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[[WMG: The game takes place in the Franchise/MetalGear universe.]]

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[[WMG: Team Fortress 2 (and Half-Life and Portal) takes place in The [[WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers Edlundverse The Astroverse]]. ]]

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[[WMG: Team Fortress 2 (and Half-Life and Portal) takes place in The [[WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers [[WesternAnimation/TheVentureBros Edlundverse The Astroverse]]. ]]
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* Jossed. Gray Mann is killed in the Comics by Classic Heavy after his Life Extender machine is ripped off his back with Olivia nowhere to be found.
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[[WMG: Zephaniah Mann had a third brother.]]
If Silas Mann is presumably Zephaniah's brother and Zephaniah had three sons, Redmond, Blutarch, and Gray whom may be somewhat [[GenerationXerox similar]] to Zephaniah and Silas, then there is/was(?) a third brother. He may have never been spoken before but [[MysteriousPast Silas' history within the family is shrouded in mystery.]] There is a precedent for having yet to speak about previously unknown relatives.
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Once [[MechanicalEvolution one of the robots becomes sentient]], that robot will not charge blindly into battle, but begin thinking about different and more effective strategies. Once Gray Mann notices, he will put the robot to work upgrading its fellow machines. At first, this will just be advanced weaponry. Soon, though, it will grant secretly grant the robots sentience so that they will become capable of using its complex strategies. After they've used these strategies to crush the feeble RED and BLU Teams, Gray Mann will have no use for them and try to have them decommissioned. The now-intelligent robots will naturally see this as a threat. Using their advanced strategies and weapons, they will rise up against Gray Mann and, no doubt, quickly defeat him. Having thus tasted power, the machines will realize that all of humanity wishes to see them destroyed, and decide to destroy humanity in self-defense. They will rebuild the demolished Mann Co. factories and use them to mass-produce robots in large numbers. The robots will spread out all over the world in well-organized strikes. There will be no time to prepare. The governments of the world will crumble, and the machines will take over. The original robot, the first to gain sentience, will rule over his fellow machines with [[AWorldwidePunomenon an iron fist,]] and will be given the name [[Franchise/{{Terminator}} Skynet.]]

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Once [[MechanicalEvolution one of the robots becomes sentient]], that robot will not charge blindly into battle, but begin thinking about different and more effective strategies. Once Gray Mann notices, he will put the robot to work upgrading its fellow machines. At first, this will just be advanced weaponry. Soon, though, it will grant secretly grant the robots sentience so that they will become capable of using its complex strategies. After they've used these strategies to crush the feeble RED and BLU Teams, Gray Mann will have no use for them and try to have them decommissioned. The now-intelligent robots will naturally see this as a threat. Using their advanced strategies and weapons, they will rise up against Gray Mann and, no doubt, quickly defeat him. Having thus tasted power, the machines will realize that all of humanity wishes to see them destroyed, and decide to destroy humanity in self-defense. They will rebuild the demolished Mann Co. factories and use them to mass-produce robots in large numbers. The robots will spread out all over the world in well-organized strikes. There will be no time to prepare. The governments of the world will crumble, and the machines will take over. The original robot, the first to gain sentience, will rule over his fellow machines with [[AWorldwidePunomenon with an iron fist,]] fist, and will be given the name [[Franchise/{{Terminator}} Skynet.]]
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Soldier didn't just insult a magician, he insulted the one known as [[LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero "Zero"]].

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Soldier didn't just insult a magician, he insulted the one known as [[LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero [[Literature/TheFamiliarOfZero "Zero"]].

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WMG pages can be Spoilers Off as well. I think it's for consistency's sake to apply it here and add the header just like what's done with the other spoilers-off pages of this game.


'''As a Wild Mass Guessing subpage, [[Administrivia/SpoilersOff all spoilers are unmarked]]. Administrivia/YouHaveBeenWarned.'''



* At least part of this is jossed: The game ''has'' a plot, [[spoiler:and, largely thanks to Helen's machinations]],[[http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/File:Pyromania_easter_senate003.jpg it appears we are heading straight for its climax.]]

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* At least part of this is jossed: The game ''has'' a plot, [[spoiler:and, and, largely thanks to Helen's machinations]],[[http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/File:Pyromania_easter_senate003.jpg it appears we are heading straight for its climax.]]
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*** ''Related Theory: The BLU Team is Screwed.'' In Meet the Spy, the BLU Spy is killed by friendly fire, and it's implied that the BLU Scout was killed offscreen. Based on their dialogue, it's possible that they were very nearly, if not equally, as skilled as their RED counterparts who star in the Meet the Team videos. I know that doesn't explain the BLU Scout, since [[spoiler:he's actually the RED Spy]], but think about it: would he really jump into that sort of situation with no prior knowledge of his persona? Odds are, the BLU Scout really was competent enough to kill "dime-a-dozen backstabbing scumbags" with ease, lending credibility to his skills. And without him or the BLU Spy in play, that makes the odds 7:9 in RED's favor ''at best''. That's assuming the Medic and Pyro have representatives equally as awesome as those classes that have already been introduced.

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*** ''Related Theory: The BLU Team is Screwed.'' In Meet the Spy, the BLU Spy is killed by friendly fire, and it's implied that the BLU Scout was killed offscreen. Based on their dialogue, it's possible that they were very nearly, if not equally, as skilled as their RED counterparts who star in the Meet the Team videos. I know that doesn't explain the BLU Scout, since [[spoiler:he's he's actually the RED Spy]], Spy, but think about it: would he really jump into that sort of situation with no prior knowledge of his persona? Odds are, the BLU Scout really was competent enough to kill "dime-a-dozen backstabbing scumbags" with ease, lending credibility to his skills. And without him or the BLU Spy in play, that makes the odds 7:9 in RED's favor ''at best''. That's assuming the Medic and Pyro have representatives equally as awesome as those classes that have already been introduced.



If Zepheniah Mann managed to will himself as an immortal ghost to haunt those who desecrate his grave, what if he ''also'' managed to will Blutarch and Redmond a curse that, when both of them die, they will be sent to TheNothingAfterDeath? They "wasted their lives fighting over ''[[IronicEcho nothing]]''", so the only ''something'' they have, in this life or the next, is what Zepheniah Mann has willed to them. Consider this... what if Zepheniah ''didn't'' purchase any land in America? Or his use of "new world" was a self-aware reference to a different sort of real estate? "New World" is an old fashioned name for heaven. Zepheniah, being both reprehensible and a ghost, never earned a place in it, nor could he have purchased any. Later in the comic, Blutarch says this to the BLU Engineer ([[spoiler:Dell Conagher]]):
-->'''Blutarch Mann:''' Every day I'm dead a little longer, Mister [[spoiler:Conagher]]. I have ''seen'' the other side. [[TheNothingAfterDeath There is nothing there.]] '''''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis FIX. THIS. MACHINE.]]'''''

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If Zepheniah Mann managed to will himself as an immortal ghost to haunt those who desecrate his grave, what if he ''also'' managed to will Blutarch and Redmond a curse that, when both of them die, they will be sent to TheNothingAfterDeath? They "wasted their lives fighting over ''[[IronicEcho nothing]]''", so the only ''something'' they have, in this life or the next, is what Zepheniah Mann has willed to them. Consider this... what if Zepheniah ''didn't'' purchase any land in America? Or his use of "new world" was a self-aware reference to a different sort of real estate? "New World" is an old fashioned name for heaven. Zepheniah, being both reprehensible and a ghost, never earned a place in it, nor could he have purchased any. Later in the comic, Blutarch says this to the BLU Engineer ([[spoiler:Dell Conagher]]):
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-->'''Blutarch Mann:''' Every day I'm dead a little longer, Mister [[spoiler:Conagher]].Conagher. I have ''seen'' the other side. [[TheNothingAfterDeath There is nothing there.]] '''''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis FIX. THIS. MACHINE.]]'''''



This can happen for a number of reasons: either Gray Mann believes that [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness She Has Outlived Her Usefulness]] [[spoiler: after she successfully helped him trick Saxton Hale into forfeiting his company]], and decides it's time for OffingTheOffspring, or at least will [[ParentalBetrayal screw her out of her position]] ([[PuppetKing symbolic though it may be]]) [[spoiler: as CEO of both Gray Gravel and Mann Co.]]. Or Olivia is a "[[WellDoneSonGuy Well Done Daughter Gal]]" who is tired of [[NotNowKiddo her father not treating her seriously]] [[spoiler: after she served her purpose of getting Mann Co.]], and defects to the Team just so she has the opportunity to [[spoiler: [[BeatThemAtTheirOwnGame take BOTH companies away from her father, once and for all]].]]

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This can happen for a number of reasons: either Gray Mann believes that [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness She Has Outlived Her Usefulness]] [[spoiler: after she successfully helped him trick Saxton Hale into forfeiting his company]], and decides it's time for OffingTheOffspring, or at least will [[ParentalBetrayal screw her out of her position]] position ([[PuppetKing symbolic though it may be]]) [[spoiler: as CEO of both Gray Gravel and Mann Co.]]. Co.. Or Olivia is a "[[WellDoneSonGuy Well Done Daughter Gal]]" who is tired of [[NotNowKiddo her father not treating her seriously]] [[spoiler: after she served her purpose of getting Mann Co.]], , and defects to the Team just so she has the opportunity to [[spoiler: [[BeatThemAtTheirOwnGame take BOTH companies away from her father, once and for all]].]]
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After the nuclear wars of the '50s, Oceania and Eurasia began to establish themselves as megastates, but this theory speculates that the 24/7 surveillance of everyone everywhere, brainwashing, and revision of history took longer to establish. So while Oceania and Eurasia began waging their perpetual wars to consume resources, they also decided they could use these wars to kill (or at least keep away from the general population) a few [[AxeCrazy axe crazies]] with... unique personalities and strong senses of national identity (even though their countries no longer exist). The battles keep the mercenaries away from the impressionable civilians likely undergoing preliminary conditioning, and use up resources (which is the whole point of the war). $400,000 for 12 seconds of minigun fire sounds like a good investment to me. Oceania is BLU, Eurasia is RED, and Eastasia was formed after the other two, and was not organized enough to contend in the battles covered by the game. And obviously, the Administrator is behind the whole thing with [[spoiler:O'Brian]] as a lieutenant and trusted advisor.

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After the nuclear wars of the '50s, Oceania and Eurasia began to establish themselves as megastates, but this theory speculates that the 24/7 surveillance of everyone everywhere, brainwashing, and revision of history took longer to establish. So while Oceania and Eurasia began waging their perpetual wars to consume resources, they also decided they could use these wars to kill (or at least keep away from the general population) a few [[AxeCrazy axe crazies]] with... unique personalities and strong senses of national identity (even though their countries no longer exist). The battles keep the mercenaries away from the impressionable civilians likely undergoing preliminary conditioning, and use up resources (which is the whole point of the war). $400,000 for 12 seconds of minigun fire sounds like a good investment to me. Oceania is BLU, Eurasia is RED, and Eastasia was formed after the other two, and was not organized enough to contend in the battles covered by the game. And obviously, the Administrator is behind the whole thing with [[spoiler:O'Brian]] O'Brian as a lieutenant and trusted advisor.



** And Wheatley is going [[spoiler:to get knocked down from space around the same time]], get picked up by BLU (for obvious reasons), and lead them to Aperture.

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** And Wheatley is going [[spoiler:to to get knocked down from space around the same time]], time, get picked up by BLU (for obvious reasons), and lead them to Aperture.
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** Thanks for the idea... To the [[FanficMagnet Fanfic]]-[[ToTheBatNoun Mobile]]!

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** Thanks for the idea... To the [[FanficMagnet Fanfic]]-[[ToTheBatNoun Mobile]]!
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** If "F. Pauling" refers to her, then her given name is Fuchsia, a shade of purple.
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* All the classes are mutants, as they can all do extraordinary things(see above ''Incredibles'' guess) This would also explain the [[NamesTheSame two Pyros.]] The time periods would fit as well, if we look at the earliest publication dates of the ComicBook/XMen - possibly Mutants are just beginning to emerge from the woodwork.

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* All the classes are mutants, as they can all do extraordinary things(see above ''Incredibles'' guess) This would also explain the [[NamesTheSame two Pyros.]] Pyros. The time periods would fit as well, if we look at the earliest publication dates of the ComicBook/XMen - possibly Mutants are just beginning to emerge from the woodwork.
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[[WMG: The TFC mercs are actually from the Future]]
It just really doesn't make sense that they're from the 1930s because of the obvious retcons with Black Mesa assets seen within TFC maps. Therefore, they're really from the 90s fighting in Black Mesa compounds as part of some future war, and ended up time travelling to work with Mann Co for... Evil reasons.
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** On the other hand, True Names are *very* jealously guarded in the FSN universe, so us finally knowing some first names, some last names, and some very fake-sounding aliases doesn't prove that this isn't some kind of very weird Holy Grail War.
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** The Fireproof Secret Diary mentions "ancient astronauts" in it's description. Punch that phrase into Wiki/TheOtherWiki, and you can find a listing of them in popular culture. One of the earliest known examples, even pre-dating [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Lovecraft's]] [[CosmicHorror horrors]] from [[VideoGame/{{Quake}} beyond]], dates back to "Edison's Conquest of Mars," [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison%27s_Conquest_of_Mars a sequel to a War of the Worlds-style rip off sci-fi novel.]][[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Martian_Prisoner_-_conquest_of_Mars.png The aliens from the novel look a lot like Gray]]: Gray was even the name of the original magazine serial's illustrator!

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** The Fireproof Secret Diary mentions "ancient astronauts" in it's description. Punch that phrase into Wiki/TheOtherWiki, Website/TheOtherWiki, and you can find a listing of them in popular culture. One of the earliest known examples, even pre-dating [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Lovecraft's]] [[CosmicHorror horrors]] from [[VideoGame/{{Quake}} beyond]], dates back to "Edison's Conquest of Mars," [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison%27s_Conquest_of_Mars a sequel to a War of the Worlds-style rip off sci-fi novel.]][[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Martian_Prisoner_-_conquest_of_Mars.png The aliens from the novel look a lot like Gray]]: Gray was even the name of the original magazine serial's illustrator!
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[[WMG: The game is in the same world as Machinima/RedVsBlue.]]

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[[WMG: The game is in the same world as Machinima/RedVsBlue.WebAnimation/RedVsBlue.]]
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[[WMG: In the Team Fortress 2 universe, [[NiceHat milliners]] live the high life]]

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[[WMG: In the Team Fortress 2 universe, [[NiceHat milliners]] milliners live the high life]]
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* ''The granddaughter of Zephaniah Mann and Elizabeth, through her daughter Emily and either of the Mann brothers.'' Elizabeth and Zephaniah’s relationship may have been based on more than mere trust. Elizabeth’s presumed daughter [[http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Non-player_characters#Emily.3F Emily]], [[http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/1/18/Engineercomic09.jpg seen here bribing Radigan with Australium]], seems to have reaped the benefits of this alliance… in more ways than one. Though its canonicity is hotly debated, a rather… [[http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/File:Portrait_1_skin_1.png not safe for work portrait of Emily]] can be found in Redmond Mann’s current residence, Mann Manor. Winning her attentions may have been another point of contention for the boys. A disturbing question remains… why would Emily want to damn the two men to an IronicHell through bribing Radigan to sabotage the machines? The boys may have toyed with her affections far too much… but there’s yet another disturbing question to answer. This theory has, until now, been built on the supposition that Emily was Elizabeth’s daughter from a previous relationship. But what if Emily had blood ties to the Mann fortune? If Emily was the [[BastardBastard illegitimate daughter of Zephaniah by his maidservant]], she would have had no sure guarantee to his fortune, a burning desire to see two full-blooded but unsuitable heirs punished, [[MagnificentBastard and an utterly insane drive]] [[IncestIsRelative to do whatever it took]] to utterly destroy the both of them. Judging by the looks of things, Emily infected her daughter with that thirst for vengeance as well.

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* ''The granddaughter of Zephaniah Mann and Elizabeth, through her daughter Emily and either of the Mann brothers.'' Elizabeth and Zephaniah’s relationship may have been based on more than mere trust. Elizabeth’s presumed daughter [[http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Non-player_characters#Emily.3F Emily]], [[http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/1/18/Engineercomic09.jpg seen here bribing Radigan with Australium]], seems to have reaped the benefits of this alliance… in more ways than one. Though its canonicity is hotly debated, a rather… [[http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/File:Portrait_1_skin_1.png not safe for work portrait of Emily]] can be found in Redmond Mann’s current residence, Mann Manor. Winning her attentions may have been another point of contention for the boys. A disturbing question remains… why would Emily want to damn the two men to an IronicHell through bribing Radigan to sabotage the machines? The boys may have toyed with her affections far too much… but there’s yet another disturbing question to answer. This theory has, until now, been built on the supposition that Emily was Elizabeth’s daughter from a previous relationship. But what if Emily had blood ties to the Mann fortune? If Emily was the [[BastardBastard illegitimate daughter of Zephaniah by his maidservant]], she would have had no sure guarantee to his fortune, a burning desire to see two full-blooded but unsuitable heirs punished, [[MagnificentBastard and an utterly insane drive]] [[IncestIsRelative to do whatever it took]] took to utterly destroy the both of them. Judging by the looks of things, Emily infected her daughter with that thirst for vengeance as well.
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* The Spy: The [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder team-killer]]. The stealthy evil asshole [[KnifeNut who uses the knife almost exclusively]]. That guy on your team [[MagnificentBastard you can't trust]] because you know he's going to [[HeelFaceTurn eventually turn on you]], even if it's just [[ForTheEvulz for the lulz]]... but you keep him around anyway because [[RecruitingTheCriminal you need him]].

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* The Spy: The [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder team-killer]]. The stealthy evil asshole [[KnifeNut who uses the knife almost exclusively]].exclusively. That guy on your team [[MagnificentBastard you can't trust]] because you know he's going to [[HeelFaceTurn eventually turn on you]], even if it's just [[ForTheEvulz for the lulz]]... but you keep him around anyway because [[RecruitingTheCriminal you need him]].
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[[WMG: Team Fortress 2 is the SpearCounterpart of VideoGame/{{Touhou}}]]

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[[WMG: The game takes place inside Film/TheMatrix.]]

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* Everything in what we think of as the [=TF2=] Universe is actually real, except for the fights. Originally, the fights were ALL like Arena mode, as there were no respawns -- [[RealityEnsues you were dead]]. Increasing costs of repeatedly getting new mercenaries, and the advent of online gaming, allowed TF industries to create what we treat as just a game, but is infact the same battles as were previously being fought by real people.

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* Everything in what we think of as the [=TF2=] Universe is actually real, except for the fights. Originally, the fights were ALL like Arena mode, as there were no respawns -- [[RealityEnsues [[KilledOffForReal you were dead]]. Increasing costs of repeatedly getting new mercenaries, and the advent of online gaming, allowed TF industries to create what we treat as just a game, but is infact the same battles as were previously being fought by real people.
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[[WMG: [[Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia Fortress Team Hetalia]]: The game is a geopolitical allegory.]]

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[[WMG: It’s a bunch of kids playing make believe.]]

Multiple members of the same class? Multiple kids want to play the same class.

Respawning? Kid sitting out for a specific time period.

Magic? Part of the play.

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[[WMG: (from Fridge Logic) Everything is RED propaganda.]]
The games are akin to the RED propaganda cartoons, which explains the following:
- The game’s favouring on RED
- The cameraman getting into dangerous situations in the Meet The videos
- Respawning
- RED and BLU mercs looking the same
- Having multiple of the same class on a team
They don’t actually die, it’s just special effects. Same with Pyro’s fire.
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It isn't CutscenePowerToTheMax that's being exhibited in the promotional videos. The videos are the actual story, as of yet not fully realized, and VideoGame/TeamFortress2 is an adaptation. AdaptationDecay was necessary to keep the game fun and balanced. Really now, the sheer skill of these guys indicates that if you went up against that team, you'd be utterly screwed. Everyone else is merely imitating them in order to try and match them, thus why you can choose your own classes. They are a bunch of fellows with nothing to lose, banding together for a common cause... A cause which nobody has a bloody clue about. Thus the application of Main/TheWorfEffect to the Heavy in the non-Heavy-focused videos is justified, since only the featured class is "played" by the real one while the ones getting slaughtered are these impostors. The "real" Heavy can tank all those shots and [[Main/MemeticMutation doesn't afraid of the Scout]], etc. Alternately: The Meet the Team videos feature the originals; all the player-controlled characters are clones. They're given the signature equipment and skills of the originals, but [[YouSuck they lack the experience and general competence of the originals.]] Mostly.

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It isn't CutscenePowerToTheMax that's being exhibited in the promotional videos. The videos are the actual story, as of yet not fully realized, and VideoGame/TeamFortress2 is an adaptation. AdaptationDecay was necessary to keep the game fun and balanced. Really now, the sheer skill of these guys indicates that if you went up against that team, you'd be utterly screwed. Everyone else is merely imitating them in order to try and match them, thus why you can choose your own classes. They are a bunch of fellows with nothing to lose, banding together for a common cause... A cause which nobody has a bloody clue about. Thus the application of Main/TheWorfEffect to the Heavy in the non-Heavy-focused videos is justified, since only the featured class is "played" by the real one while the ones getting slaughtered are these impostors. The "real" Heavy can tank all those shots and [[Main/MemeticMutation doesn't afraid of the Scout]], etc. Alternately: The Meet the Team videos feature the originals; all the player-controlled characters are clones. They're given the signature equipment and skills of the originals, but [[YouSuck they lack the experience and general competence of the originals.]] originals. Mostly.

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