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[[spoiler: The new trailer for the game starts with handsome Jack himself recounting where ''[=TFTB=]'' takes place within the ''Borderlands'' timeline, and there are already hints that Jack in some way plays into the story of the game. But most damning is that Rhys has [[MismatchedEyes heterochromia]], just like Jack did, with one green eye and one blue one, and starts the game as a Hyperion employee. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Jack planned for the worst to happen and made a clone as a backup of him to continue his work. If this is the case, it's one hell of a XanatosGambit on his part, and not out of character for him, considering he's already shown loads of foresight in previous games.]]
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[[spoiler: The new trailer for the game starts with handsome Jack himself recounting where ''[=TFTB=]'' takes place within the ''Borderlands'' timeline, and there are already hints that Jack in some way plays into the story of the game. But most damning is that Rhys has [[MismatchedEyes heterochromia]], heterochromia, just like Jack did, with one green eye and one blue one, and starts the game as a Hyperion employee. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Jack planned for the worst to happen and made a clone as a backup of him to continue his work. If this is the case, it's one hell of a XanatosGambit on his part, and not out of character for him, considering he's already shown loads of foresight in previous games.]]
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* Rhys is NotSoDifferent to Jack in Borderlands Pre-Sequel. We also hear ECHO recordings of Jack strangling a member of his boardroom with his watch chain for bringing up his wife (timing of the recording is unclear). In Pre-Sequel, we do see Jack visibly strangling Tassiter. Depending on decisions made in game, Rhys will rise to power the same way.
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* Rhys is NotSoDifferent not so different to Jack in Borderlands Pre-Sequel. We also hear ECHO recordings of Jack strangling a member of his boardroom with his watch chain for bringing up his wife (timing of the recording is unclear). In Pre-Sequel, we do see Jack visibly strangling Tassiter. Depending on decisions made in game, Rhys will rise to power the same way.
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[[WMG: TheNothingAfterDeath that Jack mentions in Episode 5 is actually [[IronicHell his version of Hell.]]
For a man who wants to control everything, what worse punishment is there than to be stuck in a world with nothing? For a man that demands attention, what worse fate is there than to be alone forever? For a man like Handsome Jack, I can think of no more appropriate punishment than an eternity of nothingness.
For a man who wants to control everything, what worse punishment is there than to be stuck in a world with nothing? For a man that demands attention, what worse fate is there than to be alone forever? For a man like Handsome Jack, I can think of no more appropriate punishment than an eternity of nothingness.
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[[WMG: TheNothingAfterDeath that Jack mentions in Episode 5 is actually [[IronicHell his version of Hell.]]
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For a man who wants to control everything, what worse punishment is there than to be stuck in a world withnothing? nothing? For a man that demands attention, what worse fate is there than to be alone forever? forever? For a man like Handsome Jack, I can think of no more appropriate punishment than an eternity of nothingness.
For a man who wants to control everything, what worse punishment is there than to be stuck in a world with
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Before [[spoiler: his death]], Scooter arranged for Pandora's budding TV industry to receive the rights to a tie-in animated television series in the vein of ''WesternAnimation/JemAndTheHolograms'' or the old Hanna-Barbera toons. It features Fiona and Sasha as hotshot underdog racers, a thinly-veiled {{Expy}} of Rhys as their sleazy manager, and Scooter as their cheerful mentor figure and mechanic. Despite gross creative liberties taken with the characterization, the show goes on to be immensely popular with Pandoran audiences and its on-world production becomes a minor point of civic pride for locals.
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Before [[spoiler: his death]], Scooter arranged for Pandora's budding TV industry to receive the rights to a tie-in animated television series in the vein of ''WesternAnimation/JemAndTheHolograms'' or the old Hanna-Barbera toons. It features Fiona and Sasha as hotshot underdog racers, a thinly-veiled {{Expy}} of Rhys as their sleazy manager, and Scooter as their cheerful mentor figure and mechanic. Despite gross creative liberties taken with the characterization, the show goes on to be immensely popular with Pandoran audiences and its on-world production becomes a minor point of civic pride for locals.locals.
[[WMG: TheNothingAfterDeath that Jack mentions in Episode 5 is actually [[IronicHell his version of Hell.]]
For a man who wants to control everything, what worse punishment is there than to be stuck in a world with nothing? For a man that demands attention, what worse fate is there than to be alone forever? For a man like Handsome Jack, I can think of no more appropriate punishment than an eternity of nothingness.
[[WMG: TheNothingAfterDeath that Jack mentions in Episode 5 is actually [[IronicHell his version of Hell.]]
For a man who wants to control everything, what worse punishment is there than to be stuck in a world with nothing? For a man that demands attention, what worse fate is there than to be alone forever? For a man like Handsome Jack, I can think of no more appropriate punishment than an eternity of nothingness.
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[[WMG: Someone on Pandora will make a cheesy cartoon Fiona's (fictitious) racing career]]
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[[WMG: Someone on Pandora will make a cheesy cartoon based on Fiona's (fictitious) racing career]]
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* [[spoiler: Basically confirmed, as you help Rhys stave off a Maliwan invasion on Promethea.]]
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Because why not?not?
* [[spoiler: Jossed for ''Borderlands 3'', at least.]]
[[WMG: Someone on Pandora will make a cheesy cartoon Fiona's (fictitious) racing career]]
Before [[spoiler: his death]], Scooter arranged for Pandora's budding TV industry to receive the rights to a tie-in animated television series in the vein of ''WesternAnimation/JemAndTheHolograms'' or the old Hanna-Barbera toons. It features Fiona and Sasha as hotshot underdog racers, a thinly-veiled {{Expy}} of Rhys as their sleazy manager, and Scooter as their cheerful mentor figure and mechanic. Despite gross creative liberties taken with the characterization, the show goes on to be immensely popular with Pandoran audiences and its on-world production becomes a minor point of civic pride for locals.
* [[spoiler: Jossed for ''Borderlands 3'', at least.]]
[[WMG: Someone on Pandora will make a cheesy cartoon Fiona's (fictitious) racing career]]
Before [[spoiler: his death]], Scooter arranged for Pandora's budding TV industry to receive the rights to a tie-in animated television series in the vein of ''WesternAnimation/JemAndTheHolograms'' or the old Hanna-Barbera toons. It features Fiona and Sasha as hotshot underdog racers, a thinly-veiled {{Expy}} of Rhys as their sleazy manager, and Scooter as their cheerful mentor figure and mechanic. Despite gross creative liberties taken with the characterization, the show goes on to be immensely popular with Pandoran audiences and its on-world production becomes a minor point of civic pride for locals.
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* Jossed. [[https://borderlands.com/en-US/game-info/#- Promotional material]] for Borderlands 3 show Hyperion and Atlas Weapons to have entirely different designs and function (Hyperion feature the same reverse recoil gimmick on top of gun mounted holo-shields, Atlas has [[HomingProjectile projectiles that home in on a marked target]])
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[[spoiler: Rhys]] is already proving that Atlas can be better than the other megacorporations. If war does come to Pandora and across the Six Galaxies then [[spoiler: Atlas]] will probably want to make sure that they can find their missing CEO.
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[[spoiler: Rhys]] is already proving that Atlas can be better than the other megacorporations. If war does come to Pandora and across the Six Galaxies then [[spoiler: Atlas]] will probably want to make sure that they can find their missing CEO.CEO.
[[WMG: Felix's watch will return in a later game as an item]]
Because why not?
[[WMG: Felix's watch will return in a later game as an item]]
Because why not?
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Atlas]] will be a friendly force during Borderlands 3.]]
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Atlas]] Atlas will be a friendly force during Borderlands 3.3]] ]]
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Atlas]] will be a friendly force during Borderlands 3.]]]
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Atlas]] will be a friendly force during Borderlands 3.]]]]]
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He seems to have good knowledge of Hollow Point and owns a bar there, while Vallory has known about Fiona and Sasha for a long time. It's possible that he knew the two as children and was once friends with them, until his mother made him take a more active role in crime.
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He seems to have good knowledge of Hollow Point and owns a bar there, while Vallory has known about Fiona and Sasha for a long time. It's possible that he knew the two as children and was once friends with them, until his mother made him take a more active role in crime.crime.
[[WMG: [[spoiler: Atlas]] will be a friendly force during Borderlands 3.]]]
[[spoiler: Rhys]] is already proving that Atlas can be better than the other megacorporations. If war does come to Pandora and across the Six Galaxies then [[spoiler: Atlas]] will probably want to make sure that they can find their missing CEO.
[[WMG: [[spoiler: Atlas]] will be a friendly force during Borderlands 3.]]]
[[spoiler: Rhys]] is already proving that Atlas can be better than the other megacorporations. If war does come to Pandora and across the Six Galaxies then [[spoiler: Atlas]] will probably want to make sure that they can find their missing CEO.
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...Sasha and Vaughn decided to go find their missing sister and friend respectively, with August joining them out of concern for Sasha's well-being. Eventually, they find Fiona and Rhys, and the group become actual Vault Hunters and FireForgedFriends along the way. The future sequel's (if there ever is one) present day will be set during the war that [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel the Watcher alien warned Lilith about]] or after the events of Borderlands 3. Anyway, the second season's present day will open with the gang sitting around a campfire, accompanied by LB and Gortys, and retelling their story.
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...Sasha and Vaughn decided to go find their missing sister and friend respectively, with August joining them out of concern for Sasha's well-being.well-being, eventually returning to his old, classier self and becoming way less grumpy. Eventually, they find Fiona and Rhys, and the group become actual Vault Hunters and FireForgedFriends along the way. The future sequel's (if there ever is one) present day will be set during the war that [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel the Watcher alien warned Lilith about]] or after the events of Borderlands 3. Anyway, the second season's present day will open with the gang sitting around a campfire, accompanied by LB and Gortys, and retelling their story.
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[[WMG: The Future Team will consist of:]]
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[[WMG: The Future future Team Awesome will consist of:]]
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...Sasha and Vaughn decided to go find their missing sister and friend respectively, with August joining them out of concern for Sasha's well-being. Eventually, they find Fiona and Rhys, and the group become actual Vault Hunters and FireForgedFriends along the way. The future sequel's (if there ever is one) present day will be set during the war that [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel the Watcher alien warned Lilith about]] or after the events of Borderlands 3. Anyway, the second season's present day will open with the trio sitting around a campfire with fellow Vault Hunters Rhys, Fiona, LB and Gortys and retelling their story.
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...Sasha and Vaughn decided to go find their missing sister and friend respectively, with August joining them out of concern for Sasha's well-being. Eventually, they find Fiona and Rhys, and the group become actual Vault Hunters and FireForgedFriends along the way. The future sequel's (if there ever is one) present day will be set during the war that [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel the Watcher alien warned Lilith about]] or after the events of Borderlands 3. Anyway, the second season's present day will open with the trio gang sitting around a campfire with fellow Vault Hunters Rhys, Fiona, campfire, accompanied by LB and Gortys Gortys, and retelling their story.
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...Sasha and Vaughn decided to go find their missing sister and friend respectively, with August joining them out of concern for Sasha's well-being. Eventually, they find Fiona and Rhys, and the group become actual Vault Hunters and FireForgedFriends along the way. The future sequel's (if there ever is one) present day will be set during the war that [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel the Wathcer alien warned about]] or after the events of Borderlands 3. Anyway, the second season's present day will open with the trio sitting around a campfire with fellow Vault Hunters Rhys, Fiona, LB and Gortys and retelling their story.
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...Sasha and Vaughn decided to go find their missing sister and friend respectively, with August joining them out of concern for Sasha's well-being. Eventually, they find Fiona and Rhys, and the group become actual Vault Hunters and FireForgedFriends along the way. The future sequel's (if there ever is one) present day will be set during the war that [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel the Wathcer Watcher alien warned Lilith about]] or after the events of Borderlands 3. Anyway, the second season's present day will open with the trio sitting around a campfire with fellow Vault Hunters Rhys, Fiona, LB and Gortys and retelling their story.
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...Sasha and Vaughn decided to go find their missing sister and friend respectively, with August joining them out of concern for Sasha's well-being and all three becoming Vault Hunters along the way. The future sequel's (if there ever is one) present day will be set during the war that [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel the Wathcer alien warned about]] or after the events of Borderlands 3. Anyway, the second season's present day will open with the trio sitting around a campfire with fellow Vault Hunters Rhys, Fiona, LB and Gortys and retelling their story.
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...Sasha and Vaughn decided to go find their missing sister and friend respectively, with August joining them out of concern for Sasha's well-being well-being. Eventually, they find Fiona and all three becoming Rhys, and the group become actual Vault Hunters and FireForgedFriends along the way. The future sequel's (if there ever is one) present day will be set during the war that [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel the Wathcer alien warned about]] or after the events of Borderlands 3. Anyway, the second season's present day will open with the trio sitting around a campfire with fellow Vault Hunters Rhys, Fiona, LB and Gortys and retelling their story.
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[[WMG: August has a history with ''both'' sisters.]]
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[[WMG: August has a history with ''both'' sisters.sisters, and not just in the romantic sense.]]
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...Sasha and Vaughn decided to go find their missing sister and friend respectively, with August joining them out of concern for Sasha's well-being and all three becoming Vault Hunters along the way. The future sequel's (if there ever is one) present day will be set during the war that [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel the Wathcer alien warned about]] or after the events of Borderlands 3. Anyway, the second season's present day will open with the trio sitting around a campfire with fellow Vault Hunters Rhys, Fiona, LB and Gortys and retelling their story.
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...Sasha and Vaughn decided to go find their missing sister and friend respectively, with August joining them out of concern for Sasha's well-being and all three becoming Vault Hunters along the way. The future sequel's (if there ever is one) present day will be set during the war that [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel the Wathcer alien warned about]] or after the events of Borderlands 3. Anyway, the second season's present day will open with the trio sitting around a campfire with fellow Vault Hunters Rhys, Fiona, LB and Gortys and retelling their story.story.
[[WMG: August has a history with ''both'' sisters.]]
He seems to have good knowledge of Hollow Point and owns a bar there, while Vallory has known about Fiona and Sasha for a long time. It's possible that he knew the two as children and was once friends with them, until his mother made him take a more active role in crime.
[[WMG: August has a history with ''both'' sisters.]]
He seems to have good knowledge of Hollow Point and owns a bar there, while Vallory has known about Fiona and Sasha for a long time. It's possible that he knew the two as children and was once friends with them, until his mother made him take a more active role in crime.
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The kid's initials will be L.B., [[BrickJoke in honor to Loader Bot]], and in a way that won't saddle the kid with a ridiculous name.
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The kid's initials will be L.B., [[BrickJoke in honor to Loader Bot]], and in a way that won't saddle the kid with a ridiculous name.name.
[[WMG: After the ending of Episode 5...]]
...Sasha and Vaughn decided to go find their missing sister and friend respectively, with August joining them out of concern for Sasha's well-being and all three becoming Vault Hunters along the way. The future sequel's (if there ever is one) present day will be set during the war that [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel the Wathcer alien warned about]] or after the events of Borderlands 3. Anyway, the second season's present day will open with the trio sitting around a campfire with fellow Vault Hunters Rhys, Fiona, LB and Gortys and retelling their story.
[[WMG: After the ending of Episode 5...]]
...Sasha and Vaughn decided to go find their missing sister and friend respectively, with August joining them out of concern for Sasha's well-being and all three becoming Vault Hunters along the way. The future sequel's (if there ever is one) present day will be set during the war that [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel the Wathcer alien warned about]] or after the events of Borderlands 3. Anyway, the second season's present day will open with the trio sitting around a campfire with fellow Vault Hunters Rhys, Fiona, LB and Gortys and retelling their story.
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* 0ne, as his identity is not known, he uses gender-neutral language and he has one eye, whereas Zer0 has a smooth, featureless helmet that could represent the number he's named after.
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* 0ne, as his identity is not known, he uses gender-neutral language and he has one eye, whereas Zer0 [=Zer0=] has a smooth, featureless helmet that could represent the number he's named after.
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As a last, lighthearted end to the series, there will be a montage of Rhys training with Zer0 and Fiona with Athena respectively, on Digistruct Peak, with Axton acting as a parody of DrillSergeantNasty.
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As a last, lighthearted end to the series, there will be a montage of Rhys training with Zer0 [=Zer0=] and Fiona with Athena respectively, on Digistruct Peak, with Axton acting as a parody of DrillSergeantNasty.
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* Fiona: She can use AwesomenessByAnalysis to outline critical spots like Zer0, [=Zer0=], and her shots home in on them, similar to Nisha's Showdown. As well as that, any non-elemental, Torgue or Jakobs guns have a chance to deal elemental damage that changes based on the kind of targets.
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* Helios and Elpis ''were'' present in the sky during the 'present' segments of Zer0 Sum... until a patch on August 21st removed it, which would lend some credence to his theory.
** You are referring to my post that found the discrepancy, which I found on the 21st, but the shot has been changed for much longer than that. Only fairly early gameplay footage of "Zer0 Sum" has the old shot.
** You are referring to my post that found the discrepancy, which I found on the 21st, but the shot has been changed for much longer than that. Only fairly early gameplay footage of "Zer0 Sum" has the old shot.
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* Helios and Elpis ''were'' present in the sky during the 'present' segments of Zer0 [=Zer0=] Sum... until a patch on August 21st removed it, which would lend some credence to his theory.
** You are referring to my post that found the discrepancy, which I found on the 21st, but the shot has been changed for much longer than that. Only fairly early gameplay footage of"Zer0 "[=Zer0=] Sum" has the old shot.
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So the removal of the Helios/Elpis shot from the framing device in "Zer0 Sum" implies that seeing Helios/Elpis in that part of the timeline is an error of some kind. With Jack in control of Helios at the end of "Escape Plan Bravo", our protagonists might have to find a way to stop him. If he's literally Helios, though, its hard to stop him unless you destroy Helios. One of the only ways I can think of to do this is to crash Helios into Elpis.
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So the removal of the Helios/Elpis shot from the framing device in "Zer0 "[=Zer0=] Sum" implies that seeing Helios/Elpis in that part of the timeline is an error of some kind. With Jack in control of Helios at the end of "Escape Plan Bravo", our protagonists might have to find a way to stop him. If he's literally Helios, though, its hard to stop him unless you destroy Helios. One of the only ways I can think of to do this is to crash Helios into Elpis.
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* If not, they could be DLC characters, or Vault-Hunters-in-Training at Digistruct Peak.
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* If not, they could be DLC characters, or Vault-Hunters-in-Training at Digistruct Peak. Perhaps between TFTB and [=BL3=], they were trained at Digistruct Peak by every existing Vault Hunter, and eventually became ready enough to destroy entire corporate armies.
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* Confirmed [[spoiler: In the finale, they are specifically referred to as Vault Hunters by Loader Bot.]]
[[WMG:If Rhys becomes a vault hunter in BL3, he'll specialize in crits and elemental damage.]]
[[WMG:If Rhys becomes a vault hunter in BL3, he'll specialize in crits and elemental damage.]]
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* Confirmed [[spoiler: In the finale, they are all specifically referred to as Vault Hunters by Loader Bot.]]
[[WMG:If Rhys becomes a vault hunter inBL3, [=BL3=], he'll specialize in crits and elemental damage.]]
[[WMG:If Rhys becomes a vault hunter in
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They'd probably end up in the more dramatic scenes of each game Telltale has done to give some serious MoodWhiplash. For example, popping in during Walking Dead Season 1 when Lee has to kill Duck.
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They'd probably end up in the more dramatic scenes of each game Telltale has done to give some serious MoodWhiplash. For example, popping in during Walking Dead Season 1 when Lee has to kill Duck.Duck.
[[WMG: Rhys will have a child by the time Borderlands 3 rolls in.]]
The kid's initials will be L.B., [[BrickJoke in honor to Loader Bot]], and in a way that won't saddle the kid with a ridiculous name.
[[WMG: Rhys will have a child by the time Borderlands 3 rolls in.]]
The kid's initials will be L.B., [[BrickJoke in honor to Loader Bot]], and in a way that won't saddle the kid with a ridiculous name.
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Because of [[spoiler: Rhys being the new owner of Atlas]] it would stand to reason they would implement Hyperion tech into their Atlas designs.
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Because of [[spoiler: Rhys being the new owner of Atlas]] it would stand to reason they would implement Hyperion tech into their Atlas designs.designs.
[[WMG: If they do Tales From The Borderlands 2, Rhys and Fiona will have found themselves teleporting through other Telltale games]]
They'd probably end up in the more dramatic scenes of each game Telltale has done to give some serious MoodWhiplash. For example, popping in during Walking Dead Season 1 when Lee has to kill Duck.
[[WMG: If they do Tales From The Borderlands 2, Rhys and Fiona will have found themselves teleporting through other Telltale games]]
They'd probably end up in the more dramatic scenes of each game Telltale has done to give some serious MoodWhiplash. For example, popping in during Walking Dead Season 1 when Lee has to kill Duck.
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* Semi-Jossed. Fiona picks up weapons other than her Derringer, but she never keeps them, and Rhys never uses any guns except his finger guns. [[spoilers: And Gortys' finger guns.]]
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* Semi-Jossed. Fiona picks up weapons other than her Derringer, but she never keeps them, and Rhys never uses any guns except his finger guns. [[spoilers: [[spoiler: And Gortys' finger guns.]]
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[[WMG:Fiona will turn out to be a Siren.]]
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* Semi-Jossed. Fiona picks up weapons other than her Derringer, but she never keeps them, and Rhys never uses any guns except his finger guns. [[spoilers: And Gortys' finger guns.]]
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* Both Jossed. The game ends with the two of them entering the Vault of The Traveller and collecting the loot within.
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* Jossed.
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*** Given she's in her 20s, she was most definitely born before Roland arrived on Pandora. And photographic evidence in the game indicates that she grew up on Pandora with Fiona. And also Roland was only in his 30s according to the few pieces of information regarding his age we have, so it carries some pretty [[{{Squick}} squicky]] implications if he somehow ''is'' her father.