most powerful foes any X-team has ''ever'' faced, and the New Mutants squad, the Professor, and a cosmically-powered Carol Danvers ended up stopping him. And ''Doug Ramsey'' was the guy who won the battle.
** The Magus is probably among the most powerful foes any X-team has ''ever'' faced, and the New Mutants squad, the Professor, and a cosmically-powered Carol Danvers ended up stopping him. And ''Doug Ramsey'' was the guy who won the battle.
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Hiding ZCEs and deleting misuse: If there is clear subtext, it's not this trope. The example about Warlock looks like a shoehorn, since it argues that the character doesn't have a gender to begin with.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Several
** Young X-Men is considered this, both by fans and Marvel, given how Marc Guggenheim didn't give a fuck and pissed off Kyle and Yost and fans of New X-Men/New Mutants with the stories he wrote.
** Boom Boom/Cannonball's relationship falls into this with the Wells/Carey/Abnett and Lanning run.
** Pretty much X-Force falls into this for hardcore New Mutant fans, which led to the Well New Mutants series getting hated on, by those who were pissed off that certain members (Boom Boom and Rictor) were not allowed near the book and generally ignored.
** Young X-Men is considered this, both by fans and Marvel, given how Marc Guggenheim didn't give a fuck and pissed off Kyle and Yost and fans of New X-Men/New Mutants with the stories he wrote.
** Boom Boom/Cannonball's relationship falls into this with the Wells/Carey/Abnett and Lanning run.
** Pretty much X-Force falls into this for hardcore New Mutant fans, which led to the Well New Mutants series getting hated on, by those who were pissed off that certain members (Boom Boom and Rictor) were not allowed near the book and generally ignored.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: Several
FanonDiscontinuity:
** Young X-Men isconsidered this, both ignored by fans and Marvel, given how Marc Guggenheim didn't give a fuck and pissed off Kyle and Yost and fans of New X-Men/New Mutants with the stories he wrote.
wrote.
**Boom Boom/Cannonball's relationship falls into this with the Wells/Carey/Abnett and Lanning run.
** Pretty muchX-Force falls into this for is ignored by hardcore New Mutant ''New Mutant'' fans, which led to the Well New Mutants series getting hated on, by those who were pissed off that certain members (Boom Boom and Rictor) were not allowed near the book and generally ignored.ignored.
%%** Boom Boom/Cannonball's relationship in the Wells/Carey/Abnett and Lanning run.
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%%** Boom Boom/Cannonball's relationship in the Wells/Carey/Abnett and Lanning run.
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* HoYay: Arguably Warlock towards Cypher before the latter's killing-off. Well, except for the fact that Warlock's people are genderless (he doesn't have parents, he has a single "siredam").
** Still present after Cypher came back. "I love you and you are breaking my heart." Well...
** Between Shatterstar and Rictor as well
** Danielle and Rahne, due to their psychic-link when Rahne's in wolf-form.
** -and a good deal of obvious subtext, calling each other 'soul-mate', a revealing event in the Inferno-alternate Manhattan, and Dani saying as much as 'I love y-' on a cliff in Scotland.
** Sometimes, Illyana towards Kitty, too.
** Still present after Cypher came back. "I love you and you are breaking my heart." Well...
** Between Shatterstar and Rictor as well
** Danielle and Rahne, due to their psychic-link when Rahne's in wolf-form.
** -and a good deal of obvious subtext, calling each other 'soul-mate', a revealing event in the Inferno-alternate Manhattan, and Dani saying as much as 'I love y-' on a cliff in Scotland.
** Sometimes, Illyana towards Kitty, too.
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** Still present after Cypher came back. "I love you and you are breaking my heart." Well...
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** Danielle and Rahne, due to their psychic-link when Rahne's in wolf-form.
** -and a good deal of obvious subtext, calling each other 'soul-mate', a revealing event in the Inferno-alternate Manhattan, and Dani saying as much as 'I love y-' on a cliff in Scotland.
** Sometimes,
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