History YMMV / NewMutants

12th Feb '17 11:29:23 AM DemonDuckofDoom
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* CompleteMonster: Two in the forms of Empath and Donald Pierce. For Pierce, see his entry under YMMV/XMen.
** A bio by Xavier flat-out states that Manuel may be the definition of pure evil. In addition, he has no empathy and toys with others' emotions for his enjoyment.



* CompleteMonster:
** [[SinisterMinister William Stryker]], of course. Kyle and Yost evidently disagreed with Creator/ChrisClaremont that he could be redeemed, as they explicitly undid Claremont's redemption storyline for him.
** Possibly also [[PsychoPsychologist Sean Garrison]], had his arc not been [[AbortedArc aborted]]. He ''is'' a [[MindRape mind rapist]] and ''actual'' rapist, after all.
5th Feb '17 1:37:10 PM Scorntex
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: Magik using the fact she's immune to Empath's powers to put the fear of her into him at a dance.


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** Stuck in Limbo, facing down several angry demons, Pixie uses her dust on them, which makes them stop in their tracks. Blindfold asks what they're seeing, but Pixie doesn't know. The audience gets [[MushroomSambra a good idea]].
*** Gets a callback later on, when Pixie uses it on Logan by accident. "F@#KING UNICORNS!"
13th Dec '16 2:52:03 AM IdumeanPatriot
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** Empath, when he used his powers to [[HypnotizeThePrincess take advantage of]] various people, whether personally or by proxy, in the original Claremont books.
*** And in this connection, arguably Roulette, as well, who wasn't horrified, but rather ''[[LackOfEmpathy amused]]'', when he used those powers on [[IncorruptiblePurePureness Firestar]].
20th Oct '16 4:15:22 PM MirrorNoir
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* MyRealDaddy: Warlock and Legion were introduced when Bill Sienkiewicz was on the book, and due to his unusual art style they have never looked right when they were drawn by other people (most artists just copied his style for that particular character, which caused them to jar with their surroundings). This isn't so unusual with Warlock due to his nature as a being of twisted organic metal; but Legion looks really strange (see The Muir Island saga in Uncanny X-Men for an example).

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* MyRealDaddy: Warlock and Legion were was introduced when Bill Sienkiewicz was on the book, and due to his unusual art style they have he has never looked right when they were drawn by other people (most artists just copied his style for that particular character, which caused them Warlock to jar with their surroundings). This isn't so unusual with Warlock due to his nature as a being of twisted organic metal; but Legion looks really strange (see The Muir Island saga in Uncanny X-Men for an example).



** Empath, given the stunts he pulls in New Mutants and later on, in New Warriors and Uncanny X-Men
* ScapegoatCreator: Louis Simonson for Cypher's death. Artist Brett Blevin was the driving force for killing Doug off, manipulating Louis to think no one liked the polarizing character and that fans would cheer his death.
** Rob Liefeld gets this for Warlock. The character was killed as the transition to X-Force started, but it was Bob Harras who actually gave the kill order due to him never liking Warlock and wanting him dead.



** An entire ''team'' of Scrappies was folded in following the ''[[CrisisCrossover Inferno]]'' event with the X-Terminators: Boom Boom, Rusty, Skids, Arty, Leech, Rictor, Whiz Kid. Luckily the bulk of the characters were quickly put on various buses, leaving Rictor and Boom Boom to become beloved members of the group, though this derailed the book from a thoughtful angsty series into the very "mall-going brats" adventures that old-school fans thanked the old writers for ''not'' using.

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** An entire ''team'' of Scrappies was folded in following the ''[[CrisisCrossover Inferno]]'' event with the X-Terminators: Boom Boom, Rusty, Skids, Arty, Leech, Rictor, Whiz Kid. Luckily the bulk of the characters were quickly put on various buses, leaving Rictor and Boom Boom to become beloved members of the group, though this derailed the book from unless you were a thoughtful angsty series into the very "mall-going brats" adventures that old-school fans thanked the old writers for ''not'' using.shipper who was NOT happy with Wolfsbane and Cannonball ending up romantically involved with Rictor and Boom Boom respectively.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Cypher was a polarizing character amongst fans of the title in the 1980s, in part because he had sensible everyday mutant powers in the form of the ability to understand any form of language, which sadly also made him utterly useless in fight scenes unless he merged with the alien Warlock. So when Chris Claremont left the book and Louise Simonson took over, Simonson decided to kill off Cypher since she didn't feel like coming up with excuses for why he was MIA in fight scenes, plus felt that no one liked him. Sadly, when she killed him off, fans revolted against the death. Even the fans who were calling for Doug to be killed off! And to this day still fans rant and rave about how Cypher had so much potential that was utterly wasted by Simonson misreading the room.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Cypher was a polarizing character amongst fans of the title in the 1980s, in part because he had sensible everyday mutant powers in the form of the ability to understand any form of language, which sadly also made him utterly useless in fight scenes unless he merged with the alien Warlock. So when Chris Claremont left the book and Louise Simonson took over, artist Brett Blevins conspired to manipulate Simonson decided to kill into killing off Cypher since she he didn't feel like coming up with excuses for why he was MIA in fight scenes, plus felt that no one liked want to draw a mutant "who had to hide behind trees during fights" by tricking her into thinking fans hated him. Sadly, when she killed him off, fans revolted against the death. Even the fans who were calling for Doug to be killed off! And to this day still fans rant and rave about how Cypher had so much potential that was utterly wasted by Simonson misreading the room.
20th Oct '16 4:05:39 PM MirrorNoir
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The level of "dumbing down" from the earliest issues to the time of Cable's leadership is so marked that it also marks the beginning of the Liefeld Age of comics; chrome arms, pouches, guns, pointless angst, no-character writing, teeth-gritted action, "ninjas appear from the future", etc.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The level of "dumbing down" transition from New Mutants to X-Force. And later the earliest issues to the time of Cable's leadership is so marked that it also marks the beginning de-Simonson/Liefeldization of the Liefeld Age of comics; chrome arms, pouches, guns, pointless angst, no-character writing, teeth-gritted action, "ninjas appear from the future", etc.franchise under Zeb Wells
20th Oct '16 3:58:45 PM MirrorNoir
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* CanonDiscontinuity: Several
** Young X-Men is considered this, both by fans and Marvel, given how Marc Guggenheim didn't give a fuck and pissed off Kyle and Yost and fans of New X-Men/New Mutants with the stories he wrote.
** Boom Boom/Cannonball's relationship falls into this with the Wells/Carey/Abnett and Lanning run.
** Pretty much X-Force falls into this for hardcore New Mutant fans, which led to the Well New Mutants series getting hated on, by those who were pissed off that certain members (Boom Boom and Rictor) were not allowed near the book and generally ignored.
31st Jul '16 7:36:06 AM Ambaryerno
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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: In the new series, Dani gets her friend - a congnitive therapist - to try to work around the personal issues of her teammates and Nate Grey. She has to explain to him the [[TangledFamilyTree Summers Family Tree]].

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: In the new series, CrowningMomentOfFunny:
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Dani gets her friend - a congnitive therapist - to try to work around the personal issues of her teammates and Nate Grey. She has to explain to him the [[TangledFamilyTree Summers Family Tree]].Tree]].
** After Julian mouths off about her always playing ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} in simulations, Comicbook/{{X 23}} very clearly makes her irritation known by walking up to him and extending her claws ''just'' short of his {{groin| attack}}.
--->'''Julian:''' Down, girl.\\
(''SNIKT'')\\
'''Rockslide:''' Ouch.\\
'''Julian:''' Didn't they clone you a sense of humor?
31st Jul '16 7:24:45 AM Ambaryerno
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Laura playing TheCavalry during Stryker's attack on the school in ''New X-Men''. The adults present are quickly rendered ineffective, and except for Dust, the kids are only able to put up a token defense at best. Then Laura arrives and ''[[CurbStompBattle utterly destroys]]'' the Purifiers attacking the school. ''Single-handed.''
** She takes part in yet another during ''Messiah Complex'': Laura is a part of the X-Force team who arrive to take on Lady Deathstrike and the Reavers after they previously ambushed Cable. Laura is ''very'' angry, and makes ''very'' [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge short work of Deathstrike]] for [[ViolentlyProtectiveGirlfriend nearly killing Hellion]].
4th Apr '16 7:40:13 PM Ambaryerno
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* AngstWhatAngst: No matter how many bad things happens to Pizie, she is angsty about it only when somebody directly pushes the issue.

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* AngstWhatAngst: No matter how many bad things happens to Pizie, Pixie, she is angsty about it only when somebody directly pushes the issue.issue.
** While Rockslide has [[MyGreatestFailure his greatest failure]] with the deaths of the students on the bus, he's still possibly the best-adjusted member of the cast, and absolutely loves being a mutant and an X-Man. The fact he's not exactly bright tends to help the angst roll off him.


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*** Although Hellion was a bit of a dick to her when they first met (though it's often exaggerated), he becomes one of the first people to ''actively'' try to help her learn that she's better than what the Facility made her. Logan may have talked a big game, but it was Julian who made the first real steps in her later development.
4th Apr '16 7:36:19 PM Ambaryerno
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** Even ShipSinking by Marjorie Liu hasn't stopped Hellion/X-23 from being the preferred ship for both characters.
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