Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / BabyMetal

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ViewerNameConfusion: "Iine!" faces the same problem as "[[Music/{{Loituma}} Ievan Polkka]]", with the initial uppercase "I" being mistaken for a lowercase "l".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** During her time in Sakura Gakuin, Suzuka once guessed that the D in CD, DVD, and BD is short for [=DeLorean=], so now all their discs are called [=DeLoreans=].[[labelnote:*]]Aside from ''Film/BackToTheFuture'', she might have been inspired by the time-traveling text messages in the 2011 anime ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'' known as "[=DeLorean=] Mails", or D-Mails for short.[[/labelnote]]

to:

** During her time in Sakura Gakuin, Suzuka once guessed that the D in CD, DVD, and BD is short for [=DeLorean=], so now all their discs are called [=DeLoreans=].[[labelnote:*]]Aside from ''Film/BackToTheFuture'', ''Franchise/BackToTheFuture'', she might have been inspired by the time-traveling text messages in the 2011 anime ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'' known as "[=DeLorean=] Mails", or D-Mails for short.[[/labelnote]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Not allowed to be linked to on any pages, not even under the YMMV tab.


* SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced: Two examples.
** The "Avengers" format of June 2019[[labelnote:*]] (technically it began in December 2018 with dancer Saya Hirai joining Su & Moa on Babymetal's tour of Australian music festivals, but the "Avengers" lore didn't start until half a year later, by which time Saya had joined performance troupe Torahime-Ichiza)[[/labelnote]] to January 2023 was far more positively received by fans than the quad formation (with Minami Tsukui and Minako Maruyama) from the group's "Dark Side" 2018 tour. Additionally, Su and Moa returned to their signature hairstyles – they'd worn their hair down in 2018. Yes, Moa's pigtails and Su's ponytail are SeriousBusiness to some.
** Momoko ''finally'' becoming a full member of Babymetal after working "anonymously" alongside Su and Moa for over three years (counting the hiatus) pleased many fans – [=#GiveMomokoAMic=] was a not-uncommon refrain posted on the band's social media pages in 2021, as Riho and Kano were known to have already left.
*** The only people ''not'' happy were the tiny minority who still hoped Yui would return, as this put an end to that once and for all. But, when Babymetal finally ended its hiatus in January 2023 and announced "A New -Metal Will Be Born", the logical assumption was that Momoko, who made her first public appearance since failing ''Girls Planet 999'' 18 months earlier, would be elevated to a full member.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** With Sabaton, starting when Sabaton was one of the openers for Babymetal in 2018, continued later when Joakim featured on the ''Metal Galaxy'' track "Oh Majinai!", and solidified when Babymetal was one of the openers for Sabaton's ''Tour to End All Tours'' in Europe in 2023.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The "Avengers" format of June 2019[[labelnote:*]] (technically it began in December 2018 with dancer Saya Hirai joining Su & Moa on Babymetal's tour of Australian music festivals, but the "Avengers" lore didn't start until half a year later, by which time Saya had joined performance troupe Torahime-Ichiza)[[/labelnote]] to Jan.2023 was far more positively received by fans than the quad formation (with Minami Tsukui and Minako Maruyama) from the group's "Dark Side" 2018 tour. Additionally, Su and Moa returned to their signature hairstyles – they'd worn their hair down in 2018. Yes, Moa's pigtails and Su's ponytail are SeriousBusiness to some.

to:

** The "Avengers" format of June 2019[[labelnote:*]] (technically it began in December 2018 with dancer Saya Hirai joining Su & Moa on Babymetal's tour of Australian music festivals, but the "Avengers" lore didn't start until half a year later, by which time Saya had joined performance troupe Torahime-Ichiza)[[/labelnote]] to Jan.January 2023 was far more positively received by fans than the quad formation (with Minami Tsukui and Minako Maruyama) from the group's "Dark Side" 2018 tour. Additionally, Su and Moa returned to their signature hairstyles – they'd worn their hair down in 2018. Yes, Moa's pigtails and Su's ponytail are SeriousBusiness to some.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** At 2013's Legend 1999 concert, Moa covered "Love Machine" by Morning Musume, of which Riho Sayashi was one of the most popular members at the time. 6 years later, they got to perform together as Riho became an Avenger.

to:

** At 2013's Legend 1999 concert, Moa covered "Love Machine" by Morning Musume, of which Riho Sayashi was one of the most popular members at the time.time (to clarify, Riho wasn't the original singer, as she only joined in 2011; Morning Musume has been around since 1997). 6 years later, they got to perform together as Riho became an Avenger.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** One complaint some fans have about Momoko – other than not being Yui – is that she is at least as tall as Suzuka[[labelnote:*]] (possibly taller, although K-Pop listings are known to be untrustworthy as they often add a centimeter or two to girls' heights; for the record, ''Girls Planet 999'' listed Momoko as 162cm, 3cm above her final Sakura Gakuin measurement of 159cm – reality is probably somewhere in between)[[/labelnote]] and not at all petite, throwing off the visual "balance" Su & Moa had with Yui, Riho, and Kano.

Added: 180

Changed: 108

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
fixed mistake


* EvenBetterSequel: Most reviews rated the second album ''Metal Resistance'' somewhat better than the debut.

to:

* EvenBetterSequel: EvenBetterSequel:
**
Most reviews rated the second album ''Metal Resistance'' somewhat better than the debut.debut.
** ''The Other One'' was given a slightly higher rating by reviews than ''Metal Galaxy''.



** Momoko: Angel of Laughter, Pumpkin

to:

** Momoko: Angel of Laughter, Joy; Pumpkin



** The addition of Western musicians to the Kami Band and the Kamis wearing masks to hide their identity were not well received by some fans (the latter was considered the bigger insult).

to:

** The addition of Western musicians to the Kami Band and the Kamis wearing masks to hide their identity were not well received by some many fans (the latter was considered the bigger insult).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** During her time in Sakura Gakuin, Suzuka once guessed that the D in CD, DVD, and BD is short for [=DeLorean=], so now all their discs are called [=DeLoreans=].

to:

** During her time in Sakura Gakuin, Suzuka once guessed that the D in CD, DVD, and BD is short for [=DeLorean=], so now all their discs are called [=DeLoreans=].[[labelnote:*]]Aside from ''Film/BackToTheFuture'', she might have been inspired by the time-traveling text messages in the 2011 anime ''VisualNovel/SteinsGate'' known as "[=DeLorean=] Mails", or D-Mails for short.[[/labelnote]]

Added: 1804

Changed: 793

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
added new information


* SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced: Two examples.
** The "Avengers" format of June 2019[[labelnote:*]] (technically it began in December 2018 with dancer Saya Hirai joining Su & Moa on Babymetal's tour of Australian music festivals, but the "Avengers" lore didn't start until half a year later, by which time Saya had joined performance troupe Torahime-Ichiza)[[/labelnote]] to Jan.2023 was far more positively received by fans than the quad formation (with Minami Tsukui and Minako Maruyama) from the group's "Dark Side" 2018 tour. Additionally, Su and Moa returned to their signature hairstyles – they'd worn their hair down in 2018. Yes, Moa's pigtails and Su's ponytail are SeriousBusiness to some.
** Momoko ''finally'' becoming a full member of Babymetal after working "anonymously" alongside Su and Moa for over three years (counting the hiatus) pleased many fans – [=#GiveMomokoAMic=] was a not-uncommon refrain posted on the band's social media pages in 2021, as Riho and Kano were known to have already left.
*** The only people ''not'' happy were the tiny minority who still hoped Yui would return, as this put an end to that once and for all. But, when Babymetal finally ended its hiatus in January 2023 and announced "A New -Metal Will Be Born", the logical assumption was that Momoko, who made her first public appearance since failing ''Girls Planet 999'' 18 months earlier, would be elevated to a full member.



* FanNickname: The girls' "Angel" nicknames come in part from a series of promos the 2011-era Music/SakuraGakuin troupe did for Flet's Wifi where they all dressed as angels.[[note]] The angels were numbered by their seniority in the 2011 nendo – Suzuka was #4, Yui was #9, Moa was #10.[[/note]]

to:

* FanNickname: The girls' "Angel" nicknames come in part from a series of promos the 2011-era Music/SakuraGakuin troupe did for Flet's Wifi where they all dressed as angels.[[note]] The angels were numbered by their seniority in the 2011 nendo – Suzuka was #4, Yui was #9, Moa was #10.[[/note]][[/note]] Once it became clear Momoko had become the group's go-to backup dancer (and eventually Yui's replacement), fans tried to come up with an "Angel" nickname for her too.



** Momoko: Angel of Laughter, Pumpkin



** At the 2016 Alternative Press Music Awards, Su duets with [[Music/JudasPriest Rob Halford]] on "Painkiller" and "Breaking The Law", with Moa and Yui playing guitar[[labelnote:*]] ('''''maybe''''')[[/labelnote]] on the latter. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD85aM0VQ3o Link]]

to:

** At the 2016 Alternative Press Music Awards, Su duets with [[Music/JudasPriest Rob Halford]] on "Painkiller" and "Breaking The Law", with Moa and Yui playing guitar[[labelnote:*]] ('''''maybe''''')[[/labelnote]] on the latter. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD85aM0VQ3o Link]]Link.]] Plus, doubling as a SugarWiki/{{heartwarming moment|s}}, while it's not easily visible on the official video, fancams of the set showed Yui was incredibly nervous even by Yui standards, so Su walked up to her while singing and started swaying Yui's waist to calm her down. Later on in the set, Mikio knelt down next to Yui as he played his part to observe her guitar attempt (he ''was'' a teacher) and possibly distract her from the audience.



** In 2013's Legend 1999 concert, Moa covered "Love Machine" by Morning Musume, of which Riho Sayashi was one of the most popular members at the time. 6 years later, they got to perform together as Riho became an Avenger.
*** It has also been said that Riho often wished she could be a side dancer, as the center position carries a lot of pressure. She got exactly that as an Avenger.

to:

** In At 2013's Legend 1999 concert, Moa covered "Love Machine" by Morning Musume, of which Riho Sayashi was one of the most popular members at the time. 6 years later, they got to perform together as Riho became an Avenger.
*** It has also been said that Riho Riho, much more reserved during her teen years, often wished she could be a side dancer, as the Morning Musume's center position which she held for much of her five-year tenure carries a lot of pressure. She got exactly that as an Avenger.Avenger.
** Momoko said during an early-2017 modeling interview that she would like to "dance for an artist" – i.e. be a backup dancer. She also said on a 2016 Sakura Gakuin [=LoGiRL=] stream that, given the chance to join any club she wanted (she was already in Logica? and Mini-Pati), she'd join ''juuonbu'' – in other words, Babymetal. She got her wish.



** The music videos for "Distortion" and "Starlight" got negative reception from a lot of fans because none of the girls appear in them[[labelnote:*]] (Suzuka and Moa actually ''do'' appear in "Starlight" at the very end, but in a close-up so extreme no one realized it was them until someone noticed moles that are known to be on Su)[[/labelnote]], though Suzuka received praise for her vocals.
** The addition of Western musicians to the Kami Band and the Kamis wearing masks to hide their identity were not well received by some fans.

to:

** The music videos for "Distortion" and "Starlight" got negative reception from a lot of fans because none of the girls appear in them[[labelnote:*]] (Suzuka and Moa actually ''do'' appear in "Starlight" at the very end, but in a close-up so extreme no one realized it was them until someone noticed facial moles that are Su is known to be on Su)[[/labelnote]], have)[[/labelnote]], though Suzuka received praise for her vocals.
** The addition of Western musicians to the Kami Band and the Kamis wearing masks to hide their identity were not well received by some fans.fans (the latter was considered the bigger insult).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
BM is a trio again, but Moa is not the youngest in the current trio.


** Moa's no slouch in this department. She's [[GenkiGirl far more outgoing]] than Yui or even Su, but wears her emotions on her sleeve. She's also the shortest (by 2cm) and youngest (by 14 days) of the trio.

to:

** Moa's no slouch in this department. She's [[GenkiGirl far more outgoing]] than Yui or even Su, but wears her emotions on her sleeve. She's also the shortest (by 2cm) and youngest (by 14 days) of the original trio.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* QuirkyWork: Three {{Idol Singer}}s mix pop music with HeavyMetal.



* WidgetSeries: Three {{Idol Singer}}s mix pop music with HeavyMetal. It's very weird and very Japanese, and… well, it ''works'' and has gained quite a dedicated following.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Trope names should NEVER be changed with a pothole.


* [[WidgetSeries Widget Musicians]]: Three {{Idol Singer}}s mix pop music with HeavyMetal. It's very weird and very Japanese, and… well, it ''works'' and has gained quite a dedicated following.

to:

* [[WidgetSeries Widget Musicians]]: WidgetSeries: Three {{Idol Singer}}s mix pop music with HeavyMetal. It's very weird and very Japanese, and… well, it ''works'' and has gained quite a dedicated following.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Tastes Like Diabetes is now Sweetness Aversion and requires the work to be disliked for its cuteness. Babymetal is an extremely popular band BECAUSE of their cute elements.


* TastesLikeDiabetes: Their approach to J-metal. Earlier songs especially fit this.
Tabs MOD

Added: 1849

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FanNickname: The girls' "Angel" nicknames come in part from a series of promos the 2011-era Music/SakuraGakuin troupe did for Flet's Wifi where they all dressed as angels.[[note]] The angels were numbered by their seniority in the 2011 nendo – Suzuka was #4, Yui was #9, Moa was #10.[[/note]]
** Suzuka: Angel of Song; several variations with "Queen"[[labelnote:*]] (The Queen, Queen Su, Queen of Metal, Heavy Metal Queen, etc.)[[/labelnote]], Metal Goddess
** Yui: Angel of Dance; Princess Yui; Yui-Bot[[labelnote:*]] (due to her known perfectionism while dancing, her quiet nearly-monotone speaking voice, and also her tendency to be a little slow to react - lovingly deemed "Yui-Lag")[[/labelnote]], Tomato Queen, Chokotto Love
** Moa: Angel of Love; Super Moa-chan; Princess Moa; [[UsefulNotes/MaoZedong Chairman Moa]][[labelnote:*]] (this one comes from photographer John [=McMurtrie=] accidentally mislabeling one of his [[https://i.imgur.com/YZR6rxr.jpg Moa]] prints he put up for sale as [[https://i.imgur.com/DaV7Ea6.jpg "Mao"]])[[/labelnote]]
*** In addition, the kanji characters in her given name literally translate to "beloved" or, [[AlternateCharacterReading if read individually]], "give more, love".
** As mentioned on the Sakura Gakuin page, '''Moimoi''' (or [=MoiMoi=]) to refer to Yui and Moa collectively. Unusually, this is a ''self-invoked'' fan nickname.
** Officially, the genre of the music they play is called "kawaii metal". But, some people have dubbed it "''{{moe}}''tal", among other names. The girls themselves have been referred to by NHK as a "metal dance unit", suggesting a continuing connection to the Idol world that may or may not actually still exist.
** During her time in Sakura Gakuin, Suzuka once guessed that the D in CD, DVD, and BD is short for [=DeLorean=], so now all their discs are called [=DeLoreans=].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* [[WidgetSeries Widget Musicians]]: Three {{Idol Singer}}s mix pop music with HeavyMetal. It's very weird and very Japanese, and… well, it ''works'' and has gained quite a dedicated following.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Many Music/STU48 fans are also fans of Babymetal, since that group has many ASH graduates who look up to Su-metal. In particular, Marina Otani is a longtime Babymetal fan, and many were pleasantly surprised when Arisa Mineyoshi performed "Ijime, Dame, Zettai" in the finals of the 3rd [=AKB48=] Group No. 1 Singer Contest in December 2020.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** In 2013's Legend 1999 concert, Moa covered "Love Machine" by Morning Musume, of which Riho Sayashi was one of the most popular members at the time. 6 years later, they got to perform together as Riho became an Avenger.
*** It has also been said that Riho often wished she could be a side dancer, as the center position carries a lot of pressure. She got exactly that as an Avenger.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Suzuka was given acting training (in addition to singing lessons) during her time at Actor's School Hiroshima and twice took part in musicals. She also [[TheCameo appeared as herself]] on a later episode of ''Manga/ZettaiKarenChildren'' along with Ayami and Yuika. She enjoyed the experience and has expressed a desire to do voice work again.

to:

** Suzuka was given acting training (in addition to singing lessons) during her time at Actor's School Hiroshima and twice took part in musicals. She also [[TheCameo appeared as herself]] on a later episode of ''Manga/ZettaiKarenChildren'' ''Manga/PsychicSquad'' along with Ayami and Yuika. She enjoyed the experience and has expressed a desire to do voice work again.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

** The addition of Western musicians to the Kami Band and the Kamis wearing masks to hide their identity were not well received by some fans.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
They've now also performed at the Forum in Inglewood, CA


** Honestly, several concerts that were key to their evolution count – [=SummerSonic=] 2012[[labelnote:*]] (their first festival appearance, playing a tiny stage next to the food court; youngest group ever to perform at the festival)[[/labelnote]], Legend I[[labelnote:*]] (their first long-form show and the first appearance of Kami Band, albeit for only two songs)[[/labelnote]], Budokan[[labelnote:*]] (their largest concert up to that point, the youngest ever to headline the iconic venue, the first time Yui and Moa sang completely live, and their first show backed entirely by the Kami Band)[[/labelnote]], [=SoniSphere=] 2014[[labelnote:*]] (their first show in an English-speaking country, where they had to open the main stage and rock the socks off over 50,000 British Metalheads; and again the youngest singers to perform there)[[/labelnote]], Wembley[[labelnote:*]] (their first arena show outside Japan – only one to date – and the first Japanese act to headline ''that'' iconic venue - they didn't ''quite'' sell out all 12,500 seats, though they came very close)[[/labelnote]], Tokyo Dome[[labelnote:*]] (their largest show to date, at 55,000 per day for two days)[[/labelnote]], and LEGEND S[[labelnote:*]] (Su's triumphant return to her hometown Hiroshima for her 20th birthday, with a set design that rivaled the stages at Budokan and Tokyo Dome; plus those elaborate costumes for "The One")[[/labelnote]]

to:

** Honestly, several concerts that were key to their evolution count – [=SummerSonic=] 2012[[labelnote:*]] (their first festival appearance, playing a tiny stage next to the food court; youngest group ever to perform at the festival)[[/labelnote]], Legend I[[labelnote:*]] (their first long-form show and the first appearance of Kami Band, albeit for only two songs)[[/labelnote]], Budokan[[labelnote:*]] (their largest concert up to that point, the youngest ever to headline the iconic venue, the first time Yui and Moa sang completely live, and their first show backed entirely by the Kami Band)[[/labelnote]], [=SoniSphere=] 2014[[labelnote:*]] (their first show in an English-speaking country, where they had to open the main stage and rock the socks off over 50,000 British Metalheads; and again the youngest singers to perform there)[[/labelnote]], Wembley[[labelnote:*]] (their first arena show outside Japan – only one to date – and the first Japanese act to headline ''that'' iconic venue - they didn't ''quite'' sell out all 12,500 seats, though they came very close)[[/labelnote]], Tokyo Dome[[labelnote:*]] (their largest show to date, at 55,000 per day for two days)[[/labelnote]], and LEGEND S[[labelnote:*]] (Su's triumphant return to her hometown Hiroshima for her 20th birthday, with a set design that rivaled the stages at Budokan and Tokyo Dome; plus those elaborate costumes for "The One")[[/labelnote]]

Top