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Moving a Die For Our Ship example over from the Atelier Rorona page. Also, The Scrappy is misuse since the characters weren't hated in previous games.


* FanonDiscontinuity: ''Meruru'' was originally the last game in the Arland series, so players expected to be able to play as all three of the Arland alchemists to send off the series before the beginning of the next one. However, the developers apparently balked at the idea of having to depict Rorona (who starts the series at 14) in her 30s... thus writing a plotline where Rorona is mistakenly turned into an eight-year-old with no memories of her own history. She stays like this for the entire game. [[spoiler: In the original [=PS3=] version, she was never allowed to grow up either, implying that at best she was turned back into an amnesia ridden 14-year-old because Astrid finds that cuter. ]]Fans pretty much bounced off of ''that'' idea since even a ButtMonkey like Rorona deserved better than that, wanting to ignore it or write out that fate for her. Hence the need for the AuthorsSavingThrow from Plus to at least show ''one'' ending where Rorona became an adult again. This died off after ''Atelier Lulua'' was released and takes place later with Rorona finally allowed to be in her thirties with a daughter, hence her "child phase" went from being a disappointing send-off to just one of the many wacky things that happened to her.

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* DieForOurShip: People who like to {{ship|ping}} Rorona, whether with Sterk, Cordelia, or someone else, obviously don't like that she was turned into a child who's much too young for any kind of romance, and as a result tend to hate on Astrid for doing this.
* FanonDiscontinuity: ''Meruru'' was originally the last game in the Arland series, so players expected to be able to play as all three of the Arland alchemists to send off the series before the beginning of the next one. However, the developers apparently balked at the idea of having to depict Rorona (who starts the series at 14) in her 30s... thus writing a plotline where Rorona is mistakenly turned into an eight-year-old with no memories of her own history. She stays like this for the entire game. [[spoiler: In the original [=PS3=] version, she [[spoiler:she was never allowed to grow up either, implying that at best she was turned back into an amnesia ridden 14-year-old because Astrid finds that cuter. ]]Fans pretty much cuter.]] Fans bounced off of ''that'' idea since even a ButtMonkey like Rorona deserved better than that, wanting to ignore it or write out that fate for her. Hence the need for the AuthorsSavingThrow from Plus to at least show ''one'' ending where Rorona became an adult again. This died off after ''Atelier Lulua'' was released and takes place later with Rorona finally allowed to be in her thirties with a daughter, hence her "child phase" went from being a disappointing send-off to just one of the many wacky things that happened to her.



* TheScrappy: Rorona. She got turned into an eight-year-old between games, acts her new age, and her memories have become a complete mess. Though her Alchemic skills are still intact, she mainly refuses to use it willingly. A very large portion of fanbase was ''not'' happy with this turn. This is apparently because Gust couldn't stand to see her in her 30s. "Who wants to see a Rorona in her 30s? Not me, that's for sure!" This led to the AuthorsSavingThrow at the top of the page when it came time to make the Plus version.
** Astrid herself receives almost as much heat for doing the deed, and for not backing off from it in the original two endings resolving the plot thread. In both endings, Astrid [[spoiler: uses Meruru's research on Youth Potions to create her own... but it only ages Rorona back to a 14-year-old with no memories of the time that passed]], then quips the same line as above for her reasoning. In the "Witch's Tea Party" version of this, [[spoiler: Astrid does the same thing but also forces Totori and Meruru to take it, rendering all 3 Arland protagonists and herself to be 14 forever, citing it as an "ideal age".]] While the latter ending was clearly meant to be fanservice by showing the three Arland protagonists at roughly the same age they started their own games at and in their original costumes, the fact that this ''still'' doesn't allow Rorona to grow up again did not sit well. Some fans even treat the endings as the MoralEventHorizon.

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* TheScrappy: Rorona. She got turned into an eight-year-old between games, acts her new age, and her memories have become a complete mess. Though her Alchemic skills are still intact, she mainly refuses TheyChangedItNowItSucks: For many fans, the decision to use it willingly. A very large portion of fanbase was ''not'' happy with this turn. This is apparently because Gust couldn't stand to see her in her 30s. "Who wants to see a turn Rorona in into a child was highly unpopular, as it undid all of her 30s? Not me, that's growth throughout the previous games (and ruined any {{ship|ping}} potential), all for sure!" the sake of supposedly preserving her cuteness. This led to the AuthorsSavingThrow at the top was also seen as far more selfish and extreme than any of the page when it came time to make the Plus version.
** Astrid herself receives almost
Astrid's other {{Troll}} schemes, making her come across as much heat for doing the deed, and for not backing off from it in the original two endings resolving the plot thread. In both endings, Astrid [[spoiler: uses Meruru's research on Youth Potions to create her own... but it only ages Rorona back to a 14-year-old with no memories of the time that passed]], then quips the same line as above for her reasoning. In the "Witch's Tea Party" version of this, [[spoiler: Astrid does the same thing but also forces Totori and Meruru to take it, rendering all 3 Arland protagonists and herself to be 14 forever, citing it as an "ideal age".]] While the latter ending was clearly meant to be fanservice by showing the three Arland protagonists at roughly the same age they started their own games at and in their original costumes, the fact that this ''still'' doesn't allow Rorona to grow up again did not sit well. Some fans even treat the endings as the MoralEventHorizon.viler than intended.
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* TheScrappy: Rorona. She got turned into an eight year old between games, acts her new age, and her memories have become a complete mess. Though her Alchemic skills are still intact, she mainly refuses to use it willingly. A very large portion of fanbase was ''not'' happy with this turn. This is apparently because Gust [[ChristmasCake couldn't stand to see her in her 30s]]. "Who wants to see a Rorona in her 30s? Not me, that's for sure!" This led to the AuthorsSavingThrow at the top of the page when it came time to make the Plus version.

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* TheScrappy: Rorona. She got turned into an eight year old eight-year-old between games, acts her new age, and her memories have become a complete mess. Though her Alchemic skills are still intact, she mainly refuses to use it willingly. A very large portion of fanbase was ''not'' happy with this turn. This is apparently because Gust [[ChristmasCake couldn't stand to see her in her 30s]].30s. "Who wants to see a Rorona in her 30s? Not me, that's for sure!" This led to the AuthorsSavingThrow at the top of the page when it came time to make the Plus version.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The UpdatedRerelease adds an ending which shows Rorona as an adult after many complaints from fans from the two sides of the ocean. [[NeverLiveItDown In the end, they ''did'' want to see a Rorona in her 30s.]]
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Totori X Mimi has intentional Ship Tease and Homoerotic Subtext (that goes beyond mere subtext in certain scenes).


* LesYay: As usual. If you think Totori and Mimi going LesYay on each other is enough in the previous game, try putting Meruru ''between them''.
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Just realized having just played through these games... these aren't actually correct, there was no "sabotage". Meruru's Youth Potion doesn't actually work at all and Astrid takes up her research on her own to create the two "eternal youth" potions. I'm going to tweak this entry to be correct to the game events. Also we needed some consistency on the spoiler tags. Finally, the description of what happens in the Plus ending is pretty well covered on the page and better falls under the Authors Saving Throw entry it already has.


* TheScrappy: Rorona. She got turned into an eight year old between games, acts her new age, and her memories have become a complete mess. Though her Alchemic skills are still intact, she mainly refuses to use it willingly. A very large portion of fanbase was ''not'' happy with this turn. This is apparently because Gust [[ChristmasCake couldn't stand to see her in her 30s]]. "Who wants to see a Rorona in her 30s? Not me, that's for sure!"
** Astrid herself receives almost as much heat for doing the deed. Two of the endings make it worse! In one ending where you make a Youth Potion that restores her normal age, Astrid '''sabotages''' it to to only age her back to 14 with her memories still a wreck, with Astrid delivering the above message. In another, Witch's Tea Party, she forcefully renders all 3 Arland protagonists and herself to be 14 forever, citing it as an "ideal age". Some fans even treat the endings as the MoralEventHorizon.
** [[spoiler:Acknowledged by the game-makers in the UpdatedRerelease in which [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/681781-atelier-totori-plus-the-adventurer-of-arland/65874899 Rorona can finally be fixed back to her proper age and her memories restored WITHOUT Astrid's sabotage.]] And then ''VideoGame/AtelierLulua'' has Rorona all grown up for real.]]

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* TheScrappy: Rorona. She got turned into an eight year old between games, acts her new age, and her memories have become a complete mess. Though her Alchemic skills are still intact, she mainly refuses to use it willingly. A very large portion of fanbase was ''not'' happy with this turn. This is apparently because Gust [[ChristmasCake couldn't stand to see her in her 30s]]. "Who wants to see a Rorona in her 30s? Not me, that's for sure!"
sure!" This led to the AuthorsSavingThrow at the top of the page when it came time to make the Plus version.
** Astrid herself receives almost as much heat for doing the deed. Two of deed, and for not backing off from it in the original two endings make it worse! resolving the plot thread. In one ending where you make a Youth Potion that restores her normal age, both endings, Astrid '''sabotages''' [[spoiler: uses Meruru's research on Youth Potions to create her own... but it to to only age her ages Rorona back to 14 a 14-year-old with her no memories still a wreck, with of the time that passed]], then quips the same line as above for her reasoning. In the "Witch's Tea Party" version of this, [[spoiler: Astrid delivering does the above message. In another, Witch's Tea Party, she forcefully renders same thing but also forces Totori and Meruru to take it, rendering all 3 Arland protagonists and herself to be 14 forever, citing it as an "ideal age".]] While the latter ending was clearly meant to be fanservice by showing the three Arland protagonists at roughly the same age they started their own games at and in their original costumes, the fact that this ''still'' doesn't allow Rorona to grow up again did not sit well. Some fans even treat the endings as the MoralEventHorizon. \n** [[spoiler:Acknowledged by the game-makers in the UpdatedRerelease in which [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/681781-atelier-totori-plus-the-adventurer-of-arland/65874899 Rorona can finally be fixed back to her proper age and her memories restored WITHOUT Astrid's sabotage.]] And then ''VideoGame/AtelierLulua'' has Rorona all grown up for real.]]
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* FanonDiscontinuity: ''Meruru'' was originally the last game in the Arland series, so players expected to be able to play as all three of the Arland alchemists to send off the series before the beginning of the next one. However, the developers apparently balked at the idea of having to depict Rorona (who starts the series at 14) in her 30s... thus writing a plotline where Rorona is mistakenly turned into an eight-year-old with no memories of her own history. She stays like this for the entire game. In the original [=PS3=] version, she was never allowed to grow up either, implying that at best she was turned back into an amnesia ridden 14-year-old because Astrid finds that cuter. Fans pretty much bounced off of ''that'' idea since even a ButtMonkey like Rorona deserved better than that, wanting to ignore it or write out that fate for her. Hence the need for the AuthorsSavingThrow from Plus to at least show ''one'' ending where Rorona became an adult again. This died off after ''Atelier Lulua'' was released and takes place later with Rorona finally allowed to be in her thirties with a daughter, hence her "child phase" went from being a disappointing send-off to just one of the many wacky things that happened to her.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: ''Meruru'' was originally the last game in the Arland series, so players expected to be able to play as all three of the Arland alchemists to send off the series before the beginning of the next one. However, the developers apparently balked at the idea of having to depict Rorona (who starts the series at 14) in her 30s... thus writing a plotline where Rorona is mistakenly turned into an eight-year-old with no memories of her own history. She stays like this for the entire game. [[spoiler: In the original [=PS3=] version, she was never allowed to grow up either, implying that at best she was turned back into an amnesia ridden 14-year-old because Astrid finds that cuter. Fans ]]Fans pretty much bounced off of ''that'' idea since even a ButtMonkey like Rorona deserved better than that, wanting to ignore it or write out that fate for her. Hence the need for the AuthorsSavingThrow from Plus to at least show ''one'' ending where Rorona became an adult again. This died off after ''Atelier Lulua'' was released and takes place later with Rorona finally allowed to be in her thirties with a daughter, hence her "child phase" went from being a disappointing send-off to just one of the many wacky things that happened to her.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: ''Meruru'' was originally the last game in the Arland series, so players expected to be able to play as all three of the Arland alchemists to send off the series before the beginning of the next one. However, the developers apparently balked at the idea of having to depict Rorona (who starts the series at 14) in her 30s... thus writing a plotline where Rorona is mistakenly turned into an eight-year-old with no memories of her own history. She stays like this for the entire game. In the original PS3 version, she was never allowed to grow up either, implying that at best she was turned back into an amnesia ridden 14-year-old because Astrid finds that cuter. Fans pretty much bounced off of ''that'' idea since even a ButtMonkey like Rorona deserved better than that, wanting to ignore it or write out that fate for her. Hence the need for the AuthorsSavingThrow from Plus to at least show ''one'' ending where Rorona became an adult again. This died off after ''Atelier Lulua'' was released and takes place later with Rorona finally allowed to be in her thirties with a daughter, hence her "child phase" went from being a disappointing send-off to just one of the many wacky things that happened to her.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: ''Meruru'' was originally the last game in the Arland series, so players expected to be able to play as all three of the Arland alchemists to send off the series before the beginning of the next one. However, the developers apparently balked at the idea of having to depict Rorona (who starts the series at 14) in her 30s... thus writing a plotline where Rorona is mistakenly turned into an eight-year-old with no memories of her own history. She stays like this for the entire game. In the original PS3 [=PS3=] version, she was never allowed to grow up either, implying that at best she was turned back into an amnesia ridden 14-year-old because Astrid finds that cuter. Fans pretty much bounced off of ''that'' idea since even a ButtMonkey like Rorona deserved better than that, wanting to ignore it or write out that fate for her. Hence the need for the AuthorsSavingThrow from Plus to at least show ''one'' ending where Rorona became an adult again. This died off after ''Atelier Lulua'' was released and takes place later with Rorona finally allowed to be in her thirties with a daughter, hence her "child phase" went from being a disappointing send-off to just one of the many wacky things that happened to her.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The UpdatedRerelease adds an ending who shows Rorona as an adult after many complaints from fans from the two sides of the ocean. [[NeverLiveItDown In the end, they ''did'' want to see a Rorona in her 30s.]]
* FanonDiscontinuity: "Who wants to see a Rorona in her 30s? Not me, that's for sure!"

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The UpdatedRerelease adds an ending who which shows Rorona as an adult after many complaints from fans from the two sides of the ocean. [[NeverLiveItDown In the end, they ''did'' want to see a Rorona in her 30s.]]
* FanonDiscontinuity: "Who wants ''Meruru'' was originally the last game in the Arland series, so players expected to see a be able to play as all three of the Arland alchemists to send off the series before the beginning of the next one. However, the developers apparently balked at the idea of having to depict Rorona (who starts the series at 14) in her 30s? Not me, that's 30s... thus writing a plotline where Rorona is mistakenly turned into an eight-year-old with no memories of her own history. She stays like this for sure!"the entire game. In the original PS3 version, she was never allowed to grow up either, implying that at best she was turned back into an amnesia ridden 14-year-old because Astrid finds that cuter. Fans pretty much bounced off of ''that'' idea since even a ButtMonkey like Rorona deserved better than that, wanting to ignore it or write out that fate for her. Hence the need for the AuthorsSavingThrow from Plus to at least show ''one'' ending where Rorona became an adult again. This died off after ''Atelier Lulua'' was released and takes place later with Rorona finally allowed to be in her thirties with a daughter, hence her "child phase" went from being a disappointing send-off to just one of the many wacky things that happened to her.


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** [[spoiler:Acknowledged by the game-makers in the UpdatedRerelease in which [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/681781-atelier-totori-plus-the-adventurer-of-arland/65874899 Rorona can finally be fixed back to her proper age and her memories restored WITHOUT Astrid's sabotage.]]]]

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** [[spoiler:Acknowledged by the game-makers in the UpdatedRerelease in which [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/681781-atelier-totori-plus-the-adventurer-of-arland/65874899 Rorona can finally be fixed back to her proper age and her memories restored WITHOUT Astrid's sabotage.]]]]]] And then ''VideoGame/AtelierLulua'' has Rorona all grown up for real.]]
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Generally the reaction the game got on both sides of the Pacific. In Japan it was the highest-reviewed Atelier game since the original release of ''Atelier Marie'' all the way back in '''1997''' (until ''[[AtelierEschaAndLogyAlchemistsOfTheDuskSky Escha & Logy]]'' took that crown, anyway), and it's the best-selling Atelier game in ten dog's ages. The reaction was [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/atelier-meruru-the-apprentice-of-arland/critic-reviews a little more varied]] among critics on the other side of the pond, but the ''high'' scores remain among the highest the entire franchise has ever seen in Anglophone publications by a county mile.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Generally the reaction the game got on both sides of the Pacific. In Japan it was the highest-reviewed Atelier game since the original release of ''Atelier Marie'' all the way back in '''1997''' (until ''[[AtelierEschaAndLogyAlchemistsOfTheDuskSky ''[[VideoGame/AtelierEschaAndLogyAlchemistsOfTheDuskSky Escha & Logy]]'' took that crown, anyway), and it's the best-selling Atelier game in ten dog's ages. The reaction was [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/atelier-meruru-the-apprentice-of-arland/critic-reviews a little more varied]] among critics on the other side of the pond, but the ''high'' scores remain among the highest the entire franchise has ever seen in Anglophone publications by a county mile.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Everybody's super finishing moves. Double if you use them to win a battle, as each character gets a special theme for this and an altered attack sequence.



* HilariousInHindsight: Sterk's comments about a tiny rock that could endanger Meruru was funny on its own. Cue Meruru asking what kind of rock is dangerous anyway. [[VideoGame/AgarestSenki Oh if she only knew...]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNdJTKGmZ-g&feature=share&list=PL09FAAE37845C9838 Lampshaded to hell]] and back in this [[CrowningMomentOfFunny video]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: Sterk's comments about a tiny rock that could endanger Meruru was funny on its own. Cue Meruru asking what kind of rock is dangerous anyway. [[VideoGame/AgarestSenki Oh if she only knew...]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNdJTKGmZ-g&feature=share&list=PL09FAAE37845C9838 Lampshaded to hell]] and back in this [[CrowningMomentOfFunny [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments video]].
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Generally the reaction the game's gotten on both sides of the Pacific. In Japan it was the highest-reviewed Atelier game since the original release of ''Atelier Marie'' all the way back in '''1997''' (until ''[[AtelierEschaAndLogyAlchemistsOfTheDuskSky Escha & Logy]]'' took that crown, anyway), and it's the best-selling Atelier game in ten dog's ages. The reaction has been [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/atelier-meruru-the-apprentice-of-arland/critic-reviews a little more varied]] among critics on the other side of the pond, but the ''high'' scores are among the highest the entire franchise has ever seen here by a county mile.
* TheScrappy: Rorona. She got turned into an eight year old between games, acts her new age, and her memories have become a complete mess. Though her Alchemic skills are still in tact, she mainly refuses to use it willingly. A very large portion of fanbase is not pleased. This is apparently because Gust [[ChristmasCake couldn't stand to see her in her 30s]]. "Who wants to see a Rorona in her 30s? Not me, that's for sure!"

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Generally the reaction the game's gotten game got on both sides of the Pacific. In Japan it was the highest-reviewed Atelier game since the original release of ''Atelier Marie'' all the way back in '''1997''' (until ''[[AtelierEschaAndLogyAlchemistsOfTheDuskSky Escha & Logy]]'' took that crown, anyway), and it's the best-selling Atelier game in ten dog's ages. The reaction has been was [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/atelier-meruru-the-apprentice-of-arland/critic-reviews a little more varied]] among critics on the other side of the pond, but the ''high'' scores are remain among the highest the entire franchise has ever seen here in Anglophone publications by a county mile.
* TheScrappy: Rorona. She got turned into an eight year old between games, acts her new age, and her memories have become a complete mess. Though her Alchemic skills are still in tact, intact, she mainly refuses to use it willingly. A very large portion of fanbase is not pleased.was ''not'' happy with this turn. This is apparently because Gust [[ChristmasCake couldn't stand to see her in her 30s]]. "Who wants to see a Rorona in her 30s? Not me, that's for sure!"
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The UpdatedRerelease adds an ending who shows Rorona as an adult after many complaints from fans from the two sides of the ocean. [[NeverLiveItDown In the end, they ''did'' want to see a Rorona in her 30s.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: Sterk's comments about a tiny rock that could endanger Meruru was funny on its own. Cue Meruru asking what kind of rock is dangerous anyway. [[AgarestSenki Oh if she only knew...]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNdJTKGmZ-g&feature=share&list=PL09FAAE37845C9838 Lampshaded to hell]] and back in this [[CrowningMomentOfFunny video]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: Sterk's comments about a tiny rock that could endanger Meruru was funny on its own. Cue Meruru asking what kind of rock is dangerous anyway. [[AgarestSenki [[VideoGame/AgarestSenki Oh if she only knew...]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNdJTKGmZ-g&feature=share&list=PL09FAAE37845C9838 Lampshaded to hell]] and back in this [[CrowningMomentOfFunny video]].
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* CanonSue: Meruru's a rather lovable, non-annoying version. [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess]]? Check. Everyone instantly adores her? Check. [[FixerSue Ability to solve everybody's personal problems]]? Check. Personally responsible for the entire kingdom's future? Check. HeroicSelfDeprecation? Check, when she's not trying to annoy Rufus. Stronger than any of her highly talented predecessors? According to Astrid (admittedly, not the most reliable source), check. PluckyGirl who can achieve anything and everything she sets her mind to? Double check. ''Gets a statue constructed in her honour?'' Triple check!
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* TheScrappy: Rorona. She got turned into an eight year old between games, acts her new age, and her memories have becomea complete mess. Though her Alchemic skills are still in tact, she mainly refuses to use it willingly. A very large portion of fanbase is not pleased. This is apparently because Gust [[ChristmasCake couldn't stand to see her in her 30s]]. "Who wants to see a Rorona in her 30s? Not me, that's for sure!"

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* TheScrappy: Rorona. She got turned into an eight year old between games, acts her new age, and her memories have becomea become a complete mess. Though her Alchemic skills are still in tact, she mainly refuses to use it willingly. A very large portion of fanbase is not pleased. This is apparently because Gust [[ChristmasCake couldn't stand to see her in her 30s]]. "Who wants to see a Rorona in her 30s? Not me, that's for sure!"

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* TheScrappy: Astrid gets a lot of this for what she did to Rorona. Little Girl Rorona herself receives this treatment, as well.
** [[spoiler:Acknowledged by the game-makers in the UpdatedRerelease in which [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/681781-atelier-totori-plus-the-adventurer-of-arland/65874899 Rorona can finally be fixed back to her proper age.]]]]

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* TheScrappy: Astrid gets a lot of this for what she did to Rorona. Little Girl She got turned into an eight year old between games, acts her new age, and her memories have becomea complete mess. Though her Alchemic skills are still in tact, she mainly refuses to use it willingly. A very large portion of fanbase is not pleased. This is apparently because Gust [[ChristmasCake couldn't stand to see her in her 30s]]. "Who wants to see a Rorona in her 30s? Not me, that's for sure!"
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much heat for doing the deed. Two of the endings make it worse! In one ending where you make a Youth Potion that restores her normal age, Astrid '''sabotages''' it to to only age her back to 14 with her memories still a wreck, with Astrid delivering the above message. In another, Witch's Tea Party, she forcefully renders all 3 Arland protagonists and herself to be 14 forever, citing it as an "ideal age". Some fans even treat the endings as the MoralEventHorizon.
** [[spoiler:Acknowledged by the game-makers in the UpdatedRerelease in which [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/681781-atelier-totori-plus-the-adventurer-of-arland/65874899 Rorona can finally be fixed back to her proper age.age and her memories restored WITHOUT Astrid's sabotage.]]]]
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Generally the reaction the game's gotten on both sides of the Pacific. In Japan it was the highest-reviewed Atelier game since the original release of ''Atelier Marie'' all the way back in '''1997''' (until Escha & Logy took that crown, at least), and it's the best-selling Atelier game in ten dog's ages. The reaction has been [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/atelier-meruru-the-apprentice-of-arland/critic-reviews a little more varied]] among critics on the other side of the pond, but the ''high'' scores are among the highest the entire franchise has ever seen here by a county mile.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Generally the reaction the game's gotten on both sides of the Pacific. In Japan it was the highest-reviewed Atelier game since the original release of ''Atelier Marie'' all the way back in '''1997''' (until ''[[AtelierEschaAndLogyAlchemistsOfTheDuskSky Escha & Logy Logy]]'' took that crown, at least), anyway), and it's the best-selling Atelier game in ten dog's ages. The reaction has been [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/atelier-meruru-the-apprentice-of-arland/critic-reviews a little more varied]] among critics on the other side of the pond, but the ''high'' scores are among the highest the entire franchise has ever seen here by a county mile.
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Generally the reaction the game's gotten on both sides of the Pacific. In Japan it's the highest-reviewed Atelier game since the original release of ''Atelier Marie'' all the way back in '''1997''', and it's the best-selling Atelier game in ten dog's ages. The reaction has been [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/atelier-meruru-the-apprentice-of-arland/critic-reviews a little more varied]] among critics on the other side of the pond, but the ''high'' scores are the highest the entire franchise has ever seen here by a country mile.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Generally the reaction the game's gotten on both sides of the Pacific. In Japan it's it was the highest-reviewed Atelier game since the original release of ''Atelier Marie'' all the way back in '''1997''', '''1997''' (until Escha & Logy took that crown, at least), and it's the best-selling Atelier game in ten dog's ages. The reaction has been [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/atelier-meruru-the-apprentice-of-arland/critic-reviews a little more varied]] among critics on the other side of the pond, but the ''high'' scores are among the highest the entire franchise has ever seen here by a country county mile.
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* CanonSue: Meruru's a rather lovable, non-annoying version. [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess]]? Check. Everyone instantly adores her? Check. [[FixerSue Ability to solve everybody's personal problems]]? Check. Personally responsible for the entire kingdom's future? Check. HeroicSelfDeprecation? Check, when she's not trying to annoy Rufus. Stronger than any of her highly talented predecessors? According to Astrid (admittedly, not the most reliable source), check. PluckyGirl who can achieve anything and everything she sets her mind to? Double check. ''Gets a statue constructed in her honour?'' Triple check!
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* TheScrappy: Astrid gets a lot of this for what she did to Rorona. Little Girl Rorona herself receives this treatment, as well.

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* TheScrappy: Astrid gets a lot of this for what she did to Rorona. Little Girl Rorona herself receives this treatment, as well.well.
** [[spoiler:Acknowledged by the game-makers in the UpdatedRerelease in which [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/681781-atelier-totori-plus-the-adventurer-of-arland/65874899 Rorona can finally be fixed back to her proper age.]]]]
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* GameBreaker: Syntehsize the best equipment in your first playthrough and NewGamePlus is a cakewalk.

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* GameBreaker: Syntehsize Synthesize the best equipment in your first playthrough and NewGamePlus is a cakewalk.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Everybody's super finishing moves.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Everybody's super finishing moves. Double if you use them to win a battle, as each character gets a special theme for this and an altered attack sequence.


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* GameBreaker: Syntehsize the best equipment in your first playthrough and NewGamePlus is a cakewalk.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Sterk's comments about a tiny rock that could endanger Meruru was funny on its own. Cue Meruru asking what kind of rock is dangerous anyway. [[AgarestSenki Oh if she only knew...]] [[hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNdJTKGmZ-g&list=PL09FAAE37845C9838&index=137 Lampshaded to hell]] and back in this [[CrowningMomentOfFunny video]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: Sterk's comments about a tiny rock that could endanger Meruru was funny on its own. Cue Meruru asking what kind of rock is dangerous anyway. [[AgarestSenki Oh if she only knew...]] [[hhttps://www.[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNdJTKGmZ-g&list=PL09FAAE37845C9838&index=137 com/watch?v=UNdJTKGmZ-g&feature=share&list=PL09FAAE37845C9838 Lampshaded to hell]] and back in this [[CrowningMomentOfFunny video]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: Sterk's comments about a tiny rock that could endanger Meruru was funny on its own. Cue Meruru asking what kind of rock is dangerous anyway. [[AgarestSenki Oh if she only knew...]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uupo8CMXtJU Lampshaded to hell]] and back in this [[CrowningMomentOfFunny video]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: Sterk's comments about a tiny rock that could endanger Meruru was funny on its own. Cue Meruru asking what kind of rock is dangerous anyway. [[AgarestSenki Oh if she only knew...]] [[https://www.[[hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uupo8CMXtJU com/watch?v=UNdJTKGmZ-g&list=PL09FAAE37845C9838&index=137 Lampshaded to hell]] and back in this [[CrowningMomentOfFunny video]].
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* HilariousInHindsight: Sterk's comments about a tiny rock that could endanger Meruru was funny on its own. Cue Meruru asking what kind of rock is dangerous anyway. [[AgarestSenki Oh if she only knew...]] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uupo8CMXtJU Lampshaded to hell]] and back in this [[CrowningMomentOfFunny video]].
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Everybody's super finishing moves.
* FanonDiscontinuity: "Who wants to see a Rorona in her 30s? Not me, that's for sure!"
* LesYay: As usual. If you think Totori and Mimi going LesYay on each other is enough in the previous game, try putting Meruru ''between them''.
* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Generally the reaction the game's gotten on both sides of the Pacific. In Japan it's the highest-reviewed Atelier game since the original release of ''Atelier Marie'' all the way back in '''1997''', and it's the best-selling Atelier game in ten dog's ages. The reaction has been [[http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/atelier-meruru-the-apprentice-of-arland/critic-reviews a little more varied]] among critics on the other side of the pond, but the ''high'' scores are the highest the entire franchise has ever seen here by a country mile.
* TheScrappy: Astrid gets a lot of this for what she did to Rorona. Little Girl Rorona herself receives this treatment, as well.

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