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** The depiction of ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' is very rooted in the pre-remake state of the franchise, with said remake even getting its then-ongoing DevelopmentHell referenced in the [=HibiChika=] Special. Aside from the differing character designs and voices, the prominence of AdaptedOut characters like Len, Nrvnqsr Chaos, and Riesbyfe would confuse modern fans. Sion is also depicted as part of the ''Tsukihime'' cast, when a more modern fan would probably associate her more with her appearances in ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder''.
** The Koha-Ace segment of the [=HibiChika=] Special has the series ArtShift to artist Keikenchi's style and focuses primarily on the ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' cast with a few cameos from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' and ''Literature/FateZero''. Nowadays, Keikenchi's simplified chibi designs with circle eyes and pointy limbs is far, far more associated with ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'''s recurring GUDAGUDA cast, to the point where a modern viewer would probably be wondering when the Mini Nobus are going to show up.

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** The depiction of ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' is very rooted in the pre-remake state of the franchise, with said remake even getting its then-ongoing DevelopmentHell referenced in the [=HibiChika=] Special. Aside from the differing character designs and voices, the prominence of AdaptedOut characters that [[AdaptedOut weren't included in the remake]] like Len, Nrvnqsr Chaos, and Riesbyfe would confuse modern fans. Sion is also depicted as part of the ''Tsukihime'' cast, when cast because of her prominence in the mostly-''Tsukihime''-focused ''Melty Blood'', when, especially after she was also left out of ''Type Lumina'', a more modern fan would probably associate her more with her appearances in ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder''.
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** The Koha-Ace segment of the [=HibiChika=] Special has the series ArtShift to artist Keikenchi's style and focuses primarily on the ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' ''Tsukihime'' cast with a few cameos from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' and ''Literature/FateZero''. Nowadays, Keikenchi's simplified chibi designs with circle eyes and pointy limbs is far, far more associated with ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'''s ''Grand Order'''s recurring GUDAGUDA cast, to the point where a modern viewer would probably be wondering when the Mini Nobus are going to show up.
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* QuirkyWork: A fair few might characterize ''CP'' as one itself, since it's a goofy, unabashed gag show which uses a pair of ''dark psychological horror visual novels'' as source material. However, much more notable is that a couple episode ''themselves'' rely on references to other [=WJTs=], and these are so obscure outside of Japan that the vast majority of non-Japanese viewers are likely to miss the references entirely.

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* QuirkyWork: A fair few might characterize ''CP'' as one itself, since it's a goofy, unabashed gag show which uses a pair of ''dark psychological horror visual novels'' as source material. However, much more notable is that a couple episode ''themselves'' rely on references to other [=WJTs=], Quirky Works, and these are so obscure outside of Japan that the vast majority of non-Japanese viewers are likely to miss the references entirely.
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* {{Moe}}: Caster, to the point that both Shirou and Rin don't even recognize her when they see he with out her trademark cloak.

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* {{Moe}}: Caster, to the point that both Shirou and Rin don't even recognize her when they see he her with out her trademark cloak.
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** The depiction of ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' is very rooted in the pre-remake state of the franchise, with said remake even getting its then-ongoing DevelopmentHell referenced in the [=HibiChika=] Special. Aside from the differing character designs and voices, the prominence of AdaptedOut characters like Len, Nrvnqsr Chaos, and Riesbyfe would confuse modern fans. Sion is also depicted as part of the ''Tsukihime'' cast, when a more modern fan would probably associate her more with her appearances in ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder''.
** The Koha-Ace segment of the [=HibiChika=] Special has the series ArtShift to artist Keikenchi's style and focuses primarily on the ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'' cast with a few cameos from ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' and ''Literature/FateZero''. Nowadays, Keikenchi's simplified chibi designs with circle eyes and pointy limbs is far, far more associated with ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'''s recurring GUDAGUDA cast, to the point where a modern viewer would probably be wondering when the Mini Nobus are going to show up.

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* QuirkyWork: A fair few might characterize ''CP'' as one itself, since it's a goofy, unabashed gag show which uses a pair of ''dark psychological horror visual novels'' as source material. However, much more notable is that a couple episode ''themselves'' rely on references to other [=WJTs=], and these are so obscure outside of Japan that the vast majority of non-Japanese viewers are likely to miss the references entirely.



* WidgetSeries: A fair few might characterize ''CP'' as one itself, since it's a goofy, unabashed gag show which uses a pair of ''dark psychological horror visual novels'' as source material. However, much more notable is that a couple episode ''themselves'' rely on references to other [=WJTs=], and these are so obscure outside of Japan that the vast majority of non-Japanese viewers are likely to miss the references entirely. To wit:
** The actual gimmick of Episode 5 ("Berserker's First Errand") is that it's an extended gag on a classic, long-running Japanese reality TV show called "[[http://www.ntv.co.jp/otsukai/ Hajimete No Otsukai]]" or "My First Errand". You see, Japan, being a pretty low-crime, public-safety focused country, is rather more okay with the idea of FreeRangeChildren and sending kids to do errands at younger ages than some other societies. In particular, very young kids, around 4 or so, are often sent on their very first errand... with the expectation that they'll probably screw up, and that the mistakes they make will be a teachable moment. "Hajimete" records these on film to watch the kids as they go about the errands in very adorable, kid-like ways and document the ways they get off-track. The nearest American counterpart might be ''Series/AmericasFunniestHomeVideos'', though it's ''significantly'' less mean-spirited than ''AFV'' can be. The episode's humor, of course, comes from the narrator still playing the "Hajimete" parody completely straight, complete with describing Berserker picking up a "dog" (poor Cu), and hurrying to complete his errand (while ignoring his winning the Grail War on accident). As the gimmick of the series largely doesn't even ''exist'' outside of Japan, though, it's rarely ever been exported, so most non-Japanese viewers miss the reference entirely.
*** As a side note: people might think that "Eneloop" is a BlandNameProduct for Energizer. Eneloop is a 100% real brand of rechargeables, manufactured by Panasonic.
** Episode 6 can catch people off guard because of the weird tone shifts... that seem like a joke on something, but you can't tell what. Well, that's because they, and the whole episode, are a joke on the "Renzoku Terebi Shousetsu" (literally "Serial TV Novel"), AKA the "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asadora Asadora]]" (or "Morning Drama"), an ''incredibly'' long-running series of morning {{Soap Opera}}s. The interstitial bumpers are a direct joke on the ones used by ''Asadora'', and a lot of the contrived drama and trials and travails of Sakura during the episode are jokes about the structure of ''Asadora'' seasons and how the shows inevitably treat their (young, female) protagonists. As the shows almost ''never'' get exported (outside of record-setting ones like ''{{Series/Oshin}}'', anyway), though, it's extremely unlikely non-Japanese will understand what the episode is specifically parodying.
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** This is perhaps most evident in that ''all'' of the Nasuverse properties get about equal billing, rather than the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' completely dominating, since ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' wouldn't launch for another few years. The [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival 2021 sequel]] would make up for this, at the cost of jokes about any Nasuverse series other than ''Fate'', reflecting the post-''Grand Order'' hierarchy where the only thing most people know about the rest of the Nasuverse outside of ''Fate'' is the memes surrounding [[VideoGame/MeltyBlood Neco-Arc]].

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** This is perhaps most evident in that ''all'' of the Nasuverse properties get about equal billing, rather than the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' completely dominating, since ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' wouldn't launch for another few years. The [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival 2021 sequel]] would make up for this, at the cost of jokes about any Nasuverse series other than ''Fate'', reflecting the post-''Grand Order'' hierarchy where where, until the only thing release of the ''Tsukihime'' remake later that year, most people know knew next to nothing about the rest of the Nasuverse outside of ''Fate'' is the memes surrounding beyond [[VideoGame/MeltyBlood Neco-Arc]].the Neco-Arc memes]].
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* WidgetSeries: A fair few might characterize ''CP'' as one itself, since it's a goofy, unabashed gag show which uses a pair of ''dark psychological horror visual novels'' as source material. However, much more notable is that a couple episode ''themselves'' rely on references to other [=WJTs=], and these are so obscure outside of Japan that the vast majority of non-Japanese viewers are likely to miss the references entirely. To wit:
** The actual gimmick of Episode 5 ("Berserker's First Errand") is that it's an extended gag on a classic, long-running Japanese reality TV show called "[[http://www.ntv.co.jp/otsukai/ Hajimete No Otsukai]]" or "My First Errand". You see, Japan, being a pretty low-crime, public-safety focused country, is rather more okay with the idea of FreeRangeChildren and sending kids to do errands at younger ages than some other societies. In particular, very young kids, around 4 or so, are often sent on their very first errand... with the expectation that they'll probably screw up, and that the mistakes they make will be a teachable moment. "Hajimete" records these on film to watch the kids as they go about the errands in very adorable, kid-like ways and document the ways they get off-track. The nearest American counterpart might be ''Series/AmericasFunniestHomeVideos'', though it's ''significantly'' less mean-spirited than ''AFV'' can be. The episode's humor, of course, comes from the narrator still playing the "Hajimete" parody completely straight, complete with describing Berserker picking up a "dog" (poor Cu), and hurrying to complete his errand (while ignoring his winning the Grail War on accident). As the gimmick of the series largely doesn't even ''exist'' outside of Japan, though, it's rarely ever been exported, so most non-Japanese viewers miss the reference entirely.
*** As a side note: people might think that "Eneloop" is a BlandNameProduct for Energizer. Eneloop is a 100% real brand of rechargeables, manufactured by Panasonic.
** Episode 6 can catch people off guard because of the weird tone shifts... that seem like a joke on something, but you can't tell what. Well, that's because they, and the whole episode, are a joke on the "Renzoku Terebi Shousetsu" (literally "Serial TV Novel"), AKA the "[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asadora Asadora]]" (or "Morning Drama"), an ''incredibly'' long-running series of morning {{Soap Opera}}s. The interstitial bumpers are a direct joke on the ones used by ''Asadora'', and a lot of the contrived drama and trials and travails of Sakura during the episode are jokes about the structure of ''Asadora'' seasons and how the shows inevitably treat their (young, female) protagonists. As the shows almost ''never'' get exported (outside of record-setting ones like ''{{Series/Oshin}}'', anyway), though, it's extremely unlikely non-Japanese will understand what the episode is specifically parodying.
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*** Similarly, Aoko's Plan H being a reference to Hikaru Genji became much more hilarious after the release of the Servant Murasaki Shikibu in ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'', as Murasaki is the author of ''Genji Monogatari''.
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* MainstreamObscurity: The explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]] ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a far cry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, ''Carnival Phantasm'' predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake had both been in VaporWare status for a long time. It would take well over 15 years for ''Tsukihime'' to get new content.[[/note]] It was not until a ''decade'' after the series' release that the reboot of both the visual novel and ''VideoGame/MeltyBlood'' finally came to fruition. It wouldn't be shocking if many viewers' knowledge of ''Tsukihime'' is limited to specifically just this series. Quite tellingly, [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival the sequel series]] pretty much focuses on ''Fate Series'' (specifically ''Grand Order''), and doesn't include many references to ''Tsukihime''.

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* MainstreamObscurity: The explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]] ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a far cry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, ''Carnival Phantasm'' predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' ''Literature/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake had both been in VaporWare status for a long time. It would take well over 15 years for ''Tsukihime'' to get new content.[[/note]] It was not until a ''decade'' after the series' release that the reboot of both the visual novel and ''VideoGame/MeltyBlood'' finally came to fruition. It wouldn't be shocking if many viewers' knowledge of ''Tsukihime'' is limited to specifically just this series. Quite tellingly, [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival the sequel series]] pretty much focuses on ''Fate Series'' (specifically ''Grand Order''), and doesn't include many references to ''Tsukihime''.
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** This is perhaps most evident in that ''all'' of the Nasuverse properties get about equal billing, rather than the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' completely dominating, since ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' wouldn't launch for another few years. The [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival 2021 sequel]] would make up for this, at the cost of jokes about any Nasuverse series other than ''Fate'', reflecting its post-''Grand Order'' dominance of the franchise where the only reason anyone even remembers ''Tsukihime'' is because of the memes surrounding [[VideoGame/MeltyBlood Neco-Arc]].

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** This is perhaps most evident in that ''all'' of the Nasuverse properties get about equal billing, rather than the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' completely dominating, since ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' wouldn't launch for another few years. The [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival 2021 sequel]] would make up for this, at the cost of jokes about any Nasuverse series other than ''Fate'', reflecting its the post-''Grand Order'' dominance of the franchise hierarchy where the only reason anyone even remembers ''Tsukihime'' thing most people know about the rest of the Nasuverse outside of ''Fate'' is because of the memes surrounding [[VideoGame/MeltyBlood Neco-Arc]].
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** It is extremely appropriate for Rin and Akiha to be sharing a table with [[LightNovel/TheGardenOfSinners Azaka Kokutou]] during the episode 12 epilogue.

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** It is extremely appropriate for Rin and Akiha to be sharing a table with [[LightNovel/TheGardenOfSinners [[Literature/TheGardenOfSinners Azaka Kokutou]] during the episode 12 epilogue.
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** Sakura's portrayal is also odd to a modern fan, being presented as a BitchInSheepsClothing who actively seeks out bad situations to play the DistressedDamsel in, since she sees her role as a passive victim as the only way to win audience sympathy. When the original manga ran, she was by far the least popular of the three main heroines, being relatively unknown compared to Saber and Rin since few were familiar with her route (being the only one to not get some form of adaptation at the time) and those who had played it often considered her to be [[DamselScrappy a bland receptacle for abuse]]. ''Heaven's Feel'' has since received [[Anime/FateStayNightHeavensFeel a big-budget trilogy of movies]], so just about everyone in the fandom is at least somewhat familiar with that route, and though she's still likely the least popular of the three, Sakura's fandom now is nothing to sneeze at.

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** Sakura's portrayal is also odd to a modern fan, being presented as a BitchInSheepsClothing who actively seeks out bad situations to play the DistressedDamsel DamselInDistress in, since she sees her role as a passive victim as the only way to win audience sympathy. When the original manga ran, she was by far the least popular of the three main heroines, being relatively unknown compared to Saber and Rin since few were familiar with her route (being the only one to not get some form of adaptation at the time) and those who had played it often considered her to be [[DamselScrappy a bland receptacle for abuse]]. ''Heaven's Feel'' has since received [[Anime/FateStayNightHeavensFeel a big-budget trilogy of movies]], so just about everyone in the fandom is at least somewhat familiar with that route, and though she's still likely the least popular of the three, Sakura's fandom now is nothing to sneeze at.
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** Aoko's moments with Shiki; apparently, due to the RelationshipVoiceActor between both their respective VA's (Creator/KotonoMitsuishi and Creator/KenjiNojima), cue the later adaptations of ''Manga/SailorMoon''...

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** Aoko's moments with Shiki; apparently, due to the RelationshipVoiceActor relationship between both their respective VA's (Creator/KotonoMitsuishi and Creator/KenjiNojima), cue the later adaptations of ''Manga/SailorMoon''...
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* NightmareFuel: In an [[MoodWhiplash oddly-serious moment for such a lighthearted series]] comes a scene from episode 6 where ''Shinji tries to rape Sakura''. That's right, we get to see as Shinji pins his sister down on a bed and simply smirks and laughs as she struggles to escape and begs him to stop. Even after Rider bursts through the door with Rule Breaker in hand to signal to the audience that things are going to be ok, the horror isn't over yet as Shinji is represented as a [[SinisterSilhouettes Sinister Silhouette]] with a big SlasherSmile still laughing and moments away from having his way with Sakura right before she stabs him.

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* NightmareFuel: In an [[MoodWhiplash oddly-serious moment for such a lighthearted series]] comes a scene from episode 6 where ''Shinji tries to rape Sakura''. That's right, we get to see as Shinji pins his sister down on a bed and simply smirks and laughs as she struggles to escape and begs him to stop. Even after Rider bursts through the door with Rule Breaker in hand to signal to the audience that things are going to be ok, the horror isn't over yet as Shinji is represented as a [[SinisterSilhouettes Sinister Silhouette]] {{Sinister Silhouette|s}} with a big SlasherSmile still laughing and moments away from having his way with Sakura right before she stabs him.



** This is perhaps most evident in that ''all'' of the Nasuverse properties get about equal billing, rather than the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' completely dominating, since ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' wouldn't launch for another few years.

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** This is perhaps most evident in that ''all'' of the Nasuverse properties get about equal billing, rather than the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' completely dominating, since ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' wouldn't launch for another few years. The [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival 2021 sequel]] would make up for this, at the cost of jokes about any Nasuverse series other than ''Fate'', reflecting its post-''Grand Order'' dominance of the franchise where the only reason anyone even remembers ''Tsukihime'' is because of the memes surrounding [[VideoGame/MeltyBlood Neco-Arc]].
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* TastesLikeDiabetes:
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k62pZ_qu9k The opening]] has the most cheery music of anything associated with ''Fate/stay night'' or ''Tsukihime'' and involves the girls of the casts dancing like idol singers.
** Little Sakura in episode 6 (just ignore Shinji in the background).
** Even Caster has a moment when she's rolling around on the floor over how cute she finds Saber.
** Episode 10: "Welcome back, Shiki-chan!" Oh, Hisui!
** That whole segment, courtesy of Akiha's mind reverting back to being four years old. {{Lampshaded}} by Kohaku.
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* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: ''Carnival Phantasm'' is an interesting case, having released in 2011 but based on a manga that ran in 2004 to 2005, making it a showcase of the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} of the mid to late aughts.
** This is perhaps most evident in that ''all'' of the Nasuverse properties get about equal billing, rather than the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' completely dominating, since ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'' wouldn't launch for another few years.
** The funniest instance of this is in its RunningGag of [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer always dying]]. It made sense at the time, being based on how Lancer dies in all three routes of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' without ever really getting to show off his skill despite being strong on paper, but after ''FGO''[='=]s launch seems like a non-sequitur, given his massive pile of defensive skills making the most common joke about him being that he's now [[StoneWall practically unkillable]].
** Sakura's portrayal is also odd to a modern fan, being presented as a BitchInSheepsClothing who actively seeks out bad situations to play the DistressedDamsel in, since she sees her role as a passive victim as the only way to win audience sympathy. When the original manga ran, she was by far the least popular of the three main heroines, being relatively unknown compared to Saber and Rin since few were familiar with her route (being the only one to not get some form of adaptation at the time) and those who had played it often considered her to be [[DamselScrappy a bland receptacle for abuse]]. ''Heaven's Feel'' has since received [[Anime/FateStayNightHeavensFeel a big-budget trilogy of movies]], so just about everyone in the fandom is at least somewhat familiar with that route, and though she's still likely the least popular of the three, Sakura's fandom now is nothing to sneeze at.
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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Gil driving on a '''cliffside''' with a motorcycle.

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** The frenetically happy opening, "[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3aKe8n6NLo Super Affection]]."



** A lesser example in the same episode is how quickly Rider takes to her granny bike, even giving it a name within seconds while blushing the entire time. Quite possibly also a ContinuityNod to ''VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia'' where she offers Shirou ''anything'' in exchange for borrowing his bike (Though that was because she wanted a better bike. He had a racing bike and she had a Granny bike, which would break if she rode it at the top of her Riding Skill)

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** A lesser example in the same episode is how quickly Rider takes to her granny bike, even giving it a name within seconds while blushing the entire time. Quite possibly also a ContinuityNod to ''VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia'' where she offers Shirou ''anything'' in exchange for borrowing his bike (Though (though that was because she wanted a better bike. He had a racing bike and she had a Granny bike, which would break if she rode it at the top of her Riding Skill)Skill).



* GeniusBonus: Knowing why Berserker thinks Lancer is a dog seems completely random unless one is familar with Irish Mythology where's Lancer's basis serves as a replacement for a guard dog that he killed.

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* GeniusBonus: Knowing why Berserker thinks thinking Lancer is a dog seems completely random unless one is familar familiar with Irish Mythology where's Lancer's basis mythology, where Lancer serves as a replacement for a guard dog that he killed.



** Berserker turning into a 'Berser-Car' machine like a Transformer, after ''Grand Order'' revealed how [[spoiler: the Gods of Olympus Heracles descends from were actually alien super machines.]]
** Speaking of ''Grand Order'', the first Lancer death involves him being in a deadly game of Blackbeard... in the game, Blackbeard is a Rider-class Servant (under his real name Edward Teach) and mostly took over Lancer's ButtMonkey role. And in the sequel ''Anime/FateGrandCarnival'', he is subject to the same Blackbeard game by Ereshkigal.
** Another ''Grand Order'' example: Lancer's ButtMonkey status here is largely ironic considering he's regarded as one of the best {{Stone Wall}}s in the game. [[spoiler:It can be argued that his Caster form avoids this specifically because ''he's not really Cu Chulainn at all''--he's Odin using Cu as a vessel.]]
** Rider claims to have an "Airhead" skill in Episode 6. While this is untrue for her, Astolfo in later ''Fate'' incarnations has Evaporation of Sanity as an actual Skill.
* InformedWrongness: In the date scenario where Shiki and Shirou chose Arc and Saber over dating all the girls, they get berated by them for not saying much sooner how they felt on wanting to make all of them happy and choosing the main heroines over them. And this comes after the other girls started to go all Yandere on them for not being chosen in the first place.

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** Berserker turning into a 'Berser-Car' "Berser-Car" machine like a Transformer, after ''Grand Order'' revealed how [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Gods of Olympus Heracles descends from were actually alien super machines.]]
** Speaking of ''Grand Order'', the first Lancer death involves him being in a deadly game of Blackbeard... in Blackbeard. In the game, Blackbeard is a Rider-class Servant (under his real name Edward Teach) and mostly took over Lancer's ButtMonkey role. And in the sequel ''Anime/FateGrandCarnival'', he is subject subjected to the same Blackbeard game by Ereshkigal.
** Another ''Grand Order'' example: Lancer's ButtMonkey status here is largely ironic considering he's regarded as one of the best {{Stone Wall}}s in the game. [[spoiler:It can be argued that his Caster form avoids this specifically because ''he's not really Cu Chulainn at all''--he's all'' -- he's Odin using Cu as a vessel.]]
** Rider claims to have an "Airhead" skill in Episode episode 6. While this is untrue for her, Astolfo in later ''Fate'' incarnations has Evaporation of Sanity as an actual Skill.
* InformedWrongness: In the date scenario where Shiki and Shirou chose choose Arc and Saber over dating all the girls, they get berated by them for not saying much sooner how they felt on about wanting to make all of them happy and choosing the main heroines over them. And this comes after the other girls started to go all Yandere on them for not being chosen in the first place.



* MainstreamObscurity: Given the explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]], it ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a far cry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, ''Carnival Phantasm'' predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake had both ended up in VaporWare status for a long time. It would take well over 15 years for ''Tsukihime'' to get new content.[[/note]] It was not until a ''decade'' after the series' release that the reboot of both the visual novel and ''VideoGame/MeltyBlood'' finally came into fruition. It wouldn't be shocking if many viewers' knowledge of ''Tsukihime'' is limited to specifically just this series. Quite tellingly, [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival the sequel series]] pretty much focuses on ''Fate Series'' (specifically ''Grand Order''), and not include many references to ''Tsukihime''.

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* MainstreamObscurity: Given the The explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]], it popularity]] ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a far cry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, ''Carnival Phantasm'' predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake had both ended up been in VaporWare status for a long time. It would take well over 15 years for ''Tsukihime'' to get new content.[[/note]] It was not until a ''decade'' after the series' release that the reboot of both the visual novel and ''VideoGame/MeltyBlood'' finally came into to fruition. It wouldn't be shocking if many viewers' knowledge of ''Tsukihime'' is limited to specifically just this series. Quite tellingly, [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival the sequel series]] pretty much focuses on ''Fate Series'' (specifically ''Grand Order''), and not doesn't include many references to ''Tsukihime''.



** "LANCER/RANSA GA SHINDA" ("Lancer died!") and the response "KONO HITO DE NASHI!" ("You aren't human!"), for [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer's many deaths]]. Also used in ''Fate'' discussions when Lancer is treated as a ButtMonkey. Gets a reprise in ''Anime/FateGrandCarnival'' where it's not class-limited, every incarnations of Cu Chulainn (including Caster and Berserker/Alter) got killed hilariously and quickly enough, and the first phrase evolved into "CU CHULAINN GA SHINDA!!"
** Related with the "Unlimited XXXX Works" meme from the original ''Fate/stay night'', Episode 9 gave a new version out of the moment when Shirou keeps inserting coins into the Unit Lion to make it go faster: '''UNLIMITED COIN WORKS'''.

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** "LANCER/RANSA GA SHINDA" ("Lancer died!") and the response "KONO HITO DE NASHI!" ("You aren't human!"), for [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer's many deaths]]. Also used in ''Fate'' discussions when Lancer is treated as a ButtMonkey. Gets a reprise in ''Anime/FateGrandCarnival'' where it's not class-limited, every incarnations of Cu Chulainn (including Caster and Berserker/Alter) got gets killed hilariously and quickly enough, and the first phrase evolved evolves into "CU CHULAINN GA SHINDA!!"
** Related with to the "Unlimited XXXX Works" meme from the original ''Fate/stay night'', Episode episode 9 gave created a new version out of the moment when Shirou keeps inserting coins into the Unit Lion to make it go faster: '''UNLIMITED COIN WORKS'''.



* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Gil driving on a '''cliffside''' with a motorcycle.



** After her [[ADayInTheLimelight spotlight]] in episode 7, a lot began finding it hard to take Caster as seriously, primarily due to being depicted as an {{adorkable}} otaku. Doesn't help matters that the most well known product in the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}, ''Fate/Grand Order'', makes numerous reference to her behavior here such as a love for model making, desire to dress Altria in cute outfits, and some of her more adorkable traits.

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** After her [[ADayInTheLimelight spotlight]] in episode 7, a lot of viewers began finding it hard to take Caster as seriously, primarily due to being depicted as an {{adorkable}} otaku. Doesn't help matters that the most well known well-known product in the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}, ''Fate/Grand Order'', makes numerous reference to her behavior here such as a love for model making, making models, desire to dress Altria in cute outfits, and some of her more adorkable traits.



** For as funny as the entirety of Berserker's First Errand is in Episode 5, it's hard to forget Leysritt and her brief contribution before she gets dragged home.

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** For as funny as the entirety of Berserker's First Errand is in Episode episode 5, it's hard to forget Leysritt and her brief contribution before she gets dragged home.



* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Gil driving on a '''cliffside''' with a motorcycle.



** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k62pZ_qu9k The opening]] has the most cheery music of anything associated with Fate Stay Night or Tsukihime and involves the girls of the casts dancing like idol singers.

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k62pZ_qu9k The opening]] has the most cheery music of anything associated with Fate Stay Night ''Fate/stay night'' or Tsukihime ''Tsukihime'' and involves the girls of the casts dancing like idol singers.



* TearJerker: Episode 6. Sakura continuously accepting her abuse at Shinji's hands (except for when Shinji attempts to rape her at the end; then she starts crying for him to stop) and refusing Rider's protection, all because she rationalizes it as Shinji still being the sweet kid he was when they were children. We also get a brief flashback of them first meeting as kids (also with the reminder that Tokiomi gave her up to Zouken) and Shinji does appear that he UsedToBeASweetKid. Young Sakura still having toys and playing with them despite what Zouken is doing to her also reminds you that [[TruthInTelevision abusive families still try to act like normal families in disguise]].

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* TearJerker: Episode 6. Sakura continuously accepting her abuse at Shinji's hands (except for when Shinji attempts to rape her at the end; then she starts crying for him to stop) and refusing Rider's protection, all because she rationalizes it as Shinji still being the sweet kid he was when they were children. We also get a brief flashback of them first meeting as kids (also with the reminder that Tokiomi gave her up to Zouken) and Shinji it does appear that he Shinji UsedToBeASweetKid. Young Sakura still having toys and playing with them despite what Zouken is doing to her also reminds you that [[TruthInTelevision abusive families still try to act like normal families in disguise]].
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** Speaking of ''Grand Order'', the first Lancer death involves him being in a deadly game of Blackbeard... in the game, Blackbeard is a Rider-class Servant (under his real name Edward Teach) and mostly took over Lancer's ButtMonkey role. He just missed out the game named after him.

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** Speaking of ''Grand Order'', the first Lancer death involves him being in a deadly game of Blackbeard... in the game, Blackbeard is a Rider-class Servant (under his real name Edward Teach) and mostly took over Lancer's ButtMonkey role. He just missed out And in the sequel ''Anime/FateGrandCarnival'', he is subject to the same Blackbeard game named after him.by Ereshkigal.
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** Berserker turning into a 'Berser-Car' machine like a Transformer, after Grand Order revealed how [[spoiler: the Gods of Olympus Heracles descends from were actually alien super machines.]]

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** Berserker turning into a 'Berser-Car' machine like a Transformer, after Grand Order ''Grand Order'' revealed how [[spoiler: the Gods of Olympus Heracles descends from were actually alien super machines.]]



** Another ''Grand Order'' example: Lancer's ButtMonkey status here is largely ironic considering he's regarded as one of the best {{Stone Wall}}s in the game.

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** Another ''Grand Order'' example: Lancer's ButtMonkey status here is largely ironic considering he's regarded as one of the best {{Stone Wall}}s in the game. [[spoiler:It can be argued that his Caster form avoids this specifically because ''he's not really Cu Chulainn at all''--he's Odin using Cu as a vessel.]]



* MainstreamObscurity: Given the explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]], it ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a far cry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, ''Carnival Phantasm'' predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake had both ended up in VaporWare status for a long time. It would take well over 15 years for ''Tsukihime'' to get new content.[[/note]] It was not until a ''decade'' after the series' release that the reboot of both the visual novel and ''VideoGame/MeltyBlood'' finally came into fruition. It wouldn't be shocking if many viewers' knowledge of ''Tsukihime'' is limited to specifically just this series. Quite tellingly, [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival the sequel series]] pretty much focuses on ''Fate Series'' (specifically ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder''), and not include many references to ''Tsukihime''.

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* MainstreamObscurity: Given the explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]], it ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a far cry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, ''Carnival Phantasm'' predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake had both ended up in VaporWare status for a long time. It would take well over 15 years for ''Tsukihime'' to get new content.[[/note]] It was not until a ''decade'' after the series' release that the reboot of both the visual novel and ''VideoGame/MeltyBlood'' finally came into fruition. It wouldn't be shocking if many viewers' knowledge of ''Tsukihime'' is limited to specifically just this series. Quite tellingly, [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival the sequel series]] pretty much focuses on ''Fate Series'' (specifically ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder''), ''Grand Order''), and not include many references to ''Tsukihime''.



** After her [[ADayInTheLimelight spotlight]] in episode 7, a lot began finding it hard to take Caster as seriously, primarily due to being depicted as an {{adorkable}} otaku. Doesn't help matters that the most well known product in the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}, VideoGame/FateGrandOrder, makes numerous reference to her behavior here such as a love for model making, desire to dress Altria in cute outfits, and some of her more adorkable traits.
** Lancer's status as the ButtMonkey of the series. No matter how well he does in an installment, he will always be remembered for the [[MemeticMutation meme]] he birthed. Even when he {{iron|y}}ically became one of the hardest servants to kill in VideoGame/FateGrandOrder, he still is stuck with being the fool of the Carnival, or they still find a way to bully Lancer despite his benefits in the game (most commonly, sticking his feared teacher that could bully him no matter how many times he avoids death: Scathach).

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** After her [[ADayInTheLimelight spotlight]] in episode 7, a lot began finding it hard to take Caster as seriously, primarily due to being depicted as an {{adorkable}} otaku. Doesn't help matters that the most well known product in the Franchise/{{Nasuverse}}, VideoGame/FateGrandOrder, ''Fate/Grand Order'', makes numerous reference to her behavior here such as a love for model making, desire to dress Altria in cute outfits, and some of her more adorkable traits.
** Lancer's status as the ButtMonkey of the series. No matter how well he does in an installment, he will always be remembered for the [[MemeticMutation meme]] he birthed. Even when he {{iron|y}}ically became one of the hardest servants to kill in VideoGame/FateGrandOrder, ''Grand Order'', he still is stuck with being the fool of the Carnival, or they still find a way to bully Lancer despite his benefits in the game (most commonly, sticking his feared teacher that could bully him no matter how many times he avoids death: Scathach).
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* MainstreamObscurity: Given the explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]], it ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a far cry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, Carnival Phantasm predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake have both ended up in VaporWare status for the longest time.[[/note]] It was not until a ''decade'' after the series' release that the reboot of both the visual novel and ''VideoGame/MeltyBlood'' finally came into fruition. It wouldn't be shocking if many viewers' knowledge of ''Tsukihime'' is limited to specifically just this series. Quite tellingly, [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival the sequel series]] pretty much focuses on ''Fate Series'' (specifically ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder''), and not include many references to ''Tsukihime''.

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* MainstreamObscurity: Given the explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries'' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]], it ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a far cry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, Carnival Phantasm ''Carnival Phantasm'' predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake have had both ended up in VaporWare status for the longest time.a long time. It would take well over 15 years for ''Tsukihime'' to get new content.[[/note]] It was not until a ''decade'' after the series' release that the reboot of both the visual novel and ''VideoGame/MeltyBlood'' finally came into fruition. It wouldn't be shocking if many viewers' knowledge of ''Tsukihime'' is limited to specifically just this series. Quite tellingly, [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival the sequel series]] pretty much focuses on ''Fate Series'' (specifically ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder''), and not include many references to ''Tsukihime''.
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* MainstreamObscurity: Given the explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries''' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]], it ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a far cry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, Carnival Phantasm predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake have both ended up in VaporWare status for the longest time.[[/note]] It was not until a ''decade'' after the series' release that the reboot of both the visual novel and ''VideoGame/MeltyBlood'' finally came into fruition. It wouldn't be shocking if many viewers' knowledge of ''Tsukihime'' is limited to specifically just this series.

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* MainstreamObscurity: Given the explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries''' ''Franchise/FateSeries'' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]], it ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a far cry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, Carnival Phantasm predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake have both ended up in VaporWare status for the longest time.[[/note]] It was not until a ''decade'' after the series' release that the reboot of both the visual novel and ''VideoGame/MeltyBlood'' finally came into fruition. It wouldn't be shocking if many viewers' knowledge of ''Tsukihime'' is limited to specifically just this series. Quite tellingly, [[Anime/FateGrandCarnival the sequel series]] pretty much focuses on ''Fate Series'' (specifically ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder''), and not include many references to ''Tsukihime''.
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* MainstreamObscurity: Given the explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries''' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]], it ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a far cry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, Carnival Phantasm predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake have both been in VaporWare status for well over a decade.[[/note]] It wouldn't be too surprising if many viewers' knowledge of ''Tsukihime'' is limited to specifically just this series.

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* MainstreamObscurity: Given the explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries''' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]], it ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a far cry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, Carnival Phantasm predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake have both been ended up in VaporWare status for well over a decade.the longest time.[[/note]] It was not until a ''decade'' after the series' release that the reboot of both the visual novel and ''VideoGame/MeltyBlood'' finally came into fruition. It wouldn't be too surprising shocking if many viewers' knowledge of ''Tsukihime'' is limited to specifically just this series.

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* CrazyAwesome: Gil driving on a '''cliffside''' with a motorcycle.


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** Berserker turning into a 'Berser-Car' machine like a Transformer, after Grand Order revealed how [[spoiler: the Gods of Olympus Heracles descends from were actually alien super machines.]]
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** "LANCER/RANSA GA SHINDA" ("Lancer died!") and the response "KONO HITO DE NASHI!" ("You aren't human!"), for [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer's many deaths]]. Also used in ''Fate'' discussions when Lancer is treated as a ButtMonkey.

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** "LANCER/RANSA GA SHINDA" ("Lancer died!") and the response "KONO HITO DE NASHI!" ("You aren't human!"), for [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer's many deaths]]. Also used in ''Fate'' discussions when Lancer is treated as a ButtMonkey. Gets a reprise in ''Anime/FateGrandCarnival'' where it's not class-limited, every incarnations of Cu Chulainn (including Caster and Berserker/Alter) got killed hilariously and quickly enough, and the first phrase evolved into "CU CHULAINN GA SHINDA!!"
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** It is extremely appropriate for Rin and Akiha to be sharing a table with [[LightNovel/KaraNoKyoukai Azaka Kokutou]] during the episode 12 epilogue.

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** It is extremely appropriate for Rin and Akiha to be sharing a table with [[LightNovel/KaraNoKyoukai [[LightNovel/TheGardenOfSinners Azaka Kokutou]] during the episode 12 epilogue.
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* MainstreamObscurity: Given the explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries''' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]], it ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a farcry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, Carnival Phantasm predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake have both been in VaporWare status for well over a decade.[[/note]] It wouldn't be too surprising if many viewers' knowledge of Tsukihime is limited to specifically just this series.

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* MainstreamObscurity: Given the explosion in the ''Franchise/FateSeries''' [[CashCowFranchise popularity]], it ended up completely overshadowing ''VisualNovel/{{Tsukihime}}'', which is a farcry far cry from the two franchises being given equal billing here.[[note]]To note, Carnival Phantasm predated the release of both ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks'', which boosted the popularity of the Fate franchise to new heights. By comparison, Tsukihime's proposed sequel ''and'' remake have both been in VaporWare status for well over a decade.[[/note]] It wouldn't be too surprising if many viewers' knowledge of Tsukihime ''Tsukihime'' is limited to specifically just this series.

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