History WMG / PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies

** Semi-confirmed in ''VisualNovel/SpiritOfJustice''. Gaspen's freakout makes his wig fall from his head, revealing he is bald.

As in, he'll have permanent scarring and probably experience a lot of pain in his arms and shoulders for the rest of his life, due to damaged nerves. There's no way he didn't sustain nerve damage by blocking a huge piece of debris from crushing Juniper with only his arms. He's lucky he didn't ''break'' anything. Unless he's actually Franchise/SpiderMan. Which would explain a lot.

[[WMG:[[spoiler:The Phantom, aka the fake Bobby Fulbright is able to NoSell Phoenix Wright's Magatama.]]]]
During the investigation of case 5-4, Phoenix asks why [[spoiler: Detective Fulbright]] being so cooperative with them in providing evidence and CSI assistance despite being on the prosecution's side. This leads Phoenix and Athena to suspect that [[spoiler: Fulbright]] has and ulterior motive for helping them which leads to [[spoiler: two of Fubright's red Psyche-Locks]] popping. After breaking the locks, [[spoiler: Fulbright]] reveals that the reason he decided to help them was because he felt it was unjust that the space center went ahead with the launch despite a bomb threat being called in and why a convicted felon like Simon Blackquill is still acting as a criminal prosecutor. Blackquill had personal vendetta for seven years which may lead to him making a false conviction due to his irrational thinking and behavior. However, if you had beaten the game, you would have known that [[spoiler: Bobby Fulbright was really the Phantom in disguise]] and his motive for helping the Defense Team wasn't about making sure true justice happens in the courtroom, but to prevent his secret identity from be revealed by providing the defense with fake support and evidence. Phoenix Magatama wasn't able to pick up his true psyche-locks and considering what kind of a person the [[spoiler: Phantom]] is, not even black pysche-locks showed up. It appears the [[spoiler: Phantom's]] BecomingTheMask act was so powerful that it was able to fool Phoenix's Magatama (which is supposed to detect if a person is keeping secrets or not) making it think he really is [[spoiler: Detective Bobby Fulbright]].
* It's more likely because [[spoiler:Phantom is so deep into the Fulbright role, that's what he would actually do]]. It's somewhat similar to what happened in the second game, [[spoiler:Phoenix didn't ask the right question to find out what "Fulbright" is truly hiding, just like Matt Engarde]].

Her design seems to be inspired by crescent moons, which adorned [[spoiler:Thalassa as Lamiroir]]'s clothes. Also, she seems to be focuses on reading the emotions behind what people are saying, and her name is [[spoiler:like Apollo's in that it is named after a Greek God.]] She could very well possibly be another of [[spoiler: Thalassa's children.]]

* [[spoiler: Jossed. She wears crescent moon earrings and specialises in psychology because her mother worked at an astronomy research facility and was a professor in psychology.]]

* [[spoiler:Confirmed, more or less. She gets kidnapped by Aura's robots in Case 5.]]

** There was only one victim in the bombing [[spoiler: and it was even revealed that she was killed before the incident]] and it was an entirely new character. So, fully Jossed.

[[spoiler:Now with some scans out (surprise!), I'd like adding to this WMG. Apollo is now a prosecutor - temporarily, because Trucy AND Klavier got hit in the explosion. It's probably similiar to Edgeworth being Phoenix's stand-in in Trial and Tribulations. However, I don't think the silhouette in the trailer is him though, the hair is too different (unless they change the design)]]
* There is another version of a "Prosecutor Justice Theory". Apollo will become a prosecutor in his own will, because of an issue between he, Phoenix, and [[spoiler:Lamiroir, who is actually Thalassa Gramarye, he and Trucy's mother]]. Also inspired by a fan-fic written by a person in Fanfiction.net named "nevertalk".

* Though Apollo ''does'' display that he'd make a fantastic prosecutor in Case 5 when he's testifying and does the prosecution's work ''for'' them. [[spoiler: Edgeworth]] doesn't get much commentary in whilst Apollo is on the stand. So in a way, he was prosecuting, even if it wasn't official.

*** [[spoiler: Confirmed: The jacket belonged to his best friend, Apollo starts to wear it after he is murdered.]]
*** {{Jossed}}, well, the one the "silhouette" part. See [[http://24.media.tumblr.com/35861a4f4009bf59e35e7c59ca1c37a2/tumblr_mldsxoU4vu1qm61tko1_500.jpg THIS]] why. And yes, that dude is the silhouette.

* They're of a closer age, and unlike Trucy [[spoiler: she isn't his half-sister]], so this seems to makes sense.
** [[spoiler: They get some ShipTease, Klavier even thinks they are dating but it is nothing compared to the amount that Juniper/Apollo receives.]]

* [[spoiler:Jossed, if you're referring to AA5 - Maya doesn't appear personally in the game (though she does send Phoenix a letter), and she certainly isn't involved in a murder, so this isn't what motivated Phoenix to get his badge back. But she may well appear in future games, and get caught up in a murder as per tradition.]]
** [[spoiler: While she doesn't appear in AA5, it's hinted that she will appear in the next game (chronologically speaking, obviously). In the letter she sent Phoenix, she mentions that she wants to see him, but can't at the time because she's undergoing a vital part of her training. In the credits, Pearl says that Maya is due to visit when she finishes her training.]]

[[spoiler:After the credits at the end of ''Investigation'', he says that he might try to become a lawyer with a bailiff to help him.]]

* Confirmed. Edgeworth and Pearl [[spoiler:(and if her letter is any indication, Maya)]] know about Phoenix's disbarring.

** [[spoiler: All jossed apart from the second guess, Athena is a new character but her history is related to Phoenix's disbarment, her mother was employed at the same space centre as Apollo's best friend and she attends the same high school that Klavier once did.]]
* Actually an Android...[[spoiler: Built for the sole purpose of integrating the emotion-reading technology into a form that could be used in court expressly for the purpose of using the Mood Matrix to bring down the Phantom. Essentially the ultimate product of the emotion research put into Ponco and Clonco. It'd explain her sudden spout of knowledge into psychology and law in such a short space of time with no contacts to speak of. Government benefactors shipped her off after her co-creator (Metis) was murdered where she was refitted and reprogrammed with knowledge and rewired to suppress the trauma which had shocked her 'core'. This explains how she turns over a brand new leaf personality wise considering how shy and reclusive she was pre-trauma. Also explains how she is strong enough to fling a guard effortlessly through the air and how widget can READ HER MIND (biological to technological mind reading in a small device is nonsense, much more plausible for there to be a wireless signal between her and widget). Aura was utterly furious the Government pulled her 'product' away and misdirected this aggression towards Athena when she met her again seeing her as 'her' property but living her own life (she doesn't have a high opinion of robots). Widget was clearly designed to serve as a communication tool before Athena could properly speak as it could convey thoughts and emotions she struggled with. Athena thinks the robotic operating table is a one-shot fix-all for people? IT WOULD BE FOR HER IF SHE WAS AN ANDROID. It provides a plausible explanation as to where Athena gets her relatively unexplained power too and how it could be controlled with technology (her headphones) as later on during the refitting they solved that glitch perfecting Athenatron's design. Bonus points if Athena's 'power' is sourced from the strange frequencies given off by the space rock.]]

** [[spoiler: All jossed.]]

* [[spoiler: Kurain Channeling Technique is actually reverse Yomiel. Instead of the spirit posessing the body, the Kurain Technique is to summon them into the channeller's body.]]
** [[spoiler: The Magatama they all endow is a Temsik fragment.]]

* Jossed. Maya is alive, having sent Phoenix a letter [[spoiler:and is scheduled to visit, as Pearl says in TheStinger]], so she can't be channeling Phoenix.

A big deal is being made over this game having a darker tone. The first case is about a bomb in a courtroom which surely would entail a higher body count than usual (since it's usually just one) and that's just the beginning. I wouldn't be surprised if another aspect is that changes have been made to the courts to possibly make them even more harsh, as Phoenix himself said in AJ:AA that a dark time for them is coming. But really, how much 'darkness' can come out of that? The aim of the game is always to win the case [[spoiler: (I know, there's an exception to that but shut up!)]] so if Phoenix is still managing that (and by now he must be savvy to the fact that if his client is innocent, he WILL win in the end) then how dark can it be? If times are really difficult for Phoenix, and he's in a properly bad place, I'd guess that either an established character from his trilogy or someone else he knew closely is dead.

** Maya sends Phoenix a letter [[spoiler:and is planning on visiting Phoenix]], so that's Jossed.

Revealed screenshots of the case show [[http://images.wikia.com/aceattorney/images/e/e4/Postgallery-5.jpeg this]] image of the MadBomber behind the incident. Although half their face his covered by a [[BuffySpeak weird helmet-thing]], it's pretty clear they're an older male. (Well, they're ''definately'' not your client, that's for sure) But just look at the grin. Doesn't it look 'Payne-ish' to you? Furthermore, it's also stated that Payne's brother is [[KnightOfCerebus considerably more villainous]] that Payne was, and isn't afraid to use [[AmoralAttorney dirty tactics.]] [[spoiler: Considering what lengths other [[AmoralAttorney Amoral Attorneys]] in the series have gone to,]] bombing doesn't seem out of the question. And plus, how much of a shake-up would it be to have 'the prosecutor did it' in ''the very first case''!
** {{Jossed}}, ''probably''. The new trailer indicates this character as Ted Tonate, and doesn't even ''attempt'' to hide his suspiciousness, so he's probably just as much of a BadLiar as Sawhit. (That and the last chartacter who appeared in a trailer like this [[spoiler: Portsman]] did indeed turn out to be guilty) There's still room to believe the bombing was masterminded by someone else though.
*** [[spoiler:Tonate isn't the bomber either. It's Phantom, who is most likely not either of the Paynes.]]

Well, they did say "dark days are coming for the legal system." It kinda makes sense, and it would be a nice call back to the smuggling ring in the first ''Investigations.'' For bonus points, [[spoiler: Kristoph had connections with the group, which relates to his black Psyche-Locks. Or maybe they're his followers acting under some kind of 'if anything happens to me' failsafe plan. Perhaps his GambitSpeedChess with Wright is still going...]]
* [[spoiler: Considering the people who watched (and attempted to assassinate) the Phantom, this is most likely confirmed.]]

** [[spoiler: {{Jossed}}. Yumihiko does not make an appearance in this game at any point.]]

* Jossed. [[spoiler: As a child, she lived in the GYAXA space station in Los Angeles.]] She is confirmed to have studied in Europe, however, so it's entirely possible that she trained as a laywer in Germany.

* [[spoiler:Unless he's Phantom, Jossed.]]

** [[spoiler:While the idea with Kristoph's is jossed, black Psyche-Locks DO return, and we DO get to crack them.]]
** [[spoiler:It's likely that Kristoph's Psyche-locks already cracked at the end of 4-4, and his breakdown was the result of the "brute force" method Pearl mentioned.]]

** [[spoiler: Confirmed, though it's Edgeworth and ''a'' Fey.]]

* Based on the demo, [[spoiler:Apollo got the injuries by protecting Juniper from the debris.]] So confirmed, I guess.
* [[spoiler: Jossed actually. It is later revealed he was not injured in the bombing. He is wearing the bandages to suppress his "perceive" ability. ]]
** [[spoiler: No, it's confirmed, because Athena has to take the defence's bench in Case 1 because his wounds reopen. She actually notes that he's bleeding through his bandages. So yes, he got badly hurt. The only thing there to suppress his perception is the eyepatch.]]

** [[spoiler: Confirmed. He took the fall after Athena supposedly killed her mother.]]

** [[spoiler: Confirmed. It's the whole reason behind the final trial.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:Fulbright was the killer in Blackquill's case, and will be the BigBad of the game.]]]]
* [[spoiler:Mostly because their names would work well as a DarkIsNotEvil, LightIsNotGood motif. Fulbright will have been ObsfucationStupidity the whole time, and either his "In Justice we trust" CatchPhrase will be bitterly ironic ''or'' take on a twisted meaning as he is revealed to be a ruthless KnightTemplar detective who's willing to forge evidence and tamper with crime scenes to ensure criminals are found guilty... and if all else fails, he takes justice into his own hands and murders them himself. ]]
** [[spoiler:Confirmed, for the most part. Though it's not actually Fulbright...]]

* Specifically, him finding out about [[spoiler: Bansai Ichiyanagi, and him being the Chief Prosecutor who gave von Karma the penalty, thus leading to the DL-6 incident.]] Now knowing full well the damage an AmoralAttorney in the position can do, Edgeworth was determined to never let that happen again.

* Will be [[spoiler:Thalassa/Lamiroir]]. This is when Phoenix will tell Apollo and Trucy [[spoiler:that she was their mother, and they realize they're half-siblings.]]

** [[spoiler:Semi-Confirmed. The last case acts similar to Case 1-4 where both the past case and the present case are solved, in this case the UR-1 incident and the Clay Terran murder and both having the same mastermind no less. Klavier's return as a prosecutor here is jossed though.]]

* [[spoiler:Jossed.]]

* Already happened [[spoiler: in Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney. Specifically, case 1.]]

(4) One of the animals from the local prison as seen in The Imprisoned Turnabout. Though why they thought animal therapy would be usefull [[spoiler: for a prisoner on death row]] is beyond me.

** Maya did return [[spoiler:briefly, but only in a flashback. Jossed.]]

*** [[spoiler: Jossed in the main game.]]

** Jossed. He ''does'' have a "freakout", but it's not losing his hair, it's [[spoiler:running away from the courtroom.]]
** [[spoiler:Semi-confirmed in ''VisualNovel/SpiritOfJustice''. Gaspen's freakout makes his wig fall from his head, revealing he is bald.]]

** Confirmed. Case 2 is the first case chronologically, then Case 3[[spoiler:, and Case 1 actually takes place in the middle of Case 4.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:The true identity of the Phantom...]]]]
* [[spoiler: Will be revealed along with the identity of his killer/the company he works for in a future Ace Attorney.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:The real Bobby Fulbright was a victim of the Phantom. His body [[NeverFoundTheBody was never discovered (possibly disposed)]] .]]]]
[[spoiler:Confirmed, I guess. It was said that he died a year before the events of the case, so...]]

[[WMG: Ema Skye [[spoiler:will return in a DLC case.]]]]
[[spoiler: And she will appear either before or after the revelation that Fulbright is an impostor (though most likely after).]]

[[WMG:[[spoiler:The Phantom is a [[OurDemonsAreDifferent supernatural being]] [[HumanoidAbomination of some sort]].]]]]
The reason you never see his face is because [[spoiler:''he doesn't have one''-only the masks. If you took them off, you'd find a LivingShadow of some sort.]]
* [[spoiler: Considering the space motifs throughout the latter two cases, what if the Phantom was an actual alien?]]

[[WMG:[[spoiler:The Phantom is Souta Sarushiro/Simon Keyes]]]]
* This stems from one moment in ''Investigations 2'' Case 5, where [[spoiler: Souta]] manages to mimic Edgeworth ''perfectly'', including his voiced Objection. Maybe this could have been {{Foreshadowing}}? [[spoiler: As for the loss of identity, Souta seems like the kind of guy who'd ''want'' to forget [[DarkAndTroubledPast his past.]] And given his only father figure was an assassin, maybe he decided to become one himself?]]

[[WMG:[[spoiler:The Phantom is Calisto Yew/Shih-na]]]]
* It may seem completely out there, [[spoiler: but we never did find out who she truly was, so completely losing her identity might not be hard to imagine and she was already a skilled infiltrator. The body change is dramatic, but considering how some characters transform it's not uncommon.]]
** [[spoiler:If that’s the case, then that means Calisto Yew broke out of prison. Though, I’m not sure why she would do that, the smuggling ring is dead thanks to the arrest of Quercus Alba... although, now that I think about it, what if it didn’t? What if the smuggling ring survived? Sure, Alba and Ernest were arrested and Manny is dead, but if this is correct then Calisto Yew may have broken out of prison, and then, maybe, she took over. Maybe the ring never died. We don’t know what organization the Phantom works for. Maybe it’s the ring? Sure, Zheng Fa‘s President claims that ring died, but what if it just reorganized. Or stop operations for a while. Or left Zheng Fa entirely and that’s all the President cares about. Or maybe he doesn’t actually know and made the whole event just for publicity. This the same event where he faked an attempt on his life to look powerful. Maybe he pretended the ring dead to look good. Or maybe the President has a part in the ring. He’s not noblest person. Admittedly, I don’t know why the smuggling ring would want to sabotage a rocket, but we don’t know why the Phantom’s organization wanted to begin with. Maybe the ring has connections to private space corporations and GYAXA was a huge threat? Maybe this theoretical private corporation was owned by the Amano group? Maybe they also survived? Sure, we ''assume'' that they dissolved after Ernest Amano was tried, but we have no evidence. Or hell, ''even if'' the smuggling ring ''is'' dead, that doesn’t mean the Calisto Yew is out of a job. Maybe the Phantom is actually like de Killer, but instead of being an assassin for hire, the Phantom is a spy for hire, and the Phantom works for multiple organizations. And looping back to the first statement, if this theory is true, then Calisto/the Phantom broke out of before, whose to say they won’t do it again?]]

[[WMG:[[spoiler:The Phantom is from/working for the same foreign country from ''VideoGame/GhostTrick''.]]]]
* In Ghost Trick, it was shown just how far the country was willing to go to in order for them to [[spoiler:get the Temsik meteor and the Ghost powers]], so it's not that hard to imagine them [[spoiler:sabotaging another nation's space program]] for their own needs. It has been previously confirmed by WordOfGod that both franchises are in the same universe, so you'd only have to imagine the blue skin was merely GT's artistic license and not how they truly looked. [[spoiler:Phantom's realistic and numerous masks]] also fits in with their odd technology: advanced, but a bit off.

[[WMG: Bobby Fulbright [[spoiler: isn't dead.]]]]
[[spoiler: He was just in a coma but Edgeworth had to lie about this to protect him as a witness. He'll return in a future game as a bitter, cynical badass detective with a new identity, much like Godot from Trials and Tribulations. The 'new' Bobby's main goal is vengeance against the organization that stole his life.]]
* [[spoiler: Bonus points if his face has been disfigured in some way.]]
** [[spoiler: Even better-when the lawyers figure out that he's the real Fulbright, his first few lines after he drops the "Noir" act will be "In justice...WE TRUST!" Major Crowning Moment potential there.]]
*** [[spoiler: Messed-up idea -- he wasn't in a coma, he was in a mental institution. The Phantom failed in trying to kill him, but messed up his face well enough that when Bobby tried to tell people he was the real deal and the Phantom was just an impostor, no one believed him.]]
** Would clear up a major contradiction in Turnbabout for Tommorrow. [[spoiler: If the real Fulbright died a year ago why is his corpse in good enough condition to be printed. If he was prints when the body was discovered why did the Phahtom's impersonation scheme work at all? Surely the police would notice one of their officers prints showing up on a corpse. The only logical explanation is the second one. Fulbright is heavily scarred, and comatose/"legally dead" and will awaken when it's convenient for the writers.]]
** It IS rather suspicious that [[spoiler: they never printed the comatose Fulbright, who would have been a John Doe during his stay at the hospital. If they'd printed him or even run a DNA test to see if they could identify him, they would have gotten an answer right away because Fulbright is in the police database. It's also very suspicious that they just happened to find his corpse when it was convenient, and instead of relying on DNA which is the logical thing to do to a year old corpse, they chose to get it's prints. Which means that both of these situations seem rather unlikely. This would imply that the real Fulbright is most likely not only ''alive'', but fully concious and active. It's possible that he hid his identity, or perhaps mostly lost it, for that year's time before he went to the police department on hearing that the Phantom was in trial and announced who he really is. Fulbright would have appeared on television during Cases 4 and 5, because the bombing of the Cosmos Space Centre was possibly covered by the media, and we can see media members during Case 5's hostage situation. If the real Fulbright didn't die but lost his identity, he might have realised what had happened and who he really was on seeing the Phantom on the telly. It's possible that Edgeworth was using ExactWords at the time, and Fulbright, the real one, believes ThatManIsDead.]]
*** I'm calling it. [[spoiler:Bobby Fulbright was "declared dead" and was placed under witness protection and will appear as a witness in Supreme Court testifying against the Phantom for War Crimes.]]
[[WMG: The next game will deal with the fallout from [[spoiler:Phantom's case and confessions]], and it will ''not'' be pretty]]
[[spoiler:Phantom himself mentions (while still in disguise) that the Phantom has sensitive, important, and most of all ''risky'' information and intel on several organizations, corporations, and even whole countries. Now that he knows they're literally gunning for him, he has no reason not to spill the beans on everything and everyone. The amount of court cases this'll start is gonna be staggering, the stakes will be just as big, and our cast is going to be smack dab in the middle of it all. The [[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Zheng Fa plot]] pales in comparison to what could happen here. With this, and the dark age of the law not yet over, our lawyers are gonna have their hands full.]]

[[WMG: Aura Blackquill's [[spoiler: kidnapping scheme]] was planned well in advance, and [[spoiler: Edgeworth]] was in on it/knew about it.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:The organization that hired the Phantom is...]]]]

[[WMG: The case of [[spoiler: State vs. Blackquill was rigged]]]]
[[spoiler: All they would have had to do was look back in the footage to find that someone else was at the crime scene, and therefore a whole other suspect for Metis's murder. That's too obvious an oversight for neither defense nor prosecution to notice.]]

[[spoiler: Now, the prosecution not mentioning it can easily be explained by saying they had a similar philosophy as Von Karma: they did notice and said nothing because it would hurt their case. However, why wouldn't the defense bring it up? Because they wanted to lose. The attorney was a plant from the same country as the Phantom. After all, there's precedence for people sneaking into the field with Calisto Yew.]]

[[WMG: As an addition to the idea above,[[spoiler: the whole court system is being manipulated... by Kristoph Gavin.]]]]
Oh, and in the greatest DoubleSubversion this series has ever seen, the Phantom is HiddenInPlainSight... [[spoiler: HE REALLY IS Detective Fullbright!]]
Think about it. Why would [[spoiler: such a [[ImplacableMan agent like the Phantom]], (or whoever employs him) [[KillAndReplace kill Fullbright]] but not cut his fingerprints off after wending his life? BECAUSE THE BODY WAS DESIGNED TO BE FOUND. Who would find it? A person in the court system, who could hide it from public knowledge until [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness Fulbright needed to be silenced]]. It's easy enough to fake fingerprints if you can make full-scale face masks that look real. [[WMG/PoisonOakEpilepticTrees Ema Skye could have been killed for finding out!]] [[TheChessmaster He got Phoenix convicted on trumped-up charges caused by conspiracy, he has black Psyche-locks, and has demonstrated unparalleled manipulation of the system. Your Honor, I submit that Kristoph Gavin has been using the whole court system, slowly, to get his way and provide his own warped sense of 'Justice' to the proceedings, and that he is , in fact, a fellow conspirator, and probably the attorney behind Fullbright's conviction.]]]]

Similar to how AA5 brought Phoenix back to the defense bench while simultaneously keeping Apollo there, it's possible we can have more than one detective, too. [[spoiler:Of course, with Fulbright out of the picture, they'd need to introduce one more detective to keep with the RuleOfThree. A member of his family, perhaps?]]

He has no identity or real face because he's an Outer God. May also explain how he messed up the mood matrix so badly- [[YouCannotGraspTheTrueForm it couldn't comprehend such alien emotions.]] Of course, the biggest clue is [[spoiler: having so many masks that the true face will never be found.]] Given this, maybe the Ace Attorney universe should watch their back- all of this was, of course, in line with Nyarlathotep's ultimate plan- whatever that may be.

[[WMG: Robin Newman is [[spoiler:male-to-female]].]]
In other words, Robin was [[spoiler:biologically male and as such was assigned male by default. At some point in her life, she discovered that she aligned more as female than male, and may have ''possibly'' undergone reassignment surgery, hence the brace and her noticable chest curves when the brace comes off, but her parents did not approve of this and forced her to continue living as a male.]]
* This would explain why [[spoiler:she takes on some female stereotypes after her gender is revealed. She suddenly starts spelling out words and acronyms (O-M-G, e.g.), spinning and squeeing, and constantly posing at angles that show off her curves. This behavior bothered me at first because she was suddenly acting like a shallow girly-girl, but ''that's the point.'' She misguidedly thinks that a) she has to be feminine, and b) this is how to do it.]] Alternatively, [[spoiler: she's just had to bottle up her femininity for so long that she now unintentionally expresses it in an over-the-top way.]]

* '''''OBJECTION!''''' The possibility remains that he could have [[spoiler: killed Bobby Fulbright,]] which he would be unable to correct by [[spoiler: rewinding time.]] Thus, his only option would be to disguise himself as the target.

Several times in 5-4, it's mentioned that the Moon Rock that was being researched could change the course of civilization all by itself. Although it's never mentioned ''how'', it's interesting that Metis Cykes, a psychologist, was one of those researchers. Meaning that the Moon Rock's qualities might affect the qualities of human mental abilities in a positive fashion (which isn't exactly unprecedented; see the meteor-forged Arrows from ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure''). While the Moon Rock we see is a melange of black and yellow, it's not too far-fetched to imagine that any piece of Moon Rock that the bracelet might have been forged from was mostly yellow-ish, rather like Athena's earring. Thus, Apollo's bracelet might already be an example of how Moon Rock's boons might work, assisting human empathetic awareness. [[spoiler: And whoever the phantom's employers are would like the Moon Rock's powers all to themselves, thus giving them a motive to sabotage the HAT projects.]]

Well between Apollo's ButtMonkey status, Phoenix's disbarment [[spoiler: and Athena being framed for murder]], it seems likely that Apollo would wind up in the defendant role soon. Pearl is also close to Phoenix and unlike her sister Mia, has nothing stopping her from helping with his cases, in fact it's possible that she might follow in Mia's footsteps and join the Wright Anything Agency.

As for who would go after those two: Well for starters, Phoenix Wright had already successfully defended multiple people and recently foiled [[spoiler: the Phantom's]] plot. But someone had to hire him in the first place. With Pearl and Apollo out of the way, that only leaves Phoenix's finitely-powered magmatama and Athena's Mood Matrix, Once that magmatama dries up, It falls back to Athena...

As for why? [[WatsonianVersusDoylist Besides the devs finally making Apollo the defendant,]] [[spoiler: Athena was the defendant of the last case of Dual Destinies, and it was revealed that her earring is made of the moon rock.]] With Apollo and Pearl in prison or worse and Phoenix powerless, all it would take is separating the two and [[spoiler: stealing the earring and that rock is theirs.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: Phantom's employers set him up for [[UriahGambit the fall]]]]]]
Their goal was to send a spy to sabotage the HAT-1 right, but the spy failed. [[YouHaveFailedMe His employers were mad]] and decided to pull a BatmanGambit, knowing that [[spoiler: the moon rock had his blood]], they hired him to erase the evidence and try to get the witness imprisoned. [[spoiler: Phantom spent the next seven years looking for Athena as the Hope Capsule would not return until then.]]

In the meantime, he decided to keep an eye on his unintentional decoy Simon Blackquill, Taking many identities in the process including [[spoiler: Bobby Fulbright's]] but You likely know that. However during the case before Simon's execution, his employers hired assassins to off the phantom both because of revenge for failing to stop the HAT-1 and [[HeKnowsTooMuch because he has knowledge they would rather keep secret]]. However [[spoiler: the phantom as shown in his testimony, knew that his employers sent him on a UriahGambit]], but kept his cool until his "identity" was revealed at which point the assassin shot him [[VillainousBreakdown at his most vulnerable point]]. [[BatmanGambit Their plan used Phoenix, Blackquill and Athena to reveal]] [[spoiler: the phantom]] because the moment the HAT-1 Miracle happened, [[YouHaveOutlivedYourusefullness he became a liability]].

[[WMG: [[spoiler:The Phantom's true identity is Yumihiko's/Sebastian's long, lost mom.]]]]
She was [[spoiler:never killed by Bansai/Blaise]] like everyone assumed she was. After disappearing, she became [[spoiler:the Phantom and slowly lost her sense of identity]] with the explanation on how this even happened being explained in a later game.
* [[spoiler: Or perhaps she's Calisto Yew/Shih-Na, whose age we don't know for certain. Unless Calisto/Shih-Na are also both the Phantom]].

[[WMG: In the 6th game you will [[spoiler:defend Maya Fey's father.]]]]
This one's reaching a bit since [[spoiler: Maya Fey's father is supposedly dead]], but as Godot said, death means nothing in the courtroom. You receive the [[spoiler: letter from Maya saying she will visit]] in case 5, and after the credits [[spoiler: Simon Blackquill is in the office and talks to someone who wants Wright Anything Agency to defend their father.]]
* Considering that [[spoiler: he's dead]], maybe it'll be found out that [[spoiler: he was murdered, and that mystery needs to be solved in conjuncture with another case]].

* Do you think Calisto Yew was likewise part of this Organisation, as well as the smuggling ring? She and the Phantom have a lot of similarities. Neither has a real identity, for starters. Both impersonated people in the legal profession, both are spies, both are able to become anyone they want, with Yew preferring to make up people and the Phantom preferring the DeadPersonImpersonation technique, both have an overtly emotion-ridden façade and both have an emotionless one, with the emotionless one having white as one of their most notable colours.
** I think that [[spoiler:Calisto Yew]] is a Phantom. Not necessarily that one. But just think for yourself. The term Phantom itself was created by Simon Blackquill. The person known as Phantom just doesn't exist. There is only a spy who follows his orders and impersonate people to fullfill his orders. I highly doubt that there is only one spy. [[spoiler:Calisto Yew]] may be another. It is entirely possible that she is the part of this Organisation or even some other Organisation which is rival to it.

[[WMG:Bobby Fulbright was familiar with [[spoiler:Phantom]] ]]

* [[spoiler: Bobby Fllbright was killed one year before events happening in Dual Destinies. You know, the detectives do not die just that simple. There should be a reason for killing him. Most likely he found something that the killer didn't want him to find]]
* [[spoiler: His body was unidentified for a whole year. Most likely it was Phantom who tampered with him to make his body practically inrecognisable. So no one would found out that he was an imposter.]]
* [[spoiler: Finally, It is highly unlikely that Phantom could mimic a guy that well just reading about him in some reports or listening about him from his relatives / coworkers. It is most likely that he knew Fulbright for some time to mimic him]]

[[spoiler:So my point is that Fulbright was in the middle of some investigation where he eventually came close to revealing either]]

* [[spoiler: 1) His identity]]
* [[spoiler: 2)Organisation which hired him]]
* [[spoiler: 3)Or just a simple fact that he was a spy]]

[[spoiler:That was the real reason why he was killed. ]]

[[spoiler:And the reason why he was able to find something about Phantom in the first place was either]]

* [[spoiler: Phantom was his colleague (prosecutor or another detective)]]

* [[spoiler:one of the guys related to the case which he has been investigating for some time.]]
** If this one is true, he may have [[spoiler: murdered Fulbright to simply get into the police force on orders from his bosses]].
*** It is also a probability. But I still don't understand why [[spoiler:Fulbright]] should have been the choice. There are a lot of [[spoiler:police officers]] in their city. So why he had to choose [[spoiler:Fulbright]] It's not like he has some privileges or respect from others.
*** It's implied he used [[spoiler: Fulbright]] because then he'd get to be [[spoiler: Simon's handler, as Simon says he's known Fulbright a year now, and that's how long the real Bobby's been dead]]. I'd say that counts as a privilege. Also it doesn't hurt that [[spoiler: Fulbright]] is essentially an idiot. Probably ''because'' [[spoiler: Fulbright]] had no exceptional respect from his fellow officers is why he pick him.

They knew each other. And in the next game our old and awesome detective will return. His [[spoiler:knowledge about Bobby Fulbright]] will be very important for the new cases and will help to reveal the [[spoiler:organisation who hired Phantom]]

[[WMG: Athena Cykes's father is [[spoiler:Kristoph Gavin]] ]]

Because it explains many things. Though indeed, that may look as a MayDecemberRomance at first sight because of large age gap between him and Metis Cykes, but he may have hid his real age. He may be older. And if he isn't, that still doesn't change a thing. He was 16 when Athena was born. Marriage is allowed when a person is 16 years old in USA so it is indeed very possible. Athena didn't mention her father, and she seems to not remembering him or at least remembers him badly. That was most likely because [[spoiler:Kristoph]] abandoned his wife or it may be the other way - Metis learned what a real jerk [[spoiler:Kristoph]] was and threw him out. Anyway, I am almost sure that he looked different at this time (just remember how [[spoiler:Klavier]] looked at this time) so Athena didn't have a chance to recognise him even if she had remembered his face. Further than that it explains two things: Athena's natural talent as a lawyer (passing bar exam at 18 is pretty impressive) and [[spoiler:Athena's black locks]]. We haven't seen them before [[spoiler:Kristoph Gavin's]] appearance, though we have seen a wide range of villains and witnesses during 3 games. This may indicate that this is the very rare case and it may be passed with the genetic transmission. Also [[spoiler:Kristoph Gavin]] started his dealings just one year before [[spoiler:Phantom]] infiltrated Space Center so it makes [[spoiler:Kristoph's]] relation to this case possible. Also, it still hasn't been cleared out what really has driven [[spoiler:Kristoph]] to do all of this and what secret did [[spoiler:his black locks]] hide? Probably he was even somehow related to the [[spoiler:organisation which hired Phantom]]. As we clearly remember it was their actions which started the [[spoiler:dark age of the law]] to begin with. It may have been their intention from the very beginning.
* The only hole I can really shoot in this is that [[spoiler: black Psyche-Locks guard secrets that even the owner of the locks doesn't have an (initial) answer to; they're a subconscious, psychological block over both mind and heart. Every other single set of locks we've seen, the person has ''purposely'' kept the information to themselves despite having an answer to the question and forced Phoenix (or Edgeworth) to practically drag the truth out of them, and they relent with enough evidence. With the black locks, it's coaxing the truth to the surface; the truth from them can't be forced to the surface lest it damage the person forever, according to Pearl. Black locks aren't triggered by a lie or avoidance of the question like the red ones are, they're triggered, well, by a [[TraumaButton trigger]] and it's unlikely that they're genetic; trauma isn't genetic. They're rare because so few people suffer such deep psychological scars that goes even beyond PTSD, and because Phoenix doesn't deal with many people who have dealt with this problem.]]

** I understand what you mean. But my theory was that not actually the black locks but Athena's ability to experience such deep feelings and probably her [[spoiler:ability to feel emotions coming from other people stronger than anyone else]] is inherited from [[spoiler:Kristoph]]. Because her mother didn't have it and even tried to [[spoiler:research]] it.
*** Well, it's never shown but it's implied that [[spoiler: Eve and Espella]] from ''VisualNovel/ProfessorLaytonVsPhoenixWrightAceAttorney'' could have had them. There are no Psyche-Locks in that game at all, so it's impossible to tell, but their trauma and reaction to the traumatic event lines up exactly with what happened to Athena and her locks. Granted, they're not an ideal example because I can't prove they had the same Locks and evidence is everything in court. So while it's merely conjecture, it is a possibility.

[[WMG: Candice Arme is [[spoiler: alive and she is Valerie Hawthorne]] ]]

As we know there was a certain [[spoiler:detective]] who looked quite similar and was involved in two crimes. Yes, it was [[spoiler:Valerie Hawthorne]]. It was her who forced [[spoiler:Ted Tonate]] to hide a truth about [[spoiler:explosions]]. She [[spoiler:[[FakingTheDead faked her death]] ]] twice and managed to create new [[spoiler:identity]]. So what has really happened in [[spoiler:Dusky Bridge]]? What motivated [[spoiler:Valerie]] to do what she did? Even if she hated her [[spoiler:father]] and loved [[spoiler:Dahlia]] (but she didn't) she didn't have any reason to involve both (!) herself and [[spoiler:her sister]] into the crime by [[spoiler:faking a kidnapping]] and later [[spoiler:shooting into innocent Terry Fawles]] being a [[spoiler:detective]] herself. The point is she planned it all along. Since the conversation with [[spoiler:Dahlia]] about the [[spoiler:fake kidnapping]] she started to create her [[EvilPlan evil plan]]. She planned all along to let [[spoiler:Dahlia]] [[spoiler:fall from Dusky Bridge]] and then to [[spoiler:hide her]] holding her in constant fear and nervousness which badly affected her sanity. After that she gave [[spoiler:false]] testimony against [[spoiler:Terry Fawles]], and later before his [[spoiler:execution]] she made the [[spoiler:trailer which transferred him]] to break which let him loose. She knew that he would [[spoiler:phone]] her. She told that she would meet him and told everything to [[spoiler:Dahlia]]. She knew about the condition of her sanity and she knew that she would come there because it was what she had been planning all along. The meeting near the [[spoiler:Dusky Bridge]] was quite different from what we thought it was. [[spoiler:Dahlia]] actually met [[spoiler:Valerie]] and talked with her. After that [[spoiler:Valerie]] mocked her (using her ill condition) and forced [[spoiler:Dahlia]] to attack herself. While planting into her arms the exact same knife which was found at the place of the crime. But it wasn't [[spoiler:Valerie]] who she "pierced" It was [[spoiler:prearranged corpse which she was carrying in her car all along.]] [[spoiler:Dahlia]] was shocked by what happened. She never intended to kill anyone. She turned around and run crying never even bothering to look at the dead corpse which wasn't actually [[spoiler:Valerie Hawthorne]]. And that was the beginning of [[spoiler:insane monster called Dahlia Hawthorne]]. Yeah, this thought of [[spoiler:Dahlia]] about killing her [[spoiler:sister]] completely made her crazy and all her next murders were caused by this single event and were directed to clear the traces leading to the murder which she never did. And her life became a nightmare. What a good [[spoiler:older sister]] she had, indeed. After that [[spoiler:Valerie]] rearranged crime scene to make things even more messed up and left it. From that time she was never heard of... Until... Years later... A certain detective named Candice Arme was investigating the crime scene. The certain director named Yuri Cosmos and Candice Arme were the first people to walk up at the scene of the murder. What a good alibi! In fact it was her who [[spoiler:killed Clay Terran]], not [[spoiler:Phantom]]. Because he never even had a need to do that to begin with because it could only cause more suspicions in his direction. All he need was to take [[spoiler:moon rock]] from him which would be easier than taking candy from a baby. While what we saw - [[spoiler:moon rock]] was still in possession of [[spoiler:Clay Terran]]. And that was because [[spoiler:Candice Arme]] who [[spoiler:killed him]] couldn't care less about the [[spoiler:moon rock]]. Actually it was her goal from very beginning to make [[spoiler:Phantom]] (and all who investigate this case) a lot of troubles. That was only confirmed by the fact that she had a sweet talk with [[spoiler:Tonate]] which resulted in court bombing. That wasn't [[spoiler:Phantom]]. In fact [[spoiler:[[DeadPersonImpersonation Bobby]] ]] was at the trial in that time. He never even had the time to plan the bombing let alone do it. After the court bombing [[spoiler:Candice]] had a lot of fun by observing the consequences of it. The reason why [[spoiler:moon rock]] stayed [[spoiler:intact]] was because of her. She made sure that he did not turn to the [[spoiler:dust]]. She planned to amuse herself watching prosecution and defence attorneys facing [[spoiler:Phantom]] in the court. The reason why [[spoiler:[[DeadPersonImpersonation Fulbright]] ]] started acting so strange in last cases was because he started to suspect that something strange was happening. There was [[spoiler:Clay Terran]] who he never killed, and court bombing which he never did, both of them though were connected to a [[spoiler:moon rock]] so he came to the conclusion that he could be suspected in the future. After that he started acting more kindly to let defence attorneys find the culprit as fast as possible. He didn't care of course if they would find the real culprit in the end or not. All he cared about was that he wouldn't be the one who falls under suspicion. But he still panicked. He thought that that trial could eventually lead to the incident that happened 7 years ago in which the [[spoiler:real culprit was him]]. And because of that he brought the [[spoiler:forged evidence]] in hope to end that trial as fast as possible. Sadly, it didn't give him much profit. In the end a certain guy was revealed as being [[spoiler:Phantom]] and accused of two murders and court bombing while in fact he has done only one. While soon after that [[spoiler:he was shot]]. So. Why did [[spoiler:Candice Arme]] know [[spoiler:Phantom identity]]? And what was her goal all along? And what if it was her who [[spoiler:shot him in the end]]? And that could only mean that [[spoiler:Candice Arme / Valerie Hawthorne]] in fact was a [[spoiler:spy]] all along working for a [[spoiler:rival organisation]]. Making her... The second [[spoiler:Phantom]]!
* I always thought [[spoiler: Arme]] more strongly resembled [[spoiler: Calisto Yew]]. [[spoiler: Maybe she's all of them?]]

** I have thought about it as well. She very well may be [[spoiler:Calisto Yew]]. It actually fits her nature as she constantly changes [[spoiler:disguises]]. So it is very likely that she has more than two [[spoiler:disguises]]. So she could be [[spoiler:Valerie Hawthorne]], [[spoiler:Calisto Yew]], [[spoiler:Shih-na]], [[spoiler:Candice Arme]] and even more people who we know nothing about. Even more it is very likely that [[spoiler:Calisto Yew]] is a second [[spoiler:Phantom]].
*** It goes further than that. Specifically, [[spoiler: yew, hawthorn, willow (柳), and vine (葛)]] are all types of wood [[spoiler: (willow and vine being found in the Japanese surnames for Hawthorne and Yew respectively, hence the kanji)]]. The surnames also take on meaning if you look at J.K. Rowling's notes about the four woods for wands. They're worth discussing because she does base it off Celtic lore about woods and other stories about what kinds of woods do what. [[spoiler: Hawthorn]] wands, she notes, are complex and contradictory. They can be used for healing and for cursing just as effectively as the other, and they can, notably, ''backfire''. [[spoiler: Yew]] is the wood used to make He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named's wand, and is said to, get this, imbue the user with the powers of life and death. Seems pretty fitting for [[spoiler: a woman who seems to die and vanish a lot. Yew]] also has some of the more frequent associations with dark magic. [[spoiler: Willow and Vine are likewise woods Rowling talks about. Ron and Hermione are notable users of willow and vine wands respectively]]. What's interesting to note about this is the fact that [[spoiler: yew and hawthorn were used by people on the ''dark'' side, You-Know-Who and Draco Malfoy]]. [[spoiler: Willow]], Rowling notes, often picks people who have a great deal of potential and are known for doing advanced, non-verbal spells quite neatly. [[spoiler: Vine]] wood users "seek a greater purpose, who have a vision beyond the ordinary and who frequently astound those who think they know them best." They're also attracted to people with "hidden depth". Both work pretty well for [[spoiler: someone who never has the same face and personality twice]]. Yet another thing all four of those woods have in common is that they're all woods Rowling notes to be "uncommon" in wands. It's a pretty neat coincidence, I think, if it is indeed that. [[spoiler: Calsito Yew and Valerie Hawthorne]] are also roughly the same height, a difference of 8cm, with [[spoiler: Yew]] being the taller. Arme doesn't have a given height that I can find, and her Japanese name makes a pun similar to her English one, so she doesn't fit in as neatly as [[spoiler: Hawthorne does with Yew]]. [[spoiler: Hawthorne and Yew]] are also, interestingly, the same age (unless, of course, [[spoiler: Yew]] lied about her age). [[spoiler: Arme]] ''may'' not fit in, due to being 11 years younger than [[spoiler: Yew and Hawthorne]], but there's a definite, viable connection between [[spoiler: Hawthorne and Yew]]. There's also the fact, between [[spoiler: Yew and Hawthorne, that (if the identities are fake) they faked being the distraught older sister to a character who was supposed to have died]]. The best connection between [[spoiler: Hawthorne and Arme]] is they're both [[spoiler: detectives]], with [[spoiler: Yew likewise being in the legal profession as a attorney, and Yew's other identity, Shih-Na, being an agent of Interpol, which seems to be a lot like being a detective]]. [[spoiler: Yew and Hawthorne]] also share relation to the two earliest cases we can play in the series, Turnabout Beginnings and Turnabout Reminiscence. Which, I guess, therein lies the real problem with this theory, unless [[spoiler: Yew/Hawthorne]] was switching between the two personalities for years, since [[spoiler: Yew and Hawthorne's timelines overlap from 2008 to 2011 (as we know Hawthorne existed from at least 2007 to 2012 and Yew was part of the Yatagarasu from 2008 to 2011)]].

[[WMG:[[spoiler:The Phantom is [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid Decoy Octopus]].]]]]
[[spoiler:Think about it they're both spies who are [[MasterOfDisguise masters of disguise]] who can [[LatexPerfection imitate people perfectly]]. Octopus has been known to get so into his roles that he sometimes needs to undergo hypnotherapy to [[ShapeShifterIdentityCrisis recall his true identity.]] Clearly Octopus must have [[FakingTheDead faked his death at the hands of FOXDIE]] and gone to work for some other nation. Without access to FOXHOUND's resources he couldn't do the hypnotherapy and eventually forgot who he was entirely.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler:British government hired the Phantom]] ]]

As seen in [[spoiler:''VisualNovel/ProfessorLaytonVsPhoenixWrightAceAttorney'' british government played a major role in almost everything and used illegal means]] to achieve a needed result. They [[spoiler:used simple people as test subjects and brainwashed them for testing unique only to Labyrinthia ink and a water.]] It is highly possible that they did the exact same thing with [[spoiler:Phantom, brainwashing him and making him forget everything about his real identity, this also explains his identity crysis. To keep effect constantly they most likely handled him a quill or a pen with the same ink which they used to brainwash people]] So every time he wrote something during his job, [[spoiler:impersonating someone, the ink effect was renewed, and prevented him from regaining his concious and real memories. After he was sent to custody in the end of DD, he can't use his pen/quill anymore, so he will eventually regain his memories in the new game, and this will be the crucial moment which leads the main cast to eventually bringing down the main villain of next main AA game.]]

[[WMG: [[spoiler: The Phantom]] is [[TheWormThatWalks The Worm That Walks.]] ]]

Mostly because I just like the idea and can totally see Simon calling him "Edgewoorth-sensei", but it actually makes a lot of sense. They both have some similar mannerisms in court (tapping the forehead and smirking, in particular, whenever they're feeling confident), have formidable reputations and are seemingly terrifying at first meeting, but [[spoiler:turn out to have good hearts]]. Not to mention that they [[spoiler:both have a close friend from their younger years who become defence attorneys trying to 'save' them]]. Maybe when Blackquill started at the DA's office, Edgeworth was either assigned or took it upon himself to mentor the younger prosecutor, seeing his potential- not unlikely, considering he practically did the same for Sebastian Debeste/Yumihiko Ichiyanagi in ''Investigations 2''. It would give an extra layer of meaning as to why Edgeworth let Blackquill prosecute, and allowed for the retrial to go ahead- not only was he trying to end the dark age of law, he probably looked into the case when Blackquill was arrested and worked out that he was innocent, or else knew about his investigation into the phantom and suspected that there was more to it, and was trying to get his protégé acquitted.

It's been 8 years since Pearl last appeared, so it's likely she's spent those past years improving her already-impressive spiritual abilities (i.e. the reason [[spoiler:her mother Morgan was trying to get her to usurp Maya of the position of the master of the Fey clan]] in the original trilogy), allowing her to, among other things, give the magatama a boost that makes it less harmful to Phoenix's soul whenever he guesses wrong.

[[WMG: [[spoiler: The Phantom]] was shot by [[spoiler: Shelley de Killer]]]].
I mean, we know he does his...''work'' in the area, and that he was never caught after his last ''contract'', so who's to say he wasn't hired to take out [[spoiler: the Phantom]]? At the very least it would explain why there's no real rush to uncover who the shooter was: Edgeworth mentions in ''Justice for All'' that there's a task force specifically dedicated to finding [[spoiler: de Killer]], and he probably just handed the case off to them. This also leads to one of two scenarios:
** He was specifically hired to [[spoiler: wound the Phantom, and not kill him]], which would lend weight to all the conspiracy theories above, or:
*** He missed. [[spoiler: de Killer's gotta be getting old now. Maybe his eyesight's going and he couldn't hit the Phantom with a killshot, what with all his flailing around on the witness stand]]. Maybe he'll be looking for [[spoiler: his successor]] sometime in the near future?

** Alternatively, he's pushing for a law that requires all female prosecutors to wear... [[{{Anime/FullmetalAlchemist}} TINY MINISKIRTS]]!

** Why is asthma the go-to for characters like [[VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheLastSpecter Arianna]], [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Wally]], and Juniper? Like I'd be offended myself, because all these characters are super fragile and frail and can't go outside or do anything, which implies that all asthmatics are that way, and I'm pretty sure that's not the case. But everyone just dismisses this as asthma. Asthma can't be romanticised- there's no mystery to it and it's pretty common. There's nothing "lovely" about occasional breathing problems. This is because it doesn't make you delicate or frail, considering that people who are obese or do sports can likewise have asthma. There's nothing tragic about it. There's nothing to really make you feel total sympathy for a character that has asthma the same way you would if they're dying of a terminal illness, which is why the illnesses are never given. [[IllGirl Juniper's]] [[IncurableCoughOfDeath coughing]] [[SoapOperaDisease is caused by her unnamed illness]], and is not asthma. Unless you want to tell me that being asthmatic makes you unable to go to school or do anything lest your fragile disposition be unable to tolerate even someone talking to you without you falling into an attack, because that's how it's implied to have been for Juniper, since she's already a pretty weak character and Athena talks about how she "didn't even recognise" Juniper because of how much "stronger" she is.

As in, he'll have permanent scarring and probably experience a lot of pain in his arms and shoulders for the rest of his life, due to damaged nerves. There's no way he didn't sustain nerve damage by blocking a huge piece of debris from crushing Juniper with only his arms. He's lucky he didn't ''break'' anything. Unless he's actually SpiderMan. Which would explain a lot.

[[WMG:[[spoiler:The Phantom is [[MetalGearSolid Decoy Octopus]].]]]]

[[WMG: Florent L'Belle is [[HarryPotter Gilderoy Lockhart]] from an alternate universe.]]

** The OP is probably suggesting this since Clay's death ''is'' rather peculiar, there already was a conspiracy going on, and how everyone at the station but Starbuck acted pretty weird about Clay's death. It doesn't really matter what it does to Starbuck, Athena, or Apollo because this isn't about the meta "why would the game makers do this". It's about a quick-thinking plan by Arme, Aura, and Cosmos to save Clay's life and protect him from the phantom without real thought to how it would affect anyone else. If word got out that Clay had been saved, the phantom would no doubt go for him again. So only Arme, Aura, a coroner, and Cosmos knew Clay had been saved. People faking their deaths isn't unusual for this series and we know some coroners aren't above faking an autopsy report, because that's how Manfred got a black mark on his record. It's likely ''Edgeworth'' didn't know unless he has a very good reason for concealing the fact Clay isn't dead, but it's still possible Cosmos, Arme, and Aura faked Clay's death with the help of a coroner.

** The problem with this theory is that it basically implies that the entirety of the Cosmic Turnabout was essentially useless, since anyone could just reveal the truth at any time and things would have ended the same way. The robots are also hardly life-life enough to stand in for Clay's corpse, and anyone would be able to tell the difference. This would also imply that evidence like the autopsy report which clearly stated that Clay was dead was directly faked, and that they were going through with pushing at what was basically false charges. I don't know about you, but that just doesn't seem like something Edgeworth would allow to me. Getting a coroner to forge autopsy results is a serious crime, and if we're basically trying tos say that all of this was basically just a conspiracy that was kept hush-hush between certain people, it'd be very, very illegal. Not to mention, it's kinda morally dubious as well, when it comes to what it ends up doing to Starbuck and Athena, and Apollo. Not to mention, making up the fact that someone's died to catch someone out is a ''major'' case of entrapment, and there's no way that'd be allowed on any legal level. Not even in the Ace Attorney world and even with the Chief Prosecutor's backing. (If I recall Myriam directly mentions the entrapment objection at one point, so it definitely exists in this world)

* ...their designs will be loosely based off of their [[http://images.wikia.com/aceattorney/images/c/ce/Onimusha_Soul_Kay_4.jpg Onimusha]] [[http://images.wikia.com/aceattorney/images/d/d4/Onimusha_Soul_Maya_4.jpg Soul]] [[http://images.wikia.com/aceattorney/images/4/4b/Onimusha_Soul_Franz_4.jpg outfits]].
* In addition, if Kay does appear again, her Little Thief will also be based off of her Onimusha Soul design, where the Little Thief will now be a sort of [[TrickedOutGloves Tricked Out Glove]].

* [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees I'd not like to believe this WMG.]]

[[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees I sincerely hope this doesn't happen]], but it seems pretty likely.

Think about it. Why would [[spoiler: such a [[ImplacableMan agent like the Phantom]], (or whoever employs him) [[KillAndReplace kill Fullbright]] but not cut his fingerprints off after wending his life? BECAUSE THE BODY WAS DESIGNED TO BE FOUND. Who would find it? A person in the court system, who could hide it from public knowledge until [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness Fulbright needed to be silenced]]. It's easy enough to fake fingerprints if you can make full-scale face masks that look real. [[PoisonOakEpilepticTrees Ema Skye could have been killed for finding out!]] [[TheChessmaster He got Phoenix convicted on trumped-up charges caused by conspiracy, he has black Psyche-locks, and has demonstrated unparalleled manipulation of the system. Your Honor, I submit that Kristoph Gavin has been using the whole court system, slowly, to get his way and provide his own warped sense of 'Justice' to the proceedings, and that he is , in fact, a fellow conspirator, and probably the attorney behind Fullbright's conviction.]]]]

[[WMG: The Phantom is [[CthulhuMythos Nyarlathotep.]]]]

A big deal is being made over this game having a darker tone. The first case is about a bomb in a courtroom which surely would entail a higher body count than usual (since it's usually just one) and that's just the beginning. I wouldn't be surprised if another aspect is that changes have been made to the courts to possibly make them even more harsh, as Phoenix himself said in AJ:AA that a dark time for them is coming. But really, how much 'darkness' can come out of that? The aim of the game is always to win the case [[spoiler: (I know, there's an exception to that but shut up!)]] so if Phoenix is still managing that (and by now he must be [[GenreSavvy savvy to the fact that if his client is innocent, he WILL win in the end)]] then how dark can it be? If times are really difficult for Phoenix, and he's in a properly bad place, I'd guess that either an established character from his trilogy or someone else he knew closely is dead.

** However, considering this is a 3DS game, it will be the ProfessorLaytonVSAceAttorney version. Either that, or Phoenix changed his ringtone.

*** Well, it's never shown but it's implied that [[spoiler: Eve and Espella]] from VisualNovel/ProfessorLaytonVsPhoenixWrightAceAttorney could have had them. There are no Psyche-Locks in that game at all, so it's impossible to tell, but their trauma and reaction to the traumatic event lines up exactly with what happened to Athena and her locks. Granted, they're not an ideal example because I can't prove they had the same Locks and evidence is everything in court. So while it's merely conjecture, it is a possibility.

As seen in [[spoiler:VisualNovel/ProfessorLaytonVsPhoenixWrightAceAttorney british government played a major role in almost everything and used illegal means]] to achieve a needed result. They [[spoiler:used simple people as test subjects and brainwashed them for testing unique only to Labyrinthia ink and a water.]] It is highly possible that they did the exact same thing with [[spoiler:Phantom, brainwashing him and making him forget everything about his real identity, this also explains his identity crysis. To keep effect constantly they most likely handled him a quill or a pen with the same ink which they used to brainwash people]] So every time he wrote something during his job, [[spoiler:impersonating someone, the ink effect was renewed, and prevented him from regaining his concious and real memories. After he was sent to custody in the end of DD, he can't use his pen/quill anymore, so he will eventually regain his memories in the new game, and this will be the crucial moment which leads the main cast to eventually bringing down the main villain of next main AA game.]]

* The only hole I can really shoot in this is that [[spoiler: black Psyche-Locks guard secrets that even the owner of the locks doesn't have an (initial) answer to; they're a subconscious, psychological block over both mind and heart. Every other single set of locks we've seen, the person has ''purposely'' kept the information to themselves despite having an answer to the question and forced Phoenix (or Edgeworth) to practically drag the truth out of them, and they relent with enough evidence. With the black locks, it's coaxing the truth to the surface; the truth from them can't be forced to the surface lest it damage the person forever, according to Pearl. Black locks aren't triggered by a lie or avoidance of the question like the red ones are, they're triggered, well, by a {{trigger}} and it's unlikely that they're genetic; trauma isn't genetic. They're rare because so few people suffer such deep psychological scars that goes even beyond PTSD, and because Phoenix doesn't deal with many people who have dealt with this problem.]]

To put it simply, a lot of people thought the original cast died before Ace Attorney 4 came out. Who's to say {{Capcom}} didn't try to invert this?

[[WMG: Simon Blackquill is the [[SaintSeiya Capricorn Gold Saint]] of the second quarter of the 21st century.]]

** Why is asthma the go-to for characters like [[ProfessorLaytonAndTheLastSpectre Arianna]], [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Wally]], and Juniper? Like I'd be offended myself, because all these characters are super fragile and frail and can't go outside or do anything, which implies that all asthmatics are that way, and I'm pretty sure that's not the case. But everyone just dismisses this as asthma. Asthma can't be romanticised- there's no mystery to it and it's pretty common. There's nothing "lovely" about occasional breathing problems. This is because it doesn't make you delicate or frail, considering that people who are obese or do sports can likewise have asthma. There's nothing tragic about it. There's nothing to really make you feel total sympathy for a character that has asthma the same way you would if they're dying of a terminal illness, which is why the illnesses are never given. [[IllGirl Juniper's]] [[IncurableCoughOfDeath coughing]] [[SoapOperaDisease is caused by her unnamed illness]], and is not asthma. Unless you want to tell me that being asthmatic makes you unable to go to school or do anything lest your fragile disposition be unable to tolerate even someone talking to you without you falling into an attack, because that's how it's implied to have been for Juniper, since she's already a pretty weak character and Athena talks about how she "didn't even recognise" Juniper because of how much "stronger" she is.

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* Confirmed!

It's implied Clay didn't die immediately after being stabbed, since it says he died of blood loss. Which makes sense, the knife can't be that long and had to go through a very thick suit (and has a solid inch or two of clearance between the handle and Clay's suit). Further, the person in charge of IDing Clay's body was someone who knew nothing about Clay, not even his face. Considering what Cosmos is like, it's possible he and Detective Arme found the barely-alive Clay, and staged the crime scene to look like he'd been murdered. Cosmos was very prepared for the phantom's attack, and knew Clay and Starbuck would be targeted. Considering how much he cares for his men, maybe he was prepared to fake their deaths if needed. So after they rescued Clay, they staged the crime scene to look as though Clay ''really was murdered''. The truth never came out because Clay was still in a bad state (possibly unconscious), and Cosmos couldn't risk Clay's safety while the phantom was still at large. Aura is also oddly calm, even smug, despite Clay's death, and she's known Clay for years and years and is obviously fond of Apollo. She probably knew, too, about Clay's situation, possibly being the one to provide "corpses" (read:robots). She does build the robots, after all. She just built one to stand in as Clay's body. It was put in his bloodied space suit. It's possible Edgeworth and the autopsist both know the truth, too. Clay is legally dead, but he himself is not.

* [[spoiler:Confirmed, I guess. It was said that he died a year before the events of the case, so...]]

* At least somewhat confirmed, Clay was definitely one of there reasons Apollo KEPT Being a lawyer after the events of the first Kristoph Gavin case (4-1).

* [[spoiler: And she will appear either before or after the revelation that Fulbright is an impostor (though most likely after).]]

* Confirmed

*** He missed. [[spoiler: de Killer's gotta be getting old now. Maybe his eyesight's going and he couldn't hit the Phantom with a killshot, what with all his flailing around on the witness stand]]. Maybe he'll be looking for [[spoiler: his successor]] sometime in the near future?