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[[WMG: The Snarl is LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya.]]

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[[WMG: The Snarl is LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya.Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya.]]
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Instead, they go to their own afterlife, the planet inside the rifts.

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Instead, they go to their own afterlife, the planet inside the rifts.rifts.

[[WMG: The Dark One's going from a VisionaryVillain to a petty, spiteful god who doesn't actually care about goblins anymore is partially their own fault.]]

Loki admits that gods are shaped by their followers as much as their teachings shape their followers' lives. While he was alive, the Dark One was able to see beyond his people's condition to genuinely try to better their lot in life... but after his death, his people's desire for revenge and resentment at their place in the world became a part of his being, and losing sight of what's important in favor of the Plan up in the divine planes is at least partially the fault of beings like Redcloak doing it on the material plane.
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*** Objection! Quiddity doesn't belong to individual gods, it belongs to ''pantheons''. Giggles is Banjo's evil brother, if he has purple quiddity, that just means that, as an evil god who exists only to be an evil counterpart to a pre-existing good god for him to fight, that gives him a shared concept with the Dark One, who also sees himself as an evil counterpart for the "good" guys to fight. If Giggles and Banjo manifest quiddity, then Giggles might be the thing that convinces Redcloak that quiddity is a real thing.
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Banjo.

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Banjo.Banjo.

[[WMG: The Snarl's victims are not completely destroyed]]
Instead, they go to their own afterlife, the planet inside the rifts.
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** I kinda get the whole ''[[Film/TheMatrix Animatrix]]'' "Second Renaissance" vibe where, despite being presented as fact, it just sounds too... propagandized, to really seem true. There's probably a good deal of truth, but a lot was exaggerated, and some details omitted.

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** I kinda get the whole ''[[Film/TheMatrix ''[[Anime/TheAnimatix Animatrix]]'' "Second Renaissance" vibe where, despite being presented as fact, it just sounds too... propagandized, to really seem true. There's probably a good deal of truth, but a lot was exaggerated, and some details omitted.
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*** Seems like they have some sort of contingency for this, since they really wanted Hel to succeed in destroying the world. Maybe [[spoiler: the artifact they were talking about is meant to prevent the mind wipe.]]





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\n* Goblins had a deific patron, sort of: [[spoiler:Fenris. Too bad he has a personality of 6-year old ADHD kid, and the moment he discovered they aren't going to pwn every other race he lost interest and ditched them.]]





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* Jossed: Snarl (part of it) is shown on screen, and Dark One confirms it's existence independently.



The Snarl angered by the fact it was formed from the residue of the many panthon of gods when they were creating the planet and imprisoned in their second creation of the world, it decides it could make a better world by its own without having to argue anyone else. The Snarl's world is managed by a pantheon of Canaanite-abrahamic Gods, and the Snarl is the head of this Pantheon and its name is Ēl ʿElyōn. The first God created by the Snarl would be named Yahweh


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The Snarl angered by the fact it was formed from the residue of the many panthon of gods when they were creating the planet and imprisoned in their second creation of the world, it decides it could make a better world by its own without having to argue anyone else. The Snarl's world is managed by a pantheon of Canaanite-abrahamic Gods, and the Snarl is the head of this Pantheon and its name is Ēl ʿElyōn. The first God created by the Snarl would be named Yahweh

Yahweh.



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* As a counterpoint, one of the prequel books shows that the Dark One ascended to godhood ''before'' the gates were made. Unless that's another case of UnreliableNarrator, the Snarl can't have sponsored the Dark One's ascension.

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* As a counterpoint, one of the prequel books shows that the Dark One ascended to godhood ''before'' the gates were made. Unless that's another case of UnreliableNarrator, the Snarl can't have sponsored the Dark One's ascension.ascension.

[[WMG: The Snarl will be sealed away by a god not from any of the three pantheons...]]
Banjo.
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From what we know, the Snarl is basically an extremely powerful mortal. It died after the Gates were created (possibly as a direct result of them), and ascended to godhood. It was the first to have the purple quiddity, and was the one who sanctioned the Dark One's ascension. Since its death, it went from destructive to constructive, explaining both [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0545.html its lack of aggression]] and the planet within the Rift. The main supporting evidence is the number of things that changed in this world's lifetime (it seems like the Order of the Scribble had no idea about the other planet) and how strongly the color purple is linked to the Snarl.

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From what we know, the Snarl is basically an extremely powerful mortal. It died after the Gates were created (possibly as a direct result of them), and ascended to godhood. It was the first to have the purple quiddity, and was the one who sanctioned the Dark One's ascension. Since its death, it went from destructive to constructive, explaining both [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0545.html its lack of aggression]] and the planet within the Rift. The main supporting evidence is the number of things that changed in this world's lifetime (it seems like the Order of the Scribble had no idea about the other planet) and how strongly the color purple is linked to the Snarl.Snarl.
* As a counterpoint, one of the prequel books shows that the Dark One ascended to godhood ''before'' the gates were made. Unless that's another case of UnreliableNarrator, the Snarl can't have sponsored the Dark One's ascension.
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From what we know, the Snarl is basically an extremely powerful mortal. It died after the Gates were created (possibly as a direct result of them), and ascended to godhood. It was the first to have the purple quiddity, and was the one who sanctioned the Dark One's ascension. Since its death, it went from destructive to constructive, explaining both [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0545.html its lack of aggression]] and the planet within the Rift. The main supporting evidence is the number of things that changed in this world's lifetimes (it seems like the Order of the Scribble had no idea about the other planet) and how strongly the color purple is linked to the Snarl.

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From what we know, the Snarl is basically an extremely powerful mortal. It died after the Gates were created (possibly as a direct result of them), and ascended to godhood. It was the first to have the purple quiddity, and was the one who sanctioned the Dark One's ascension. Since its death, it went from destructive to constructive, explaining both [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0545.html its lack of aggression]] and the planet within the Rift. The main supporting evidence is the number of things that changed in this world's lifetimes lifetime (it seems like the Order of the Scribble had no idea about the other planet) and how strongly the color purple is linked to the Snarl.
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From what we know, the Snarl is basically an extremely powerful mortal. It died after the Gates were created (possibly as a direct result of them), and ascended to godhood. It was the first to have the purple quiddity, and was the one who sanctioned the Dark One's ascension. Since its death, it went from destructive to constructive, explaining both [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0545.html its lack of aggression]] and the planet within the Rift. The main supporting evidence is the number of things that changed in this worlds' lifetimes (it seems like the Order of the Scribble had no idea about the other planet) and how strongly the color purple is linked to the Snarl.

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From what we know, the Snarl is basically an extremely powerful mortal. It died after the Gates were created (possibly as a direct result of them), and ascended to godhood. It was the first to have the purple quiddity, and was the one who sanctioned the Dark One's ascension. Since its death, it went from destructive to constructive, explaining both [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0545.html its lack of aggression]] and the planet within the Rift. The main supporting evidence is the number of things that changed in this worlds' world's lifetimes (it seems like the Order of the Scribble had no idea about the other planet) and how strongly the color purple is linked to the Snarl.
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According to Thor, the goblinoids were not specifically created to be an XP fodder race, but he tells the Bearer of the Crimson Mantle this, who in turn likely gives a less secret-revealing version of events to his flock. Unfortunately, because the goblins believe they've been given the short end of the stick in their teachings (moreso than the actual short end of the stick they were given), the belief ends up reinforcing his own narrative, trapping him a vicious cycle where he actually is forced to believe that the goblinoids were created as disposable minions for lower level adventurers to level up with. It's going to take a lot to get him to change his mind, if at all possible, since he probably also instilled into his followers an inherent distrust of the primary gods.

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According to Thor, the goblinoids were not specifically created to be an XP fodder race, but he tells the Bearer of the Crimson Mantle this, who in turn likely gives a less secret-revealing version of events to his flock. Unfortunately, because the goblins believe they've been given the short end of the stick in their teachings (moreso than the actual short end of the stick they were given), the belief ends up reinforcing his own narrative, trapping him a vicious cycle where he actually is forced to believe that the goblinoids were created as disposable minions for lower level adventurers to level up with. It's going to take a lot to get him to change his mind, if at all possible, since he probably also instilled into his followers an inherent distrust of the primary gods.gods.

[[WMG: The Snarl is dead.]]
From what we know, the Snarl is basically an extremely powerful mortal. It died after the Gates were created (possibly as a direct result of them), and ascended to godhood. It was the first to have the purple quiddity, and was the one who sanctioned the Dark One's ascension. Since its death, it went from destructive to constructive, explaining both [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0545.html its lack of aggression]] and the planet within the Rift. The main supporting evidence is the number of things that changed in this worlds' lifetimes (it seems like the Order of the Scribble had no idea about the other planet) and how strongly the color purple is linked to the Snarl.
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There are three moral alignments in DND 3.5, Good, Neutral and Evil. There are roughly twice as many non-good gods as there are good gods, just as there are twice as many non-neutral gods as there are neutral gods and roughly twice as many non-evil gods as there are evil gods. None of the moral alignments can rely on each other, since outside of rare circumstances, the good gods will oppose the evil gods and vice versa, and the neutral gods will either want to be left alone or pursue their own goals regardless of morality.

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There are three moral alignments in DND 3.5, Good, Neutral and Evil. There are roughly twice as many non-good gods as there are good gods, just as there are twice as many non-neutral gods as there are neutral gods and roughly twice as many non-evil gods as there are evil gods. None of the moral alignments can rely on each other, since outside of rare circumstances, the good gods will oppose the evil gods and vice versa, and the neutral gods will either want to be left alone or pursue their own goals regardless of morality.morality.

[[WMG: The Dark One is trapped BelievingTheirOwnLies.]]
According to Thor, the goblinoids were not specifically created to be an XP fodder race, but he tells the Bearer of the Crimson Mantle this, who in turn likely gives a less secret-revealing version of events to his flock. Unfortunately, because the goblins believe they've been given the short end of the stick in their teachings (moreso than the actual short end of the stick they were given), the belief ends up reinforcing his own narrative, trapping him a vicious cycle where he actually is forced to believe that the goblinoids were created as disposable minions for lower level adventurers to level up with. It's going to take a lot to get him to change his mind, if at all possible, since he probably also instilled into his followers an inherent distrust of the primary gods.
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* ...By destroying the Azure City gate. Why? Otherwise, Soon Kim and the other ghost-martyrs would have killed Xykon and more importantly ''Redcloak''. Remember that Rat was part of the group that protected and planned on recruiting the Dark One to end the cycle. Even though the Dark One turned on them, as Thor explained, his high priest could still be persuaded to channel enough divine quiddity for them to make the plan work. If Redcloak dies and the Crimson Mantle falls into Sapphire paladin hands, no more high priests. Yes, it means sacrificing Azure City, but you don't give up a chance, however slim - of ending the threat of the Snarl.

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* ...By destroying the Azure City gate. Why? Otherwise, Soon Kim and the other ghost-martyrs would have killed Xykon and more importantly ''Redcloak''. Remember that Rat was part of the group that protected and planned on recruiting the Dark One to end the cycle. Even though the Dark One turned on them, as Thor explained, his high priest could still be persuaded to channel enough divine quiddity for them to make the plan work. If Redcloak dies and the Crimson Mantle falls into Sapphire paladin hands, no more high priests. Yes, it means sacrificing Azure City, but you don't give up a chance, however slim - of ending the threat of the Snarl.Snarl.

[[WMG: Odin's line about there being more non-good gods than good gods is true, but does not imply there are more evil gods.]]
There are three moral alignments in DND 3.5, Good, Neutral and Evil. There are roughly twice as many non-good gods as there are good gods, just as there are twice as many non-neutral gods as there are neutral gods and roughly twice as many non-evil gods as there are evil gods. None of the moral alignments can rely on each other, since outside of rare circumstances, the good gods will oppose the evil gods and vice versa, and the neutral gods will either want to be left alone or pursue their own goals regardless of morality.

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[[WMG: The Eastern pantheon isn't all dead]]
The Monster in the Dark is Persephone, or some otherchild-like god from the Eastern Pantheod, that survived in hiding.
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**Except we do see it, in strip number #945, where it breaks through Girard's Gate attacks Laurin and her troops.
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Dwarves only represent a small percentage of the total population of Thor's worshippers, so if most people think that Thor's tree-blasting is just a unique quirk, as opposed to the Dwarves' belief that trees are dangerous monsters that Thor is smiting, he's able to avoid the issue that Odin is suffering from.

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Dwarves only represent a small percentage of the total population of Thor's worshippers, so if most people think that Thor's tree-blasting is just a unique quirk, as opposed to the Dwarves' belief that trees are dangerous monsters that Thor is smiting, he's able to avoid the issue that Odin is suffering from.from.

[[WMG: For once, Miko really was following the will of the Twelve Gods...]]
* ...By destroying the Azure City gate. Why? Otherwise, Soon Kim and the other ghost-martyrs would have killed Xykon and more importantly ''Redcloak''. Remember that Rat was part of the group that protected and planned on recruiting the Dark One to end the cycle. Even though the Dark One turned on them, as Thor explained, his high priest could still be persuaded to channel enough divine quiddity for them to make the plan work. If Redcloak dies and the Crimson Mantle falls into Sapphire paladin hands, no more high priests. Yes, it means sacrificing Azure City, but you don't give up a chance, however slim - of ending the threat of the Snarl.
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* Confirmed by virtue of being of not much of a guess, it's all but directly told during the exposition.
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* It's entirely possible some of them Fell, but we're limited to Redcloak's limited perspective. It would be hidden by them all being in grey-scale for the book already.

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* It's entirely possible some of them Fell, but we're limited to Redcloak's limited perspective. It would be hidden by them all being in grey-scale for the book already.already.

[[WMG: Thor avoids being a tree-hater despite the Dwarves belief that he is one because it's a uniquely dwarf belief.]]
Dwarves only represent a small percentage of the total population of Thor's worshippers, so if most people think that Thor's tree-blasting is just a unique quirk, as opposed to the Dwarves' belief that trees are dangerous monsters that Thor is smiting, he's able to avoid the issue that Odin is suffering from.
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* Since the two of them came into being after the new world was created, like the Dark One, they might count as purple gods
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** Except how can they benefit from one world's destruction and a new one's creation, if all outsiders' memories are wiped each time it happens? Even if they ''think'' this would work, all it would take to scuttle this idea would be for Loki or Tiamat (or Rat, assuming he's not still too angry to speak to the guy) to tell the Dark One that the IFCC won't even remember him during the interim.

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** Except how can they benefit from one world's destruction and a new one's creation, if [[spoiler: all outsiders' memories are wiped each time it happens? Even if they ''think'' this would work, all it would take to scuttle this idea would be for Loki or Tiamat (or Rat, assuming he's not still too angry to speak to the guy) to tell the Dark One that the IFCC won't even remember him during the interim.
interim.]]
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\n* [[spoiler: Probably Jossed, because there have ''already been'' untold millions of worlds where the heroes failed and the gods had to recreate things. It's not much of a subversion when it's already established that it's the sort of outcome that happens all the time.]]

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