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* Kurapika explicitly starts wearing colored contacts from the Yorkshin arc onward, which explains the different colors.

*** They absolutely ''do'' go about murdering innocents by the hundreds, and they steal and kill ''on principle'' (see Feitan chiding Shizuku for trying to win that diamond legitimately). That's ''why'' they're TheDreaded in the first place. They didn't need to kill everyone at the auction, but they did it because that's what Uvo most likely would have wanted. If Machi's going rates and Shalnark's easy throwing cash at the Hunter website are ''anything'' to go by, they are filthy rich from their exploits and could just, for example, ''buy'' all of that beer, or even just steal it without killing the person tending the store (they're bulletproof; what could he or the cops he could have called have done to stop them?), but they didn't. They killed the guy and stole the beer, because killing and stealing is ''what they do''. A one-off character whose thoughts we only were briefly made privy to in order to exposit about the Ryodan mindset (so, while he ''could'', in theory, be an UnreliableExpositor, he has the LawOfConservationOfDetail on his side) described at least Chrollo as being ''addicted'' to murder, and the characterisation of the majority of the ones we've seen is consistent with them being {{Blood Knight}}s looking for a fix. They have their PetTheDog moments, but their level of MoralMyopia is explicitly lampshaded. Even Shalnark, who is one of the most superficially normal-seeming of the lot, is more upset about ''not remembering'' all the violence he inflicts in his Autopilot mode than he is about the pain that mode leaves him in for days afterward. And due to how nen works? Not remembering how he brutally murdered whatever it was has to actually be a significant downside from his point of view in order to be useful. They're ChaoticNeutral ''around each other'' and other folks from Meteor City, but if you're not in either of those groups, you're nothing to them beyond maybe being their next murder fix.
*** As for the note, however, that ''is'' less indicative of the Phantom Troupe specifically and more indicative of their hometown, Meteor City, in general, since the only other time we've seen a note like that didn't involve the Ryodan at all, and was just Meteor City dealing out its own incredibly lethal sense of justice to the outside world.

* There's also the fact that she seems to be the ''only'' person who doesn't appear to notice at all the [[HarmfulToMinors Aura of Molestation]] that [[MonsterClown Hisoka]] radiates, which tends to make everyone around him want to keep at least two arms' length away. In most group shots of the Ryodan hanging out in the York Shin arc, Shizuku is usually drawn sitting next to Hisoka, completely unbothered, and giving the book she's reading her full attention, but no one else will sit anywhere near him.

It's also easy to posit that the general view on outsiders (soon-to-be-ex-outsiders nonwithstanding) is probably something along the lines of "They didn't care if we died; why should we care if they do?". . . which possibly gives the Ryodan members from Meteor City the mother of all {{Freudian Excuse}}s.

[[WMG:Most of the Ryodan's profits go to making Meteor City more livable.]]
Those [[PetTheDog occasional acts of philanthropy]] Hisoka spoke of? All in the name of helping the Ryodan's home town.

As they've reiterated themselves many a time, "[They]'re thieves. [They] steal." The Ryodan lifestyle, by all appearances, seems to be that they steal ''everything'' they need in their day-to-day lives. Except for things like services that can't really be "stolen", they don't actually ''need'' money for anything, because they don't ''buy'' anything. So where does that money go? The creed of Meteor City dictates that they never give anything back to the outside world, and also supreme cooperation and kinship. Most of that money probably goes into getting fresh food and vital medicine for the less fortunate back home.

Disclaimer: Not intending to DracoInLeatherPants the Ryodan here, or to try to justify their (incredibly heinous) crimes. This is just my headcanon.

* Kurapika's clan could also be from the Outside. No other people in the series have eyes quite like Kurapika's people, and he showed a scary powerful Nen with his "Emperor Time", matching and exceeding a Genei Ryodan member even though he only had around six months to develop and perfect his Nen ability.

Throwing this here after seeing it suggested by the Mangahere community (the Pairo part, that is). Going by pure resemblance, the head, while blurred, looks similar to both him and Kurapika himself (who looks a lot like his mother). After all, it's stated during the Yorkshin arc that the Scarlet Eyes have more value with the head attached. The Genei Ryodan could have managed to preserve one head, which seems to be harder to do than just the eyes.
They managed this possibly by taking one of the Kurta as a prisoner (maybe one who wasn't as able to fight back as the others) to behead them later in better conditions. Pairo could have remained hidden or wandering obliviously somewhere in the forest during the massacre, only to return and get caught during or right after that by the Ryodan. So, taking in account Pairo's condition... \\

If the head behind Tserriednich is really Pairo's then it could be possible that he used his status and connections to the underworld to get the Genei Ryodan to find them and sell their scarlet eyes to the black market community. This will make him Kurapika's second archenemy along with the Genei Ryodan.


[[WMG: The incident with Pairo and Kurapika led the Genei Ryodan towards the Kurta village, indirectly causing the massacre.]]

News of the massacre spread six weeks after Kurapika's departure. It's far from unlikely that the incident with Kurapika (which probably hadn't left people's minds at the time) brought attention and made people spread the word, information that would inevitably get to the Genei Ryodan. How exactly did they find the village, though?

Right before Kurapika left, Pairo promised him that he'd take the test to go to the outside in the former's absence. Considering that Pairo had studied and learned the outsider's language together with Kurapika, it wouldn't be strange if sometime in between he had managed to pass every phase of the test to the point of being sent again to test his self-control. However, after the incident, it was easier for him to attract attention, no matter how well he behaved. People's attitude towards him would help the Genei Ryodan identify him as a Kurta, using Pairo to find the hidden village either by following him or by [[ColdBloodedTorture something much worse]].

[[WMG: Alternatively, the Genei Ryodan found the Kurta village because of Sheila, the female would-be hunter.]]

She either came back to meet Kurapika and Pairo (before finding the village's remains, anyway) or she was found and kidnapped by the Genei Ryodan, giving an [[FridgeHorror entire new meaning to her farewell note]].

[[spoiler:The note left behind by the Ryodan reads "We reject no-one, so take nothing from us." That's almost the same as the note left by Meteor City's suicide bombers over one of theirs being falsely imprisoned, and it's just as over-the-top DisproportionateRetribution. The Ryodan has acted as enforcers for the Meteor City elders before against outsiders too powerful for the regular militia to handle, and a clan of alleged devilspawn infamous for their berserker rages sound pretty well out of the normals' league.]]

Think about it. Out of all the Genei Ryodan members, Nobunaga is the only one who we don't know what his nen abilities are. It's probably something Nobunaga doesn't like to use but might be something that can stop Kurapika's chains. Also he is still upset over Ubo's death. Kurapika might make his revenge worse if he takes out Franklin, who knew about Nobunaga and Ubo's close friendship and knew the two before joining the group, implies he is also somewhat close to Nobunaga.

[[WMG: The Genei Ryodan didn't kill the Kurta clan--at least not in the way Kurapika assumes they did.]]
The only thing placing the blame on them is a note that could easily have been faked by any enemy of the Genei Ryodan. This troper is relatively new to the series so apologies if she's forgotten anything--but was there any direct evidence tying them to the crime? Did any of them mention the Kurta clan "onscreen," and were any of them specifically identified as trafficking the Eyes (aside from what could be explained by them being a powerful gang of thieves that normally distribute such expensive goods, no matter where they came from)?
We only have Kurapika's biased word for it that the Ryodan don't bother keeping track of their kills, and we haven't seen them go to such lengths of cruelty otherwise. (They steal and kill when they need to, but they don't go around murdering innocents by the hundreds.)

*** As for the note, however, that ''is'' less indicative of the Genei Ryodan specifically and more indicative of their hometown, Meteor City, in general, since the only other time we've seen a note like that didn't involve the Ryodan at all, and was just Meteor City dealing out its own incredibly lethal sense of justice to the outside world.

[[folder:[=WMGs=] about the Genei Ryodan, its members, Meteor City, etc., not relating to Kurapika or the Kurta clan]]

* An ''alternate'' alternate theory is that Ging is this world's StarSystem equivalent of Yusuke. Which would make Gon's mother (most likely) the StarSystem equivalent of Keiko.

* Problem: Gon should've inherited ''something'' from Biscuit genetically, yet the two don't have any traits - Biscuit is a blonde (brunette in the OVAs), while Gon has greenish black hair; Biscuit has either pink or blue eyes (depending on if you're going by the 2011 anime or the OVA), but Gon has brown eyes.

* It's designation "Type-100" suggest there are other "types" of numbers for his bodhisattva to achieve . . . In conjuction, this also sets-up a crossover into the Psycho Mob 100 universe. not Reigen. don't @ me. [[/folder]]

* Where he's the {{PC}}, and [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential everyone else]] is an {{NPC}}.

* Kurapika ''completely'' [[UnstoppableRage losing it]] causing him to become extremely reckless and murderous ([[UpToEleven even more than usual]]), possibly endangering himself and others, as well as the mission. Worst case scenario, Kurapika might even attempt to betray his own oath by trying to use Chain Jail on the Fourth Prince.

Specifically, the man in the business suit and short mustache seen for one panel in which Kurapika fails him for outright lying. Why do I think he'll be important? It may sound crazy, but it's because he resembles [[WesternAnimation/TheAddamsFamily1992 Gomez Addams]]. This is because there has been a series of characters in ''Hunter X Hunter'' who look like main characters from ''The Addams Family'', in particular the [[WesternAnimation/TheAddamsFamily Hanna-Barbera cartoon]], all of which have had plot significance. In order of how certain I am of them being based on ''The Addams Family'' characters:

Specifically, the man in the business suit and short mustache seen for one panel in which Kurapika fails him for outright lying. Why do I think he'll be important? It may sound crazy, but it's because he resembles [[Franchise/TheAddamsFamily Gomez Addams]]. This is because there has been a series of characters in ''Hunter X Hunter'' who look like main characters from ''The Addams Family'', in particular the [[WesternAnimation/TheAddamsFamily Hanna-Barbera cartoon]], all of which have had plot significance. In order of how certain I am of them being based on ''The Addams Family'' characters:

[[folder:{{WMG}}s that don't belong in other folders]]

[[folder:{{WMG}}s about Gon's mom]]

[[folder:{{WMG}}s about Kurapika and his revenge, the Scarlet Eyes, and the Kurta clan and the massacre thereof]]

[[folder:{{WMG}}s about the Genei Ryodan, its members, Meteor City, etc., not relating to Kurapika or the Kurta clan]]

[[folder:{{WMG}}s about the Zoldyck family and members thereof.]]

[[folder:{{WMG}}s about the Chimera Ants.]]

[[folder:{{WMG}}s about the nature of the Hunter world, characters being characters from other series, and other GrandUnifyingGuesses.]]

It was said that other types of humans do indeed live there. The first guess that comes to mind is... Pariston. It was already [[http://www.mangareader.net/hunter-x-hunter/333/7 foreshadowed]] that he's not someone from normal society, and now it's been revealed he's part of a team planning to go to the Outside.

** How is Nen more than superficially similar to Chakra? They're both RuleMagic systems of KiAttacks, but the similarities end there. The ''rules'' -- the defining characteristic of any RuleMagic system -- are ''completely'' different for Chakra and Nen. And I'm not sure about the anime, but the manga of Hunter x Hunter ''does'' show a world map on at least one occasion.

[[WMG:Hunter x Hunter is the distant future of JoJosBizarreAdventure]]

They as a group have gotten so far on resentments of those outsider their group and massive talents of their leadership and members, but they will always be at a disadvantage when fighting someone with pure intent like a true Hunter like Ging (the first rule of being a pro Hunter is that a Hunter must "Hunt" something) or Hisoka himself (anyone who read ''[[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure Steel Ball Run]]'' will know this as the concept of "dark will"). Chrollo, by all intents and purposes, should fit in to the mold of this lesser tier, so it makes sense for Hisoka's early interest in fighting him as he believed back then Chrollo is already the strongest he can be due to him having seemingly no drive to get stronger. However, after fighting and losing to Chrollo's new and improved abilities first hand, something clicked in Hisoka's mind. He would simply have to force a reason out of Chrollo to make him give the fight of a lifetime, by pressing his berserk button through killing his true companions. Being the father to his men he is, Chrollo will advance his abilities beyond Hisoka's wildest dreams, with the bonus that every time one is dead the next one will advance accordingly in power due to hatred stacking.

[[WMG:Killua's grandmother is a [[PettingZooPeople nekomimi]], a bakeneko, or some combination of the two. By extension, Zeno Zaoldyeck is a [[UsefulNotes/FurryFandom furry]].]]

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* We also have proof that [[OurDemonsAreDifferent demons]] exist in [=HxH=] canon ([[spoiler:Yupi]] is revealed to be [[spoiler:made from part of]] one late in the [[spoiler:Chimera Ant]] arc), and that [=HxH=] demons are described as being "endlessly selfless" above all other traits, which implies that they're the minions of a more powerful being.
* We [[CatchPhrase also]] [[Tropers/PigCatapult also]] have evidence of there being a "Devil" of some kind in the [=HxH=]verse, who penned the sheet music for the [[BrownNote Dark Sonata]], which cursed [[spoiler: Senritsu]] after having heard just one note/verse, and killed the man who played it.

[[WMG:Machi is half spider demon]]
Now, the her being part demon would only work if the "Chrollo is Satan/the Antichrist" part is true; it would explain why she doesn't seem to care about anything/anyone other than him, and how she managed to clamp her muscles down on Killua's hand when [[FridgeLogic there are no muscles in normal human anatomy that squeeze horizontally across the sternum]].

The spider part is where it gets interesting.
* First of all, and most obviously, she makes incredibly strong thread with her nen, which comes out of a very specific part of her body (her fingertips).
* Second of all, her preferred method of killing is to set a trap with her thread and then wait for her victims to come to her. She hates unnecessary movements, and doesn't appear to get at all bored when on surveillance, which involves a lot of watching and waiting.
* Third, her "intuition" is really more of an extremely versatile SpiderSense. Her speech bubbles even do little double-exclamation marks in the places where Spiderman would get his tingle SFX.

** How is Nen more than superficially similar to Chakra? They're both RuleMagic systems of KiAttacks, but the similarities end there. The ''rules'' -- the [[CaptainObvious defining characteristic]] of any RuleMagic system -- are ''completely'' different for Chakra and Nen. And I'm not sure about the anime, but the manga of Hunter x Hunter ''does'' show a world map on at least one occasion.

because he can easily pass the exam if he wanted, and sadism seems like an odd reason to pass up the immense amount of cash you could get as a hunter, or even just selling the card, its possible he was hired by a hunter, or assigned himself to be, a secret test, after all hunter regularly have to deal with outside sources of conflict, being able to achieve your goal is not enough, you must do it while dealing with a traitor, or some other third party interference, this also explains why he would help gon and the others dig threw the wall between the easy and long paths, even though since they barely made it WITH his help they would have failed if he had just sat down doing nothing, and he doesent actually want to pass himself, he saw gons clever thinking as something truly worthy of a hunter and thus helped for once

because he can easily pass the exam if he wanted, and sadism seems like an odd reason to pass up the immense amount of cash you could get as a hunter, or even just selling the card, its possible he was hired by a hunter, or assigned himself to be, a secret test, after all hunter regularly have to deal with outside sources of conflict, being able to achieve your goal is not enough, you must do it while dealing with a traitor, or some other conflict dragging you down

** Also, it's likely that