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** The Flesh Mage from the second game. Oh good god, the Flesh Mage. A powerful sorcerer who is ''completely'' insane, [[spoiler:(thanks to a spell put on him by the game's BigBad)]] even the game's would be world conquering bad guys fear him and have locked him within his own palace, and keep him placated by sending over slave girls to be his "brides". Because there is an enchantment around his palace, anyone who enters without drinking a special potion first, including these brides, have their mind and will totally destroyed so they won't resist while he skins them alive and then adds their skin to his cloaked collected from dozens (or more) past brides. Furthermore, until you find his SoulJar, he is completely invincible, and you can't harm him as he constantly floats after you while his golems and undead attack you. Oh, and he looks like [[http://drakan.wikia.com/wiki/Yutaji,_The_Flesh_Mage?file=Yutaji.png this]]. After you've spent an hour or two being stalked by him while you desperately search his palace looking for his SoulJar, he ''will'' haunt your nightmares.
*** And if Rynn does enter his lair without the aforementioned potion, you get a lovely NonStandardGameOver where she winds up as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTC7hdbLG5w his latest bride]].

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** The Flesh Mage from the second game. Oh good god, the Flesh Mage. A powerful sorcerer who is ''completely'' insane, [[spoiler:(thanks to a spell put on him by the game's BigBad)]] even the game's would be world conquering bad guys fear him and have locked him within his own palace, and keep him placated by sending over slave girls to be his "brides". Because there is an enchantment around his palace, anyone who enters without drinking a special potion first, including these brides, have their mind and will totally destroyed so they won't resist while he skins them alive and then adds their skin to his cloaked collected from dozens (or more) past brides. Furthermore, until you find his SoulJar, he is completely invincible, and you can't harm him as he constantly floats after you while his golems and undead attack you. Oh, and he looks like [[http://drakan.wikia.com/wiki/Yutaji,_The_Flesh_Mage?file=Yutaji.png this]]. After you've spent an hour or two being stalked by him while you desperately search his palace looking for his SoulJar, he ''will'' haunt your nightmares.
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nightmares. And if Rynn does enter his lair without the aforementioned potion, you get a lovely NonStandardGameOver where she winds up as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTC7hdbLG5w his latest bride]].



** The Grimstone Mines also count. If you have the misfortune to be captured by the Wartoks, you're either going to spend the rest of your life being forced to dig up a magical ore that drives you insane, or you're going to be tortured to death when the Wartoks want some sport. Or possibly ''both''.

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** The Grimstone Mines also count. If you have the misfortune to be captured by the Wartoks, you're either going to spend the rest of your life being forced to dig up a magical ore that drives you insane, or you're going to be tortured to death when the Wartoks want some sport. Or possibly ''both''.''both''.

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* CompleteMonster: [[EvilOverlord Navaros]] is a former member of the Order of the Flame who [[FallenHero defected to the Dark Union]]. Upon becoming the leader of the Union, Navaros and the Union started a long and bloody CivilWar, with a death toll in the thousands, having also murdered and fused with his dragon mount Kaeros to form a DraconicAbomination. Having been being trapped in the Rift World, Navaros has several children--including Delon, brother of heroine Rynn--abducted by monsters to serve as potential vessels. At one point, Rynn learns that numerous people have been kidnapped to become [[SlaveryIsASpecialKindOfEvil slaves]] in the grimstone mines, resulting in many slaves being poisoned. Possessing Delon and forcing Rynn to fight him, Navaros takes the form of a four-headed dragon in a final effort to defeat Rynn.
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* GoddamnBats: The spiders encountered early on are a real pain (although not bad enough to be literal DemonicSpiders), mainly due to their melee attack having a better range than your starting weapons (all short swords), meaning you have to time your attacks well to avoid getting hit. Once you get some weapons with a better range, they go down pretty easy.
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***And if Rynn does enter his lair without the aforementioned potion, you get a lovely NonStandardGameOver where she winds up as [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTC7hdbLG5w his latest bride]].

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* CompleteMonster: The Grull and Wartoks are pretty much completely and irredeemably evil. They slaughter and torture humans for fun and are frequently observed fighting and killing each other too. Rynn does encounter a Grull locked up by the Wartoks in the Grimstone Mines, but he shakes his head if you go to open his cell. Since both games establish that the Grull are pretty much as violent and despicable as the Wartoks, it's unlikely he'd do anything but try to kill you [[TooDumbToLive even if Rynn did let him out]].
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* GameBreaker: Provided you acquire all of the elemental swords during the sequel, [[InfinityPlusOneSword Mournbringer]] becomes available at the blacksmith just in time for the final act, which it trivialises. Its staggering 30AP score is nice enough, but it also [[LifeDrain converts the massive dealt into health]], making Rynn functionally immortal. To top it off, like the other elemental blades it requires only one point in melee skill to equip, so you can use it no matter your character build.
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** The general brutality of the Wartoks is pretty horrifying in the first game. One of the first things we see them do is massacre a human village. At one point an unarmed villager begs for his life and a towering, burly Wartok [[KickTheDog responds]] by deliberately ''impaling him through the throat with a spear and lifting him off the ground''. The poor guy [[HellIsThatNoise chokes to death]] and the creature [[DissonantSerenity just stares at him]]. Later Rynn encounters Wartok torture chambers filled with human corpses, many of whom have been impaled or had their hearts cut out. At one point the Wartoks torture a delusional man to death on a rack and find doing so amusing.

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** The general brutality of the Wartoks is pretty horrifying in the first game. One of the first things we see them do is massacre a human village. At one point an unarmed villager begs for his life and a towering, burly Wartok [[KickTheDog responds]] by deliberately ''impaling him through the throat with a spear and lifting him off the ground''. The poor guy [[HellIsThatNoise chokes to death]] death and the creature [[DissonantSerenity just stares at him]]. Later Rynn encounters Wartok torture chambers filled with human corpses, many of whom have been impaled or had their hearts cut out. At one point the Wartoks torture a delusional man to death on a rack and find doing so amusing.
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* CompleteMonster: The Grull and Wartoks are pretty much completely and irredeemably evil. They slaughter and torture humans for fun and are frequently observed fighting and killing each other too. Rynn does encounter a Grull locked up by the Wartoks in the Grimstone Mines, but he shakes his head if you go to open his cell. Since both games establish that the Grull are pretty much as violent and despicable as the Wartoks, it's unlikely he'd do anything but try to kill you [[TooDumbToLive even if Rynn did let him out]].
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** The general brutality of the Wartoks is pretty horrifying in the first game. One of the first things we see them do is massacre a human village. At one point an unarmed villager begs for his life and a towering, burly Wartok responds by deliberately [[KickTheDog ''impaling him through the throat with a spear and lifting him off the ground'' ]]. The poor guy [[HellIsThatNoise chokes to death]] and the creature [[DissonantSerenity just stares at him]]. Later Rynn encounters Wartok torture chambers filled with human corpses, many of whom have been impaled or had their hearts cut out. At one point the Wartoks torture a delusional man to death on a rack and find doing so amusing.

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** The general brutality of the Wartoks is pretty horrifying in the first game. One of the first things we see them do is massacre a human village. At one point an unarmed villager begs for his life and a towering, burly Wartok responds [[KickTheDog responds]] by deliberately [[KickTheDog ''impaling him through the throat with a spear and lifting him off the ground'' ]].ground''. The poor guy [[HellIsThatNoise chokes to death]] and the creature [[DissonantSerenity just stares at him]]. Later Rynn encounters Wartok torture chambers filled with human corpses, many of whom have been impaled or had their hearts cut out. At one point the Wartoks torture a delusional man to death on a rack and find doing so amusing.
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** The general brutality of the Wartoks is pretty horrifying in the first game. One of the first things we see them do is massacre a human village. At one point an unarmed villager begs for his life and a towering, burly Wartok responds by deliberately [[KickTheDog ''impaling him through the throat with a spear and lifting him off the ground'']]. The poor guy [[HellIsThatNoise chokes to death]] and the creature [[DissonantSerenity just stares at him]]. Later Rynn encounters Wartok torture chambers filled with human corpses, many of whom have been impaled or had their hearts cut out. At one point the Wartoks torture a delusional man to death on a rack and find doing so amusing.

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** The general brutality of the Wartoks is pretty horrifying in the first game. One of the first things we see them do is massacre a human village. At one point an unarmed villager begs for his life and a towering, burly Wartok responds by deliberately [[KickTheDog ''impaling him through the throat with a spear and lifting him off the ground'']].ground'' ]]. The poor guy [[HellIsThatNoise chokes to death]] and the creature [[DissonantSerenity just stares at him]]. Later Rynn encounters Wartok torture chambers filled with human corpses, many of whom have been impaled or had their hearts cut out. At one point the Wartoks torture a delusional man to death on a rack and find doing so amusing.
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** The general brutality of the Wartoks is pretty horrifying in the first game. One of the first things we see them do is massacre a human village. At one point an unarmed villager begs for his life and a towering, burly Wartok responds by deliberately ''impaling him through the throat with a spear and lifting him off the ground''. The poor guy chokes to death and the creature just stares at him. Later Rynn encounters Wartok torture chambers filled with human corpses, many of whom have been impaled or had their hearts cut out. At one point the Wartoks torture a delusional man to death on a rack and find doing so amusing.

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** The general brutality of the Wartoks is pretty horrifying in the first game. One of the first things we see them do is massacre a human village. At one point an unarmed villager begs for his life and a towering, burly Wartok responds by deliberately [[KickTheDog ''impaling him through the throat with a spear and lifting him off the ground''. ground'']]. The poor guy [[HellIsThatNoise chokes to death death]] and the creature [[DissonantSerenity just stares at him.him]]. Later Rynn encounters Wartok torture chambers filled with human corpses, many of whom have been impaled or had their hearts cut out. At one point the Wartoks torture a delusional man to death on a rack and find doing so amusing.
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** The Grimstone Mines also count. If you have the misfortune to be captured by the Wartoks, you're either going to spend the rest of your life mining an evil ore that drives you insane, or you're going to be tortured to death when the Wartoks want some sport. Or possibly ''both''.

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** The Grimstone Mines also count. If you have the misfortune to be captured by the Wartoks, you're either going to spend the rest of your life mining an evil being forced to dig up a magical ore that drives you insane, or you're going to be tortured to death when the Wartoks want some sport. Or possibly ''both''.
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** The general brutality of the Wartoks is pretty horrifying in the first game. One of the first things we see them do is massacre a human village. At one point an unarmed villager begs for his life and a towering, burly Wartok responds by deliberately ''impaling him through the throat with a spear and lifting him off the ground''. The poor guy chokes to death and the creature just stares at him. Later Rynn encounters Wartok torture chambers filled with human corpses, many of whom have been impaled or had their hearts cut out. At one point the Wartoks torture a delusional man to death on a rack and find doing so amusing.

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** The general brutality of the Wartoks is pretty horrifying in the first game. One of the first things we see them do is massacre a human village. At one point an unarmed villager begs for his life and a towering, burly Wartok responds by deliberately ''impaling him through the throat with a spear and lifting him off the ground''. The poor guy chokes to death and the creature just stares at him. Later Rynn encounters Wartok torture chambers filled with human corpses, many of whom have been impaled or had their hearts cut out. At one point the Wartoks torture a delusional man to death on a rack and find doing so amusing.amusing.
** The Grimstone Mines also count. If you have the misfortune to be captured by the Wartoks, you're either going to spend the rest of your life mining an evil ore that drives you insane, or you're going to be tortured to death when the Wartoks want some sport. Or possibly ''both''.
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** This one can be both NightmareFuel and NightmareRetardant: The giant chicken monster in the second game. It's an eight-foot-tall chicken with glowing red eyes that lives in a small cave by the river that runs past Surdana. You can easily be startled by it if you're in the habit of exploring every little cave you come across, as no one in-game mentions it, and it actually looks pretty creepy... but on the other hand ''it's a giant chicken.'' Its lair is strewn with blood and corpses, and it's very aggressive, but killing it isn't too difficult and rewards you with a golden egg worth a decent amount.

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** This one can be both NightmareFuel and NightmareRetardant: The giant chicken monster in the second game. It's an eight-foot-tall chicken with glowing red eyes that lives in a small cave by the river that runs past Surdana. You can easily be startled by it if you're in the habit of exploring every little cave you come across, as no one in-game mentions it, and it actually looks pretty creepy... but on the other hand ''it's a giant chicken.'' Its lair is strewn with blood and corpses, and it's very aggressive, but killing it isn't too difficult and rewards you with a golden egg worth a decent amount.amount.
** The general brutality of the Wartoks is pretty horrifying in the first game. One of the first things we see them do is massacre a human village. At one point an unarmed villager begs for his life and a towering, burly Wartok responds by deliberately ''impaling him through the throat with a spear and lifting him off the ground''. The poor guy chokes to death and the creature just stares at him. Later Rynn encounters Wartok torture chambers filled with human corpses, many of whom have been impaled or had their hearts cut out. At one point the Wartoks torture a delusional man to death on a rack and find doing so amusing.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: The second game has one or two giggle-worthy moments.

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* CrowningMomentOfFunny: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The first game [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYO4mcrZlVU had]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPTOs6eNY_o a]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIKzAvy4o-8 great]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd6pNIVCHcg soundtrack]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwO-ytZ4_v8 selection]].
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** And if you call for Arohk while he's sitting on the ground nearby, he'll point out that he's "right here" in a confused or annoyed tone.
*** He also has this bad habit of somehow warping to the end tunnel of dungeons, when you expect him to be far away. So you call for him, and he gets all bitchy because he's close to you but out of view of the camera angle.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The first game [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYO4mcrZlVU had]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPTOs6eNY_o a]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIKzAvy4o-8 great]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd6pNIVCHcg soundtrack]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwO-ytZ4_v8 selection]].
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** And if If you call for Arohk while he's sitting on the ground nearby, he'll point out that he's "right here" in a confused or annoyed tone.
*** ** He also has this bad habit of somehow warping to the end tunnel of dungeons, when you expect him to be far away. So you call for him, and he gets all bitchy because he's close to you but out of view of the camera angle.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The first game [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYO4mcrZlVU had]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPTOs6eNY_o a]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIKzAvy4o-8 great]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd6pNIVCHcg soundtrack]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwO-ytZ4_v8 selection]].
* [[NightmareFuel Nightmare Fuel]]
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* [[NightmareFuel Nightmare Fuel]]/[[NightmareRetardant Nightmare Retardant]]: The giant chicken monster in the second game could be either one. It's an eight-foot-tall chicken with glowing red eyes that lives in a small cave by the river that runs past Surdana. You can easily be startled by it if you're in the habit of exploring every little cave you come across, as no one in-game mentions it, and it actually looks pretty creepy... but on the other hand ''it's a giant chicken.'' Its lair is strewn with blood and corpses, and it's very aggressive, but killing it isn't too difficult and rewards you with a golden egg worth a decent amount.

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* [[NightmareFuel Nightmare Fuel]]/[[NightmareRetardant Nightmare Retardant]]: Fuel]]
** The Flesh Mage from the second game. Oh good god, the Flesh Mage. A powerful sorcerer who is ''completely'' insane, [[spoiler:(thanks to a spell put on him by the game's BigBad)]] even the game's would be world conquering bad guys fear him and have locked him within his own palace, and keep him placated by sending over slave girls to be his "brides". Because there is an enchantment around his palace, anyone who enters without drinking a special potion first, including these brides, have their mind and will totally destroyed so they won't resist while he skins them alive and then adds their skin to his cloaked collected from dozens (or more) past brides. Furthermore, until you find his SoulJar, he is completely invincible, and you can't harm him as he constantly floats after you while his golems and undead attack you. Oh, and he looks like [[http://drakan.wikia.com/wiki/Yutaji,_The_Flesh_Mage?file=Yutaji.png this]]. After you've spent an hour or two being stalked by him while you desperately search his palace looking for his SoulJar, he ''will'' haunt your nightmares.
** This one can be both NightmareFuel and NightmareRetardant:
The giant chicken monster in the second game could be either one.game. It's an eight-foot-tall chicken with glowing red eyes that lives in a small cave by the river that runs past Surdana. You can easily be startled by it if you're in the habit of exploring every little cave you come across, as no one in-game mentions it, and it actually looks pretty creepy... but on the other hand ''it's a giant chicken.'' Its lair is strewn with blood and corpses, and it's very aggressive, but killing it isn't too difficult and rewards you with a golden egg worth a decent amount.
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* [[NightmareFuel Nightmare Fuel]]/[[NightmareRetardant Nightmare Retardant]]: The giant chicken monster in the second game could be either one. It's an eight-foot-tall chicken with glowing red eyes that lives in a small cave by the river that runs past Surdana. You can easily be startled by it if you're in the habit of exploring every little cave you come across, as no one in-game mentions it, and it actually looks pretty creepy... but on the other hand ''it's a giant chicken.'' Its lair is strewn with blood and corpses, and it's very aggressive, but killing it rewards you with a golden egg worth a decent amount.

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* [[NightmareFuel Nightmare Fuel]]/[[NightmareRetardant Nightmare Retardant]]: The giant chicken monster in the second game could be either one. It's an eight-foot-tall chicken with glowing red eyes that lives in a small cave by the river that runs past Surdana. You can easily be startled by it if you're in the habit of exploring every little cave you come across, as no one in-game mentions it, and it actually looks pretty creepy... but on the other hand ''it's a giant chicken.'' Its lair is strewn with blood and corpses, and it's very aggressive, but killing it isn't too difficult and rewards you with a golden egg worth a decent amount.
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* [[NightmareFuel Nightmare Fuel]]/[[NightmareRetardant Nightmare Retardant]]: The giant chicken monster in the second game could be either one. It's an eight-foot-tall chicken with glowing red eyes that lives in a small cave by the river that runs past Surdana. You can easily be startled by it if you're in the habit of exploring every little cave you come across, as no one in-game mentions it. Its lair is strewn with blood and corpses, and it's very aggressive, but killing it rewards you with a golden egg worth a decent amount.

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* [[NightmareFuel Nightmare Fuel]]/[[NightmareRetardant Nightmare Retardant]]: The giant chicken monster in the second game could be either one. It's an eight-foot-tall chicken with glowing red eyes that lives in a small cave by the river that runs past Surdana. You can easily be startled by it if you're in the habit of exploring every little cave you come across, as no one in-game mentions it. it, and it actually looks pretty creepy... but on the other hand ''it's a giant chicken.'' Its lair is strewn with blood and corpses, and it's very aggressive, but killing it rewards you with a golden egg worth a decent amount.
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The first game [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYO4mcrZlVU had]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPTOs6eNY_o a]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIKzAvy4o-8 great]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd6pNIVCHcg soundtrack]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwO-ytZ4_v8 selection]].

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The first game [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYO4mcrZlVU had]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPTOs6eNY_o a]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIKzAvy4o-8 great]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd6pNIVCHcg soundtrack]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwO-ytZ4_v8 selection]].selection]].
* [[NightmareFuel Nightmare Fuel]]/[[NightmareRetardant Nightmare Retardant]]: The giant chicken monster in the second game could be either one. It's an eight-foot-tall chicken with glowing red eyes that lives in a small cave by the river that runs past Surdana. You can easily be startled by it if you're in the habit of exploring every little cave you come across, as no one in-game mentions it. Its lair is strewn with blood and corpses, and it's very aggressive, but killing it rewards you with a golden egg worth a decent amount.
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* AnticlimaxBoss: In the second game, we have the second battle with [[spoiler:[[TheDragon Zola Dane]]]]. It's relatively late in the game, and you'd probably expect a pretty hard boss by now, but no. He actually turns out to be pretty weak compared to most of the other bosses in the game.
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*** He also has this bad habit of somehow warping to the end tunnel of dungeons, when you expect him to be far away. So you call for him, and he gets all bitchy because he's close to you but out of view of the camera angle.

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*** He also has this bad habit of somehow warping to the end tunnel of dungeons, when you expect him to be far away. So you call for him, and he gets all bitchy because he's close to you but out of view of the camera angle.angle.
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The first game [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYO4mcrZlVU had]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPTOs6eNY_o a]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIKzAvy4o-8 great]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd6pNIVCHcg soundtrack]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwO-ytZ4_v8 selection]].

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