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* OnceOriginalNowCommon: They're still a revered act and ''Obscura'' is still considered to be one of the greatest technical death metal albums ever made, but newer fans familiar with bands like Music/{{Ulcerate}}, Music/{{Portal}}, Music/{{Pyrrhon}}, and Artificial Brain might have trouble with understanding just how groundbreaking the album was.



* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: They're still a revered act and ''Obscura'' is still considered to be one of the greatest technical death metal albums ever made, but newer fans familiar with bands like Music/{{Ulcerate}}, Music/{{Portal}}, Music/{{Pyrrhon}}, and Artificial Brain might have trouble with understanding just how groundbreaking the album was.
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True Art Is Incomprehensible is now an in-universe trope as per TRS.


* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Some listeners may end up thinking this upon hearing anything they've released starting with ''Obscura'', although further listening will help unravel some of the music's secrets. A thorough familiarity with music theory and the tropes of death metal won't hurt anything, nor will a deep background in history and mythology. Their music probably delves into ViewersAreGeniuses territory at many points.

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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Some listeners may end up thinking this upon hearing anything they've released starting with ''Obscura'', although further listening will help unravel some of the music's secrets. A thorough familiarity with music theory and the tropes of death metal won't hurt anything, nor will a deep background in history and mythology. Their music probably delves into ViewersAreGeniuses territory at many points.----
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* FaceOfTheBand: Luc Lemay.
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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible and TrueArtIsAngsty: Some listeners may end up thinking this upon hearing anything they've released starting with ''Obscura'', although further listening will help unravel some of the music's secrets, as well as the fact that there are other emotions besides simple angst and aggression lurking beneath the surface. A thorough familiarity with music theory and the tropes of death metal won't hurt anything, nor will a deep background in history and mythology. Their music probably delves into ViewersAreGeniuses territory at many points.

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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible and TrueArtIsAngsty: TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: Some listeners may end up thinking this upon hearing anything they've released starting with ''Obscura'', although further listening will help unravel some of the music's secrets, as well as the fact that there are other emotions besides simple angst and aggression lurking beneath the surface.secrets. A thorough familiarity with music theory and the tropes of death metal won't hurt anything, nor will a deep background in history and mythology. Their music probably delves into ViewersAreGeniuses territory at many points.
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Now a redirect to Anvilicious, how well received it was is irrelevant.


* {{Anvilicious}}: ''Pleiades' Dust'' is not exactly subtle about the fact that Islam has contributed untold riches to humanity's scholarship and culture, and Lemay is similarly blunt in interviews about the fact that Muslims shouldn't be universally stigmatised as terrorists. For many listeners, of course, SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped, and the message felt especially timely given the political climate when it was released.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: ''Pleiades' Dust'' is not exactly subtle about the fact that Islam has contributed untold riches to humanity's scholarship and culture, and Lemay is similarly blunt in interviews about the fact that Muslims shouldn't be universally stigmatised as terrorists. For many listeners, of course, SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped, and the message felt especially timely given the political climate when it was released.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Basically, all of it, but ''Obscura'' stands out even among their high-quality discography. It's still one of the most highly regarded TechnicalDeathMetal albums of all time.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Basically, all of it, but ''Obscura'' stands out even among their high-quality discography. It's still one of the most highly regarded TechnicalDeathMetal albums of all time. These days, ''Colored Sands'' seems to be regarded almost as highly, or even ''as'' highly.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: ''Pleiades' Dust'' is not exactly subtle about the fact that Islam has contributed untold riches to humanity's scholarship and culture. Lemay in interviews isn't even remotely subtle about the fact that Muslims shouldn't be universally stigmatised as terrorists. For many listeners, of course, SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped, and the message would've felt especially timely given the political climate when it was released.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: ''Pleiades' Dust'' is not exactly subtle about the fact that Islam has contributed untold riches to humanity's scholarship and culture. culture, and Lemay is similarly blunt in interviews isn't even remotely subtle about the fact that Muslims shouldn't be universally stigmatised as terrorists. For many listeners, of course, SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped, and the message would've felt especially timely given the political climate when it was released.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: ''Pleiades' Dust''is not exactly subtle about the fact that Islam has contributed untold riches to humanity's scholarship and culture. Lemay in interviews isn't even remotely subtle about the fact that Muslims shouldn't be universally stigmatised as terrorists.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: ''Pleiades' Dust''is Dust'' is not exactly subtle about the fact that Islam has contributed untold riches to humanity's scholarship and culture. Lemay in interviews isn't even remotely subtle about the fact that Muslims shouldn't be universally stigmatised as terrorists. For many listeners, of course, SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped, and the message would've felt especially timely given the political climate when it was released.
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* CreatorWorship: Undoubtedly one of the most revered acts in death metal that isn't actually named Music/{{Death}}. Lemay and Marston perhaps get the most of this - Lemay for his songwriting abilities and technical skill as a guitarist, and Marston partially for his skill at several different instruments, partially for his output with something like two dozen different acts (including some other big names including Music/{{Krallice}}, Dysrhythmia, and Behold the Arctopus), and partially for seemingly making it his life's mission to give sterling sound quality to as many metal bands as possible.

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* {{Anvilicious}}: ''Pleiades' Dust''is not exactly subtle about the fact that Islam has contributed untold riches to humanity's scholarship and culture. Lemay in interviews isn't even remotely subtle about the fact that Muslims shouldn't be universally stigmatised as terrorists.



* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: ''Pleiades' Dust'' with its celebration of scholarship and learning. It's not exactly subtle about the fact that Islam has contributed untold riches to humanity's scholarship and culture, either. Lemay in interviews isn't even remotely subtle about the fact that Muslims shouldn't be universally stigmatised as terrorists, which in these days of panic over Syrian refugees and other immigrants is the sort of thing that needs to be repeated as often as possible - even more so in the wake of the 2016 U.S. election.
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* EarWorm: "Nostalgia" is surprisingly catchy for a noisy TechnicalDeathMetal song.
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* FandomBerserkButton: In some circles of the Internet, criticising ''Obscura'' is almost certain to get you flamed.

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* FandomBerserkButton: In some circles of the Internet, criticising ''Obscura'' is almost certain to get you flamed.



* OlderThanTheyThink: A lot of the material on ''Obscura'' was written as far back as 1993, if not earlier. The TitleTrack and "Nostalgia" were the last two songs composed.


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* OlderThanTheyThink: A lot of the material on ''Obscura'' was written as far back as 1993, if not earlier. The TitleTrack and "Nostalgia" were the last two songs composed.
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* EpicRiff: A lot. "Obscura", "Nostalgia", "Inverted", and "Le Toit du monde" have excellent examples.

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* EpicRiff: A lot. "Obscura", "Nostalgia", "Inverted", and "Das Martyrium des...", "Le Toit du monde" monde", and "Absconders" all have excellent examples.

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