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As a WMG subpage, all spoilers are unmarked as per policy. You Have Been Warned.


Hell is temporary
(Or, at least, life in Hell as a Husk) Based on Torment Fraud, which implies that ones sentence in Hell can be sped up, it can be inferred that this is the case. "But Satan has said that Hell is forever" and Satan is called "The Deceiver" for a reason.
  • On the other hand, Legal Lee isn't exactly renowned for his honesty either. The whole thing could be a con.

Previous antagonists from the Saints Row series will appear in Gat Out of Hell.
In Saints Row IV, the returning villains were all drawn from the histories of the Saints when they were trapped in their Ironic Hells. Since Gat is now actually going to Hell, there's a good chance that other baddies whom he and the Boss sent there will make an appearance. A second No-Holds-Barred Beatdown on Shogo Akuji, anyone?

Lin, Carlos, Viola, Kiki and Troy will return

Let's face it, their is no way they went to heaven so having them join up with Gat and Kinzie in Hell is not much of a stretch. Viola and Kiki are confirmed!

  • Troy returns too...as a husk, who is controlled in a Fraud mission.
  • Lin, Carlos, Oleg and Josh are all show up in Viola's section of post-credits epilogue. It's somewhat implied that they all went to Heaven.

Dane Vogel is planning on usurping Satan.
Because given his track record, a betrayal is inevitable.
  • And...it turns out he's your ALLY. And never betrays you. It'd be stupid to do so. Instead, he gets a decent Xanatos Gambit going.

Philipe Loren has been in league with Satan for some time, and will appear as one of his lieutenants.
It's possible Loren sold his soul to the Devil in return for his wealth and power, with his cartel showing not-so-subtle hints of more sinister influences. The Syndicate's icon is a five-pointed star. Loren's gang, The Morningstar, possibly take their name from one of Lucifer's titles. Lastly, the Morningstar operate in the most reprehensible aspects of the criminal underworld; prostitution rings, human trafficking, mass drug dealing, along with more out-there interests such as cloning and black market biotech research. What role Loren would play could go either way; he could have convinced Satan to drag The Boss into Hell as some form of revenge, or possibly opposed to the marriage as it would make The Boss heir to ruling the Underworld.

Jyunichi will return.
If only for Gat and Jyunichi to have a rematch. With superpowers.
  • Jyunichi shows up in the epilogue as one of the villains who team up against the Ultor alliance. He is defeated and is conscripted into Blackbeard's crew. Sadly, Johnny never gets to meet him.

Johnny and the rest of the Saints may have gotten a 'Get out of Hell free' card
At the end of the game, Satan banishes Johnny, Kinzie, Jezebel and the Boss from Hell - barring the ending where Johnny takes over hell - it's likely none of the currently living Saints will be allowed to go to/return to hell, simply because Satan won't want them down there causing more trouble against him. Not to mention, God knows that if Johnny or the Boss do get down there, Satan would want to try and use them again to lead his armies to war on Heaven, so the best scenario would be to fast track them to Heaven when they inevitably bite the dust.

The sins for the weapons Gallows Dodger and Arc of the Covenant were swapped.
The Seven Deadly Weapons in the game each correspond to one of the Seven Deadly Sins. However, two of the weapons do not seem to fit their assigned sins- the pistol Gallows Dodger, which represents Pride, is sentient, Ax-Crazy, and talks about how it wants to destroy everyone, and it's acquired by repeatedly killing someone who had pissed off the Saints when he was still alive, all of which seems to fit better with Wrath. Meanwhile, the Arc of the Covenant weapon, which is supposed to be Wrath, has a clear reference to Raiders of the Lost Ark, where one needed to bow and avert one's eyes (showing humility) to survive its activation and fits with Pride. It therefore seems that the weapons were originally intended to be tied to the other sin and that this was switched for some reason prior to the game's release.
  • Actually, one can be a Blood Knight and still be prideful. In fact, a lot of a Blood Knights aren't killing because they are angry, they kill because they ENJOY killing. Some even take PRIDE in their ability to kill, and will mock others.

The retcon ending is canon.
Spoilers Off applies to this page, so if you've gotten this far without wanting to turn back but don't want the ending spoiled, this is your only warning to turn back now.

Despite Gat's mass murdering nature, there's clearly good in him, and quite it bit for that matter. Likewise, Matt and Kinzie are also rather good people, if amoral. None of them are actually sociopaths, and given Kinzie's dialog at the start of the game, Matt's age and Gat's backstory, they're basically three child soldiers, all grown up. Two tech based, and one from a gang background. So, if anyone is deserving of a do-over, it's those three. Besides, God is Nathan Fillion. Considering how immersed into their characters the entire cast of Firefly got, to the point where they were actually following Nathan as if he were really their captain, it's quite likely that he'd identify with a group of rag-tag misfits in space with a crew that includes a young dorky nerd, a super-kinky super-genius girl, a trained killer brute with a sensitive side, a hard-as-nails female second-in-command who only shows any softness around those she's closest to, an older black man with a sexy voice and of course, the leader that does what needs to be done for their crew, and will go to hell and back for them. Also, yes, you just realized that the majority of the cast of Saints Row IV is an Expy of the crew of Serenity.

  • Wouldn't Zimos, Asha and Oleg also get a shot at resurrection ? For that matters, all of the Saints seems that they could be good in others circumstances.
  • Agents of Mayhem seems to confirm this is the case.
    • Zigzagged by Word of God claiming AoM is just one possible universe, not explicitly canon, more of a multiverse thing.

The Retcon ending is Gods way of ensuring the entire series never happened to prevent the events of this game, as well as killing the biggest threat, The Boss.
God could have retconned the world back to just before the events of Saints Row IV, allowing the Saints time to prepare for Zinyak and stopping the worlds destruction, but that might have still put The Boss and/or Gat on Satans radar. So, instead of that, He seems to have specifically altered Gats life, because while The Boss was the one getting things done, The Playa would never have became the Boss without Gat, without Gats help, the Playa died early on, and with Gat becoming a cop instead of a psychotic gang member, the Saints lost 2 of their most powerful members and collapsed, meaning the events of the games never happened, simultaneously stopping Satans plan for the ultimate general, the rise of the Saints to rulers of the known universe, and possibly stopping Zinyaks invasion due to the world of Agents of Mayhem seemingly being more technologically advanced, with Kinzies throwaway line in IV, about them not building a alien defence system maybe being implimented in the AoM universe.

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