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* BetterThanCanon: Many viewers see it as this compared to ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDWIssue34To37 Siege of the Crystal Empire]]'', handling the same plot (King Sombra survived his 'death' and plans to try and retake the Empire while having a MoralityPet that makes him question his actions) with many similar plot points (Sombra is involved and influenced by another great evil [[spoiler:who he in some way releases to launch a new attack on the Crystal Empire and performs a HeroicSacrifice involving the Crystal Heart to put back down while redeeming himself, after which he's resurrected as a normal unicorn to live peacefully with said MoralityPet]]), but handles them much better and the plot makes much more sense.
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* WhatAnIdiot: When Sombra [[spoiler: decides "screw it", and just tries to take over the Crystal Empire again, he finds that the princesses are prepared for such a thing. So what does Uber Sombra do? Why take over Sombra's mind and attack everyone of course! Is it any wonder that Sombra kicked him out of his head after that?]]

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** Whether or not Sombra's backsliding is believable given everything that happened or has happened too many times resulting in DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
** [[spoiler:Uber Sombra performing a BodySurf into Cadence.]] Some view it as a needless twist adding more DarknessInducedAudienceApathy to the story, others view it as a natural climax that [[spoiler:gives Sombra [[MyGreatestSecondChance a chance to properly atone for murdering the Princess he was sworn to protect by saving another Princess.]]]]
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The amount of backsliding Sombra makes has caused this for some viewers. Whenever it looks like Sombra is going to truly change, Uber Sombra or other outside interference results in him backsliding, ending with him [[spoiler:invading the Empire after trapping Coffee Swirl in a crystal]]. And when [[spoiler:Sombra finally does undergo lasting CharacterDevelopment and decides to expel Uber Sombra for good]], it quickly turns out to be AllForNothing: [[spoiler:Uber Sombra simply escapes and finds a different host (Cadance).]]

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** Whether or not Sombra's backsliding is believable given everything that happened or has happened too many times resulting in DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
becoming TooBleakStoppedCaring.
** [[spoiler:Uber Sombra performing a BodySurf into Cadence.]] Some view it as a needless twist adding more DarknessInducedAudienceApathy reactions of TooBleakStoppedCaring to the story, others view it as a natural climax that [[spoiler:gives Sombra [[MyGreatestSecondChance a chance to properly atone for murdering the Princess he was sworn to protect by saving another Princess.]]]]
* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The amount of backsliding Sombra makes has caused this for some viewers. Whenever it looks like Sombra is going to truly change, Uber Sombra or other outside interference results in him backsliding, ending with him [[spoiler:invading the Empire after trapping Coffee Swirl in a crystal]]. And when [[spoiler:Sombra finally does undergo lasting CharacterDevelopment and decides to expel Uber Sombra for good]], it quickly turns out to be AllForNothing: [[spoiler:Uber Sombra simply escapes and finds a different host (Cadance).]]
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* TooBleakStoppedCaring: The amount of backsliding Sombra makes has caused this for some viewers. Whenever it looks like Sombra is going to truly change, Uber Sombra or other outside interference results in him backsliding, ending with him [[spoiler:invading the Empire after trapping Coffee Swirl in a crystal]]. And when [[spoiler:Sombra finally does undergo lasting CharacterDevelopment and decides to expel Uber Sombra for good]], it quickly turns out to be AllForNothing: [[spoiler:Uber Sombra simply escapes and finds a different host (Cadance).]]
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** In a cameo in [[https://askmovieslate.tumblr.com/post/628706204572663809/seriously-though-that-sure-escalated-quickly Ask Movie Slate]] it's revealed [[spoiler: Coffee Talk and Kingsley/Sombra got married.]]

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome:
** [[spoiler:[[http://ask-king-sombra.tumblr.com/post/140372408244/there-is-definitely-a-lot-of-things-to-apologize Sombra finally accepting the awful things he did]], and giving a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to Uber Sombra.]]
** [[spoiler:Sombra sacrificing himself to permanently destroy Uber Sommbra.]]
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming:

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome:
** [[spoiler:[[http://ask-king-sombra.
DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The amount of backsliding Sombra makes has caused this for some viewers. Whenever it looks like Sombra is going to truly change, Uber Sombra or other outside interference results in him backsliding, ending with him [[spoiler:invading the Empire after trapping Coffee Swirl in a crystal]]. And when [[spoiler:Sombra finally does undergo lasting CharacterDevelopment and decides to expel Uber Sombra for good]], it quickly turns out to be AllForNothing: [[spoiler:Uber Sombra simply escapes and finds a different host (Cadance).]]
* FridgeHorror: If [[spoiler: Cadence]] wants to kill Sombra for what he's done, one can only imagine what she wants to do to Chrysalis and the changelings.
* GeniusBonus: [[http://ask-king-sombra.
tumblr.com/post/140372408244/there-is-definitely-a-lot-of-things-to-apologize com/post/120667284559/bro-seriously-we-need-to-fix-that-bro Sombra finally accepting doesn't know what chocolate is]], which makes sense, as in RealLife it wasn't introduced to Europe until about five hundred years ago, during which time Sombra and the awful things he did]], and giving a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to Uber Sombra.]]
** [[spoiler:Sombra sacrificing himself to permanently destroy Uber Sommbra.]]
Crystal Empire would still have been sealed away.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The amount of backsliding Sombra makes has caused this for some viewers. Whenever it looks like Sombra is going to truly change, Uber Sombra or other outside interference results in him backsliding, ending with him [[spoiler:invading the Empire after trapping Coffee Swirl in a crystal]]. And when [[spoiler:Sombra finally does undergo lasting CharacterDevelopment and decides to expel Uber Sombra for good]], it quickly turns out to be AllForNothing: [[spoiler:Uber Sombra simply escapes and finds a different host (Cadance).]]
* FridgeHorror: If [[spoiler: Cadence]] wants to kill Sombra for what he's done, one can only imagine what she wants to do to Chrysalis and the changelings.
* GeniusBonus: [[http://ask-king-sombra.tumblr.com/post/120667284559/bro-seriously-we-need-to-fix-that-bro Sombra doesn't know what chocolate is]], which makes sense, as in RealLife it wasn't introduced to Europe until about five hundred years ago, during which time Sombra and the Crystal Empire would still have been sealed away.


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** [[spoiler:[[http://ask-king-sombra.tumblr.com/post/140372408244/there-is-definitely-a-lot-of-things-to-apologize Sombra finally accepting the awful things he did]], and giving a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to Uber Sombra.]]
** [[spoiler:Sombra sacrificing himself to permanently destroy Uber Sommbra.]]
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* WhatAnIdiot: When Sombra [[spoiler: decides "screw it", and just tries to take over the Crystal Empire again, he finds that the princesses are prepared for such a thing. So what does Uber Sombra do? Why take over Sombra's mind and attack everyone of course! Is it any wonder that Sombra kicked him out of his head after that?]]

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* WhatAnIdiot: When Sombra [[spoiler: decides "screw it", and just tries to take over the Crystal Empire again, he finds that the princesses are prepared for such a thing. So what does Uber Sombra do? Why take over Sombra's mind and attack everyone of course! Is it any wonder that Sombra kicked him out of his head after that?]]that?]]
* TheWoobie: Coffee Talk, at least at the start of the comic. She's been kidnapped by [[TheCaligula King Sombra]] and forced to host his talk show (he's that crazy) when all she wanted to do was report on the Crystal Empire (she's a reporter). Not only does she have to put up with Sombra's craziness, it's revealed that [[spoiler:[[CerebusRetcon King Sombra was blown to bits by the Crystal Heart after absorbing Coffee Talk in his shadow form, and now both of them are trapped inside his imagination in the horn fragment that was sent flying by the explosion]], and Coffee Talk may be ''trapped forever''. Worse yet, the Princesses are aware of her predicament but incapable of actually helping her.]] As if all that isn't enough, [[spoiler:she runs into a part of Sombra's mind that gives her a BreakingLecture]]. The poor girl just can't catch a break!
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* BetterThanCanon: Many viewers see it as this compared to ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicIDWIssue34To37 Siege of the Crystal Empire]]'', handling the same plot (King Sombra survived his 'death' and plans to try and retake the Empire while having a MoralityPet that makes him question his actions) with many similar plot points (Sombra is involved and influenced by another great evil [[spoiler:who he in some way releases to launch a new attack on the Crystal Empire and performs a HeroicSacrifice involving the Crystal Heart to put back down while redeeming himself, after which he's resurrected as a normal unicorn to live peacefully with said MoralityPet]]), but handles them much better and the plot makes much more sense.

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: [[spoiler:[[http://ask-king-sombra.tumblr.com/post/140372408244/there-is-definitely-a-lot-of-things-to-apologize Sombra finally accepting the awful things he did]], and giving a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to Uber Sombra.]]

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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: CrowningMomentOfAwesome:
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[[spoiler:[[http://ask-king-sombra.tumblr.com/post/140372408244/there-is-definitely-a-lot-of-things-to-apologize Sombra finally accepting the awful things he did]], and giving a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown to Uber Sombra.]]
** [[spoiler:Sombra sacrificing himself to permanently destroy Uber Sommbra.
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** Showing just how far he's come: [[spoiler:Sombra [[http://ask-king-sombra.tumblr.com/post/145036153804/both-metaphorically-and-literally choosing not to risk killing Cadence]] and [[IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight try instead to convince her to reject the Uber entity]].]]

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** Showing just how far he's come: [[spoiler:Sombra [[http://ask-king-sombra.tumblr.com/post/145036153804/both-metaphorically-and-literally choosing not to risk killing Cadence]] and [[IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight try instead to convince her to reject the Uber entity]]. When that fails, he opts instead to [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice himself]] by luring Uber into him so the Heart can be used to defeat him.]]
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The amount of backsliding Sombra makes has caused this for some viewers. Whenever it looks like Sombra is going to truly change, Uber Sombra or other outside interference results in him backsliding, ending with him [[spoiler:invading the Empire after trapping Coffee Swirl in a crystal]]. And when [[spoiler:Sombra finally does undergo lasting CharacterDevelopment and decides to expel Uber Sombra for good]], it quickly turns out to be AllForNothing -- [[spoiler:Uber Sombra simply escapes and finds a different host (Cadance).]]

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The amount of backsliding Sombra makes has caused this for some viewers. Whenever it looks like Sombra is going to truly change, Uber Sombra or other outside interference results in him backsliding, ending with him [[spoiler:invading the Empire after trapping Coffee Swirl in a crystal]]. And when [[spoiler:Sombra finally does undergo lasting CharacterDevelopment and decides to expel Uber Sombra for good]], it quickly turns out to be AllForNothing -- AllForNothing: [[spoiler:Uber Sombra simply escapes and finds a different host (Cadance).]]
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* FridgeHorror: If [[spoiler: Cadence]] wants to kill Sombra for what he's done, one can only imagine what she wants to do to Chrysalis and the changelings.

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* BrokenBase: Whether or not Sombra's backsliding is believable given everything that happened or has happened too many times resulting in DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.

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Whether or not Sombra's backsliding is believable given everything that happened or has happened too many times resulting in DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
** [[spoiler:Uber Sombra performing a BodySurf into Cadence.]] Some view it as a needless twist adding more DarknessInducedAudienceApathy to the story, others view it as a natural climax that [[spoiler:gives Sombra [[MyGreatestSecondChance a chance to properly atone for murdering the Princess he was sworn to protect by saving another Princess.]]]]
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** Showing just how far he's come: [[spoiler:Sombra [[http://ask-king-sombra.tumblr.com/post/145036153804/both-metaphorically-and-literally choosing not to risk killing Cadence]] and [[IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight try instead to convince her to reject the Uber entity]].]]
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The amount of backsliding Sombra makes has caused this for some viewers. Whenever it looks like Sombra is going to truly change, Uber Sombra or other outside interference results in him backsliding, ending with him [[spoiler:invading the Empire after trapping Coffee Swirl in a crystal]].

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: The amount of backsliding Sombra makes has caused this for some viewers. Whenever it looks like Sombra is going to truly change, Uber Sombra or other outside interference results in him backsliding, ending with him [[spoiler:invading the Empire after trapping Coffee Swirl in a crystal]]. And when [[spoiler:Sombra finally does undergo lasting CharacterDevelopment and decides to expel Uber Sombra for good]], it quickly turns out to be AllForNothing -- [[spoiler:Uber Sombra simply escapes and finds a different host (Cadance).]]
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** In spite of everything [[spoiler: http://ask-king-sombra.tumblr.com/post/121972400511/yyeahhhhhhh-coffeeeeeee Sombra's parents kept his old jousting helmet.]] Added points for [[spoiler: Coffee Talk stealing it to show Sombra.]]

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** In spite of everything [[spoiler: http://ask-king-sombra.[[http://ask-king-sombra.tumblr.com/post/121972400511/yyeahhhhhhh-coffeeeeeee Sombra's parents kept his old jousting helmet.]] ]]]] Added points for [[spoiler: Coffee Talk stealing it to show Sombra.]]
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** In spite of everything [[spoiler: http://ask-king-sombra.tumblr.com/post/121972400511/yyeahhhhhhh-coffeeeeeee Sombra's parents kept his old jousting helmet.]] Added points for [[spoiler: Coffee Talk stealing it to show Sombra.]]

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