History YMMV / NewMutants

24th Dec '15 1:04:04 PM MagBas
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* MarySue: ComicBook/{{X 23}} under Kyle and Yost, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Fittingly, [[CreatorsPet they created her]]. ** CopyCatSue: ''Duh''! ** GodModeSue: Seems to gain a new animalistic sense whenever the plot calls for it, enabling her to figure plot points out before anyone else. ** JerkSue: Has the personality of a coldhearted assassin amongst largely naive, inexperienced teenagers. ** RelationshipSue: Gets involved with [[DracoInLeatherPants Hellion]] after Wind Dancer is shooed out of the plot off-panel. ** SympatheticSue: A candidate for the most messed-up backstory of any X-character.
1st Sep '15 1:39:17 PM StFan
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* FriendlyFandoms: There is big overlap between fans of ''New X-Men'', ''AvengersAcademy'', ''{{Runaways}}'' and ''YoungAvengers'', so these four fandoms are likely to stick together.
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* FriendlyFandoms: There is big overlap between fans of ''New X-Men'', ''AvengersAcademy'', ''{{Runaways}}'' ''ComicBook/AvengersAcademy'', ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' and ''YoungAvengers'', ''ComicBook/YoungAvengers'', so these four fandoms are likely to stick together.
28th Feb '15 8:10:31 AM SeptimusHeap
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* AlienScrappy: Warlock and Gossamyr; Shatterstar also probably counts when written by Rob Liefeld ** The presence of extraterrestrials on a ''mutant'' team was handwaved away since they [[AssPull had different personalities than those typical of their species]] (this was [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] and parodied in an issue of ''What The...?'' where the New Mutants parody team had a ''stray dog'' join for similar reasons). *** Warlock actually was a mutant of his species, however, as unlike the rest of the technarchy, he was able to infect people without it being permanent, and absorb life energy without killing them.
18th Nov '14 3:59:17 PM MagBas
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unfortunate implications need citations
* UnfortunateImplications: Magma falling for Empath after repeatedly being mindraped by him. ** Danielle Moonstar who is a walking Native American stereotype at times, right down to her mistrust of "whites". Which is amazing given the team also includes a hulking Apache warrior.

* TheScrappy: Ink was hated by many fans. The fact that the writer went to extreme lengths (like, you know, giving him the power of ''Phoenix'') to make him seem important did not go over well with fans, and he also had the stigma of being a human rather than a mutant. Being a JerkAss and bizarrely ending up with Emma Frost in a BadFuture also didn't help. * UnfortunateImplications: Apparently, according to Marc Guggenheim, Dust, one of the few heroic Muslim characters in mainstream comics, will inevitably become a supervillain in the future and kill all of her fellow X-Men.
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* TheScrappy: Ink was hated by many fans. The fact that the writer went to extreme lengths (like, you know, giving him the power of ''Phoenix'') to make him seem important did not go over well with fans, and he also had the stigma of being a human rather than a mutant. Being a JerkAss and bizarrely ending up with Emma Frost in a BadFuture also didn't help. \n* UnfortunateImplications: Apparently, according to Marc Guggenheim, Dust, one of the few heroic Muslim characters in mainstream comics, will inevitably become a supervillain in the future and kill all of her fellow X-Men.
11th Oct '14 2:57:42 PM kensu
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Added DiffLines:
* MyRealDaddy: Warlock and Legion were introduced when Bill Sienkiewicz was on the book, and due to his unusual art style they have never looked right when they were drawn by other people (most artists just copied his style for that particular character, which caused them to jar with their surroundings). This isn't so unusual with Warlock due to his nature as a being of twisted organic metal; but Legion looks really strange (see The Muir Island saga in Uncanny X-Men for an example).
7th Oct '14 9:07:02 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* MarySue: {{X-23}} under Kyle and Yost, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Fittingly, [[CreatorsPet they created her]].
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* MarySue: {{X-23}} ComicBook/{{X 23}} under Kyle and Yost, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Fittingly, [[CreatorsPet they created her]].
9th Jul '14 6:03:59 AM LogoP
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Fan Dumb & Hate Dumb are now part of Flame Bait. Only in-universe examples are allowed. Also, we do not longer collect Fetish Fuel.
* FetishFuel : Selene and her mind control could be used quite erotically; when she forces Mirage to enjoy the sacrifices, for example. ** Empath's powers and the way he uses them. He has absolutely no qualms about manipulating another person's emotions against their will all because he thinks it's amusing. ** The Smiley Faces.

* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Cypher was a polarizing character amongst fans of the title in the 1980s, in part because he had sensible everyday mutant powers in the form of the ability to understand any form of language, which sadly also made him utterly useless in fight scenes unless he merged with the alien Warlock. So when Chris Claremont left the book and Louise Simonson took over, Simonson decided to kill off Cypher since she didn't feel like coming up with excuses for why he was MIA in fight scenes, plus felt that no one liked him. Sadly, when she killed him off, fans revolted against the death. [[FanDumb Even the fans who were calling for Doug to be killed off!]] And to this day still fans rant and rave about how Cypher had so much potential that was utterly wasted by Simonson misreading the room.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Cypher was a polarizing character amongst fans of the title in the 1980s, in part because he had sensible everyday mutant powers in the form of the ability to understand any form of language, which sadly also made him utterly useless in fight scenes unless he merged with the alien Warlock. So when Chris Claremont left the book and Louise Simonson took over, Simonson decided to kill off Cypher since she didn't feel like coming up with excuses for why he was MIA in fight scenes, plus felt that no one liked him. Sadly, when she killed him off, fans revolted against the death. [[FanDumb Even the fans who were calling for Doug to be killed off!]] off! And to this day still fans rant and rave about how Cypher had so much potential that was utterly wasted by Simonson misreading the room.
20th Apr '14 9:43:55 AM moloch
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Cypher was a polarizing character amongst fans of the title in the 1980s, in part because he had sensible everyday mutant powers in the form of the ability to understand any form of language, which sadly also made him utterly useless in fight scenes unless he merged with the alien Warlock. So when Chris Claremont left the book and Louis Simonson took over, Simonson decided to kill off Cypher since she didn't feel like coming up with excuses for why he was MIA in fight scenes, plus felt that no one liked him. Sadly, when she killed him off, fans revolted against the death. [[FanDumb Even the fans who were calling for Doug to be killed off!]] And to this day still fans rant and rave about how Cypher had so much potential that was utterly wasted by Simonson misreading the room.
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Cypher was a polarizing character amongst fans of the title in the 1980s, in part because he had sensible everyday mutant powers in the form of the ability to understand any form of language, which sadly also made him utterly useless in fight scenes unless he merged with the alien Warlock. So when Chris Claremont left the book and Louis Louise Simonson took over, Simonson decided to kill off Cypher since she didn't feel like coming up with excuses for why he was MIA in fight scenes, plus felt that no one liked him. Sadly, when she killed him off, fans revolted against the death. [[FanDumb Even the fans who were calling for Doug to be killed off!]] And to this day still fans rant and rave about how Cypher had so much potential that was utterly wasted by Simonson misreading the room.
31st Mar '14 10:55:33 AM StrixObscuro
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minor fix
!![[=YMMVs=] for ''Young X-Men'':
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31st Mar '14 10:55:06 AM StrixObscuro
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added a section for Young X-Men
** JerkassWoobie: Hellion is a bit of a jerk, even if with heart of gold, but not only [=DeFilippis=] and Weir had his parents effectively disinherit him, under Kyle and Yost his life has been turned into endless series of kicks in the face. And then they kicked him even more in X-Force. Surge and Prodigy could also qualify, considering some questionable choices they make in last arcs, that are directly caused by what they've been through before.
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** JerkassWoobie: Hellion is a bit of a jerk, even if with heart of gold, but not only [=DeFilippis=] and Weir had his parents effectively disinherit him, under Kyle and Yost his life has been turned into endless series of kicks in the face. And then they kicked him even more in X-Force. Surge and Prodigy could also qualify, considering some questionable choices they make in last arcs, that are directly caused by what they've been through before.before. !![[=YMMVs=] for ''Young X-Men'': * TheScrappy: Ink was hated by many fans. The fact that the writer went to extreme lengths (like, you know, giving him the power of ''Phoenix'') to make him seem important did not go over well with fans, and he also had the stigma of being a human rather than a mutant. Being a JerkAss and bizarrely ending up with Emma Frost in a BadFuture also didn't help. * UnfortunateImplications: Apparently, according to Marc Guggenheim, Dust, one of the few heroic Muslim characters in mainstream comics, will inevitably become a supervillain in the future and kill all of her fellow X-Men.
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