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17th Feb '17 10:21:41 PM DeathMetalAlchemist
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* We know Hisoka convinced Bodoro to surrender in their fight during the Hunter Exam. Maybe after the fight, he and Illumi coordinated to hypnotize and disqualify Killua, using the old man as a [[SacrificalLamb sacrificial lamb]]. Perhaps the reason Hisoka marked Bodoro for death in particular is because he didn't see much potential in him, and he obviously didn't want to bloody his hands and disqualify himself.

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* We know Hisoka convinced Bodoro to surrender in their fight during the Hunter Exam. Maybe after the fight, he and Illumi coordinated to hypnotize and disqualify Killua, using the old man as a [[SacrificalLamb [[SacrificialLamb sacrificial lamb]]. Perhaps the reason Hisoka marked Bodoro for death in particular is because he didn't see much potential in him, and he obviously didn't want to bloody his hands and disqualify himself.
17th Feb '17 4:54:48 PM DeathMetalAlchemist
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[[WMG:Hisoka arranged Bodoro's death.]]
* We know Hisoka convinced Bodoro to surrender in their fight during the Hunter Exam. Maybe after the fight, he and Illumi coordinated to hypnotize and disqualify Killua, using the old man as a [[SacrificalLamb sacrificial lamb]]. Perhaps the reason Hisoka marked Bodoro for death in particular is because he didn't see much potential in him, and he obviously didn't want to bloody his hands and disqualify himself.




[[WMG:Hisoka arranged Bodoro's death.]]
* We know Hisoka convinced Bodoro to surrender in their fight during the Hunter Exam. Maybe after the fight, he and Illumi coordinated to hypnotize and disqualify Killua, using the old man as a [[SacrificalLamb sacrificial lamb]]. Perhaps the reason Hisoka marked Bodoro for death in particular is because he didn't see much potential in him, and he obviously didn't want to bloody his hands and disqualify himself.
17th Feb '17 4:54:08 PM DeathMetalAlchemist
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[[WMG:Hisoka arranged Bodoro's death.]]
* We know Hisoka convinced Bodoro to surrender in their fight during the Hunter Exam. Maybe after the fight, he and Illumi coordinated to hypnotize and disqualify Killua, using the old man as a [[SacrificalLamb sacrificial lamb]]. Perhaps the reason Hisoka marked Bodoro for death in particular is because he didn't see much potential in him, and he obviously didn't want to bloody his hands and disqualify himself.
29th Sep '16 11:03:37 PM SunGuyThe3rd
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All is fair in a fight between nen users, so no I don't think Hisoka killed them in vengeance in response to losing to Chrollo because he finds it unfair for Chrollo to win by borrowing abilities from other people, I mean how was Chrollo suppose to fight "fair" when he is a self admitted thief whose sole ability is able to steal powers from others? Fairness is an absurd concept in to world of Hunter X Hunter, and no one knows it better than Hisoka himself. Hisoka do not kill out of hatred, he kill either out of boredom because his opponent display no redeeming features (such as promising potential for growth) to him, or that the death of the character will create a chain reaction leading stronger opportunities to manifest themselves (such as the time when he genuinely contemplates killing Alluka then Killua then Illumi to maximize the amount and quality of good fights out of the situation), also his does not kill his worthy opponents, death is only a side effect of the brutal fight for survival itself. Rather than kill in anger, I find it more inline with his character to kill in excitement and anticipation, he is ecstatic that Chrollo could turn out to be better than he could ever imagine. This is actually very important and more complex than first appear, for as a chronic manipulator Hisoka prides himself as a master in reading people, and as one can deduce from past events, rated the spider organization as a whole as beneath The Zodiacs (think, why didn't he pursue anyone else in the spider after Chrollo has been disabled and instead turned his attention to the Zodiacs in the election arc) excluding Chrollo (and maybe Machi). This view could stem from two reasons: first, as an egotist himself, he feels that the family/friendly dynamics of the Spider makes for weak individuals, some members of the spider is relatively weak if working solo, reliance on backups and complementary powers makes them inflexible when someone get the drop on them (this is proven with Machi's quick defeat along with Shalnark and Kortopi's quick demise), and thus uninteresting as opponents for duels; second, the Spider as a whole lacks something that almost all strong people in this world have in common "want", and the will to achieve them in "life", although seemingly hedonistic, their core believe was still derivative of their Meteor City origin, while they expanded their ideology from being "pariah" who only retaliate to "bandits" who take what they can from others, their will is still reactive rather than a primary urge to "want" (they want what was taken from them, rather than what they don't have), evidence being that they usually steal things on a whim and then get bore with them soon later and that everyone including the leadership place no value on their very lives and was ready to die anytime without regret. They as a group have gotten so far on resentments of those outsider their group and massive talents of their leadership and members, but they will always be at a disadvantage when fighting someone with pure intent like a true Hunter like Ging (the first rule of being a pro Hunter is that a Hunter must "Hunt" something) or Hisoka himself (anyone who read "steel ball run" will know this as the concept of "dark will"). Chrollo by all intent and purposes should fit in to the mold of this lesser tier, so it makes sense for Hisoka's early interest in fighting him as he believed back then Chrollo is already the strongest he can be due to him having seemingly no drive to get stronger, yet after fighting and losing to Chrollo's new and improved abilities first hand, something clicked in Hisoka's mind, he simply have to force a reason out of Chrollo to make him a fight of a life time, by pressing his berserk button of killing his true companions, father of his man Chrollo will advance his abilities beyond Hisoka's wildest dreams (with the bonus that every time one is dead the next one will advance accordingly in power due to hatred stacking). Next we analyze how he plans to do it: remember that there is a risk that for every member he kills he is actually limiting Chrollo's options as it may render the ability Chrollo borrowed lost forever which I can't imagine Hisoka will be please at but there is always the exciting possibility of it gets more powerful after the death of the original, so I think there is an element of gamble on Hisoka's part, but hey desperation is a great motivator in and of itself so Hisoka can't lose either way. Machi is safe for now as a witness (they need to know whom to direct their anger) and great potential for growth (due to possible hidden feeling for Chrollo), Kortopi goes first because his ability is not suited for combat by itself, he will always be the first choice because his nen is only useful in combat when combine with Chrollo's other arsenal. Next is Shalnark because his ability is useless in a meaningful duel, by his own explanation any one on one fight is over once he stick an antenna into his opponent, not to mention his natural speed without using his ability on himself is never going to be able to catch a high level nen user off guard to stick it in their body in the first place, also to consider is that Hisoka may not even be aware of this ability to self buff, all in all he is going to be on top of Hisoka's hit list. At the end there is probably a meta reason as well, people get killed because their narrative potential is exhausted, the introduction of dark continent sees a potential for an overwhelming increase of narrative scope in character number and power level, so it makes sense for some much needed house cleaning, those who doesn't make the cut is going to fall wholesale from this point on. Now for a last prediction, these are just for fun guesses by me using what we know so far: the next to go is most likely Shizuku (weakest), follow by Franklin (blend over all), Nobunaga(loss of purpose after Uvogin's death), Bonolenov (versatile ability yet still blend background), Phinks (basic ability, but connected with Feitan), Feitan (versatile, similarity to hiei), Machi (versatile, hidden drive connected to Chrollo), Chrollo (versatile, great characterization yet lacking connection to dark continent make him temporarily important at best for now, yet there is possibility of linking to the grand narrative through Hisoka's action, maybe simply for revenge or searching for something outside to revive his dead companions), Kalluto will probably survive due to being to young to reach maximum potential, not to mention connection to the Zoldycks makes the story line too entangled for narrative purpose.

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All is fair in a fight between nen Nen users, so no no, I don't think Hisoka killed them in vengeance in response to losing to Chrollo because he finds it unfair for Chrollo to win by borrowing abilities from other people, people. I mean mean, how was Chrollo suppose supposed to fight "fair" when he is a self admitted thief whose sole ability is able to steal powers from others? Fairness is an absurd concept in to the world of Hunter X Hunter, and no one knows it better than Hisoka himself. Hisoka do does not kill out of hatred, he kill kills either out of boredom because his opponent display displays no redeeming features (such as promising potential for growth) to him, or that the death of the character will create a chain reaction leading stronger opportunities to manifest themselves (such as the time when he genuinely contemplates killing Alluka then Killua then Illumi to maximize the amount and quality of good fights out of the situation), also his situation). Also, he does not kill his worthy opponents, opponents: death is only a side effect of the brutal fight for survival itself. itself.

Rather than kill in anger, I find it more inline in line with his character to kill in excitement and anticipation, he anticipation. He is ecstatic that Chrollo could turn out to be better than he could ever imagine. This is actually very important and more complex than it first appear, appears, for as a chronic manipulator Hisoka prides himself as a master in reading people, and as one can deduce from past events, rated the spider organization as a whole as beneath The Zodiacs (think, (think: why didn't he pursue anyone else in the spider after Chrollo has been disabled and instead turned his attention to the Zodiacs in the election arc) arc?) excluding Chrollo (and maybe Machi). Machi).

This view could stem from two reasons: first, as an egotist himself, he feels that the family/friendly dynamics of the Spider makes for weak individuals, some individuals. Some members of the spider is Spider are relatively weak if working solo, reliance on backups backup and complementary powers makes them inflexible when someone get gets the drop on them (this is proven with Machi's quick defeat along with Shalnark and Kortopi's quick demise), and thus uninteresting as opponents for duels; second, the Spider as a whole lacks something that almost all strong people in this world have in common "want", and the will to achieve them in "life", although seemingly hedonistic, their core believe belief was still derivative of their Meteor City origin, while they expanded their ideology from being "pariah" "pariahs" who only retaliate to "bandits" who take what they can from others, their others. Their will is still reactive rather than a primary urge to "want" (they want what was taken from them, rather than what they don't have), evidence being that they usually steal things on a whim and then get bore bored with them soon later later, and that everyone everyone, including the leadership leadership, place no value on their very lives and was were ready to die anytime without regret. regret.

They as a group have gotten so far on resentments of those outsider their group and massive talents of their leadership and members, but they will always be at a disadvantage when fighting someone with pure intent like a true Hunter like Ging (the first rule of being a pro Hunter is that a Hunter must "Hunt" something) or Hisoka himself (anyone who read "steel ball run" ''[[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure Steel Ball Run]]'' will know this as the concept of "dark will"). Chrollo Chrollo, by all intent intents and purposes purposes, should fit in to the mold of this lesser tier, so it makes sense for Hisoka's early interest in fighting him as he believed back then Chrollo is already the strongest he can be due to him having seemingly no drive to get stronger, yet stronger. However, after fighting and losing to Chrollo's new and improved abilities first hand, something clicked in Hisoka's mind, he mind. He would simply have to force a reason out of Chrollo to make him a give the fight of a life time, lifetime, by pressing his berserk button of through killing his true companions, companions. Being the father of to his man men he is, Chrollo will advance his abilities beyond Hisoka's wildest dreams (with dreams, with the bonus that every time one is dead the next one will advance accordingly in power due to hatred stacking). Next stacking.

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we analyze how he plans to do it: remember that there is a risk that for every member he kills kills, he is actually limiting Chrollo's options as it may render the ability Chrollo borrowed lost forever forever, which I can't imagine Hisoka will be please at but pleased by. However, there is always the exciting possibility of it gets getting more powerful after the death of the original, so I think there is an element of gamble gambling on Hisoka's part, but hey hey, desperation is a great motivator in and of itself so Hisoka can't lose either way. way.

Machi is safe for now as a witness (they need to know whom to direct their anger) anger at) and great potential for growth (due to possible hidden feeling feelings for Chrollo), Chrollo). Kortopi goes first because his ability is not suited for combat by itself, he itself. He will always be the first choice because his nen Nen is only useful in combat when combine combined with Chrollo's other arsenal. powers. Next is Shalnark because his ability is useless in a meaningful duel, by duel. By his own explanation any one on one fight is over once he stick sticks an antenna into his opponent, not to mention his natural speed without using his ability on himself is never going to be able to catch a high level nen user off guard to stick it in their body in the first place, also to consider place. Also worth considering is that Hisoka may not even be aware of this ability to self buff, so all in all all, he is going to be on top of Hisoka's hit list. list.

At the end there is probably a meta reason as well, people well. People get killed because their narrative potential is exhausted, the exhausted. The introduction of dark continent the Dark Continent sees a potential for an overwhelming increase of narrative scope in character number and power level, so it makes sense for some much needed house cleaning, those cleaning. Those who doesn't don't make the cut is are going to fall wholesale from this point on. on.

Now for a last prediction, these are just for fun guesses by me using what we know so far: the next to go is most likely Shizuku (weakest), follow by Franklin (blend over all), Nobunaga(loss (bland overall), Nobunaga (loss of purpose after Uvogin's death), Bonolenov (versatile ability yet still blend bland background), Phinks (basic ability, but connected with Feitan), Feitan (versatile, similarity to hiei), [[Manga/YuYuHakusho Hiei]]), Machi (versatile, hidden drive connected to Chrollo), Chrollo (versatile, great characterization characterization, yet lacking a connection to dark continent make the Dark Continent makes him temporarily important at best for now, yet now. Of course, there is the possibility of him linking to the grand narrative through Hisoka's action, actions: maybe simply for revenge or searching for something outside to revive his dead companions), companions). Kalluto will probably survive due to being to too young to reach maximum potential, not to mention his connection to the Zoldycks makes the story line storyline too entangled for narrative purpose.
12th Jul '16 1:37:55 AM PaulA
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Specifically, the man in the business suit and short mustache seen for one panel in which Kurapika fails him for outright lying. Why do I think he'll be important? It may sound crazy, but it's because he resembles [[Main/TheAddamsFamily Gomez Addams]]. This is because there has been a series of characters in ''Hunter X Hunter'' who look like main characters from ''The Addams Family'', in particular the [[WesternAnimation/TheAddamsFamily Hanna-Barbera cartoon]], all of which have had plot significance. In order of how certain I am of them being based on ''The Addams Family'' characters:

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Specifically, the man in the business suit and short mustache seen for one panel in which Kurapika fails him for outright lying. Why do I think he'll be important? It may sound crazy, but it's because he resembles [[Main/TheAddamsFamily [[Franchise/TheAddamsFamily Gomez Addams]]. This is because there has been a series of characters in ''Hunter X Hunter'' who look like main characters from ''The Addams Family'', in particular the [[WesternAnimation/TheAddamsFamily Hanna-Barbera cartoon]], all of which have had plot significance. In order of how certain I am of them being based on ''The Addams Family'' characters:
12th Jun '16 12:12:57 AM zonezeroh
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All is fair in a fight between nen users, so no I don't think Hisoka killed them in vengeance in response to losing to Chrollo because he finds it unfair for Chrollo to win by borrowing abilities from other people, I mean how was Chrollo suppose to fight "fair" when he is a self admitted thief whose sole ability is able to steal powers from others? Fairness is an absurd concept in to world of Hunter X Hunter, and no one knows it better than Hisoka himself. Hisoka do not kill out of hatred, he kill either out of boredom because his opponent display no redeeming features (such as promising potential for growth) to him, or that the death of the character will create a chain reaction leading stronger opportunities to manifest themselves (such as the time when he genuinely contemplates killing Alluka then Killua then Illumi to maximize the amount and quality of good fights out of the situation), also his does not kill his worthy opponents, death is only a side effect of brutal fights for survival itself. Rather than kill in anger, I find it more inline with his character to kill in excitement and anticipation, he is ecstatic that Chrollo turned out to be better than he could ever imagine. This is actually very important and more complex than first appear, for as a chronic manipulator Hisoka prides himself as a master in reading people, and as one can deduce from past events, rated the spider organization as a whole as beneath The Zodiacs (think, why didn't he pursue anyone else in the spider after Chrollo has been disabled and instead turned his attention to the Zodiacs in the election arc) excluding Chrollo (and maybe Machi). This view could stem from two reasons: first, as an egotist himself, he feels that the family/friendly dynamics of the Spider makes for weak individuals, some members of the spider is relatively weak if working solo, reliance on backups and complementary powers makes them inflexible when someone get the drop on them (this is proven with Machi's quick defeat along with Shalnark and Kortopi's quick demise), and thus uninteresting as opponents for duels; second, the Spider as a whole lacks something that almost all strong people in this world have in common "want", and the will to achieve them in "life", although seemingly hedonistic, their core believe was still derivative of their Meteor City origin, while they expanded their ideology from being "pariah" who only retaliate to "bandits" who take what they can from others, their will is still reactive rather than a primary urge to "want" (they want what was taken from them, rather than what they don't have), evidence being that they usually steal things on a whim and then get bore with them soon later and that everyone including the leadership place no value on their very lives and was ready to die anytime without regret. They as a group have gotten so far on resentments of those outsider their group and massive talents of their leadership and members, but they will always be at a disadvantage when fighting someone with pure intent like a true Hunter like Ging (the first rule of Hunter is that a Hunter must "Hunt" something) or Hisoka himself (anyone who read "steel ball run" will know this as the concept of "dark will". Chrollo by all intent and purposes should fit in to the mold of this lesser tier, so it makes sense for Hisoka's early interest in fighting him as he believed back then Chrollo is already the strongest he can be due to him having seemingly no drive to get stronger, yet after fighting and losing to Chrollo's new and improved abilities first hand, something clicked in Hisoka's mind, he simply have to force a reason out of Chrollo to make him a fight of a life time, by pressing his berserk button of killing his true companions, father of his man Chrollo will advance beyond Hisoka's wildest dreams (with the bonus that every time one is dead the next one will advance accordingly in power due to hatred). Next we analyze how he plans to do it: remember that there is a risk that for every member he kills he is actually limiting Chrollo's options as it may render the ability Chrollo borrowed lost forever which I can't imagine Hisoka will be please with but there is always the exiting possibility of it gets more powerful after the death of the original, so I think there is an element of gamble on Hisoka's part, but hey desperation is a great motivator in and of itself so Hisoka can't lose either way. Machi is safe for now as a witness (they need to know whom to direct their anger) and great potential for growth (due to possible hidden feeling for Chrollo), Kortopi goes first because his ability is not suited for combat by itself, he will always be the first choice because his nen is only useful in combat when combine with Chrollo's other arsenal. Next is Shalnark because his ability is useless in a meaningful duel, by his own explanation any one on one fight is over once he stick an antenna into an opponent, not to mention his natural speed without using his ability on himself is never going to be able to catch a high level nen user off guard to stick it in their body, also to consider is that Hisoka may not even be aware of this ability to self buff, all in all he is going to be on top of Hisoka's hit list. At the end there is probably a meta reason as well, people get killed because their narrative potential is exhausted, the introduction of dark continent sees a potential for an overwhelming in narrative scope in character number and power level, so it makes sense for some much needed house cleaning, those who doesn't make the cut is going to fall whole sale from this point on. As for a last prediction, these are just for fun guesses by me using what we know so far: the next to go is most likely Shizuku (weakest), follow by Franklin (blend over all), Nobunaga(loss of purpose after Uvogin's death), Bonolenov (versatile ability yet still blend background), Phinks (basic ability, but connected with Feitan), Feitan (versatile, similarity to hiei), Machi (versatile, hidden drive connected to Chrollo), Chrollo (versatile, great characterization yet lacking connection to dark continent make him temporarily important at best for now, yet there is possibility of linking to the grand narrative through Hisoka's action, maybe simplely for revenge or searching for something outside to revive dead companions), Kalluto will probably survive due to being to young to reach maximum potential, not to mention connection to the Zoldycks makes the story line too entangled for narrative purpose.

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All is fair in a fight between nen users, so no I don't think Hisoka killed them in vengeance in response to losing to Chrollo because he finds it unfair for Chrollo to win by borrowing abilities from other people, I mean how was Chrollo suppose to fight "fair" when he is a self admitted thief whose sole ability is able to steal powers from others? Fairness is an absurd concept in to world of Hunter X Hunter, and no one knows it better than Hisoka himself. Hisoka do not kill out of hatred, he kill either out of boredom because his opponent display no redeeming features (such as promising potential for growth) to him, or that the death of the character will create a chain reaction leading stronger opportunities to manifest themselves (such as the time when he genuinely contemplates killing Alluka then Killua then Illumi to maximize the amount and quality of good fights out of the situation), also his does not kill his worthy opponents, death is only a side effect of the brutal fights fight for survival itself. Rather than kill in anger, I find it more inline with his character to kill in excitement and anticipation, he is ecstatic that Chrollo turned could turn out to be better than he could ever imagine. This is actually very important and more complex than first appear, for as a chronic manipulator Hisoka prides himself as a master in reading people, and as one can deduce from past events, rated the spider organization as a whole as beneath The Zodiacs (think, why didn't he pursue anyone else in the spider after Chrollo has been disabled and instead turned his attention to the Zodiacs in the election arc) excluding Chrollo (and maybe Machi). This view could stem from two reasons: first, as an egotist himself, he feels that the family/friendly dynamics of the Spider makes for weak individuals, some members of the spider is relatively weak if working solo, reliance on backups and complementary powers makes them inflexible when someone get the drop on them (this is proven with Machi's quick defeat along with Shalnark and Kortopi's quick demise), and thus uninteresting as opponents for duels; second, the Spider as a whole lacks something that almost all strong people in this world have in common "want", and the will to achieve them in "life", although seemingly hedonistic, their core believe was still derivative of their Meteor City origin, while they expanded their ideology from being "pariah" who only retaliate to "bandits" who take what they can from others, their will is still reactive rather than a primary urge to "want" (they want what was taken from them, rather than what they don't have), evidence being that they usually steal things on a whim and then get bore with them soon later and that everyone including the leadership place no value on their very lives and was ready to die anytime without regret. They as a group have gotten so far on resentments of those outsider their group and massive talents of their leadership and members, but they will always be at a disadvantage when fighting someone with pure intent like a true Hunter like Ging (the first rule of being a pro Hunter is that a Hunter must "Hunt" something) or Hisoka himself (anyone who read "steel ball run" will know this as the concept of "dark will". will"). Chrollo by all intent and purposes should fit in to the mold of this lesser tier, so it makes sense for Hisoka's early interest in fighting him as he believed back then Chrollo is already the strongest he can be due to him having seemingly no drive to get stronger, yet after fighting and losing to Chrollo's new and improved abilities first hand, something clicked in Hisoka's mind, he simply have to force a reason out of Chrollo to make him a fight of a life time, by pressing his berserk button of killing his true companions, father of his man Chrollo will advance his abilities beyond Hisoka's wildest dreams (with the bonus that every time one is dead the next one will advance accordingly in power due to hatred). hatred stacking). Next we analyze how he plans to do it: remember that there is a risk that for every member he kills he is actually limiting Chrollo's options as it may render the ability Chrollo borrowed lost forever which I can't imagine Hisoka will be please with at but there is always the exiting exciting possibility of it gets more powerful after the death of the original, so I think there is an element of gamble on Hisoka's part, but hey desperation is a great motivator in and of itself so Hisoka can't lose either way. Machi is safe for now as a witness (they need to know whom to direct their anger) and great potential for growth (due to possible hidden feeling for Chrollo), Kortopi goes first because his ability is not suited for combat by itself, he will always be the first choice because his nen is only useful in combat when combine with Chrollo's other arsenal. Next is Shalnark because his ability is useless in a meaningful duel, by his own explanation any one on one fight is over once he stick an antenna into an his opponent, not to mention his natural speed without using his ability on himself is never going to be able to catch a high level nen user off guard to stick it in their body, body in the first place, also to consider is that Hisoka may not even be aware of this ability to self buff, all in all he is going to be on top of Hisoka's hit list. At the end there is probably a meta reason as well, people get killed because their narrative potential is exhausted, the introduction of dark continent sees a potential for an overwhelming in increase of narrative scope in character number and power level, so it makes sense for some much needed house cleaning, those who doesn't make the cut is going to fall whole sale wholesale from this point on. As Now for a last prediction, these are just for fun guesses by me using what we know so far: the next to go is most likely Shizuku (weakest), follow by Franklin (blend over all), Nobunaga(loss of purpose after Uvogin's death), Bonolenov (versatile ability yet still blend background), Phinks (basic ability, but connected with Feitan), Feitan (versatile, similarity to hiei), Machi (versatile, hidden drive connected to Chrollo), Chrollo (versatile, great characterization yet lacking connection to dark continent make him temporarily important at best for now, yet there is possibility of linking to the grand narrative through Hisoka's action, maybe simplely simply for revenge or searching for something outside to revive his dead companions), Kalluto will probably survive due to being to young to reach maximum potential, not to mention connection to the Zoldycks makes the story line too entangled for narrative purpose.
11th Jun '16 11:58:15 PM zonezeroh
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All is fair in a fight between nen users, so no I don't think Hisoka killed them in vengeance in response to losing to Chrollo because he finds it unfair for Chrollo to win by borrowing abilities from other people, I mean how was Chrollo suppose to fight "fair" when he is a self admitted thief whose sole ability is able to steal powers from others? Fairness is an absurd concept in to world of Hunter X Hunter, and no one knows it better than Hisoka himself. Hisoka do not kill out of hatred, he kill either out of boredom because his opponent display no redeeming features (such as promising potential for growth) to him, or that the death of the character will create a chain reaction leading stronger opportunities to manifest themselves (such as the time when he genuinely contemplates killing Alluka then Killua then Illumi to maximize the amount and quality of good fights out of the situation), also his does not kill his worthy opponents, death is only a side effect of brutal fights for survival itself. Rather than kill in anger, I find it more inline with his character to kill in excitement and anticipation, he is ecstatic that Chrollo turned out to be better than he could ever imagine. This is actually very important and more complex than first appear, for as a chronic manipulator Hisoka prides himself as a master in reading people, and as one can deduce from past events, rated the spider organization as a whole as beneath The Zodiacs (think, why didn't he pursue anyone else in the spider after Chrollo has been disabled and instead turned his attention to the Zodiacs in the election arc) excluding Chrollo (and maybe Machi). This view could stem from two reasons: first, as an egotist himself, he feels that the family/friendly dynamics of the Spider makes for weak individuals, some members of the spider is relatively weak if working solo, reliance on backups and complementary powers makes them inflexible when someone get the drop on them (this is proven with Machi's quick defeat along with Shalnark and Kortopi's quick demise), and thus uninteresting as opponents for duals; second, the Spider as a whole lacks something that almost all strong people in this world have in common "want", and the will to achieve them in "life", although seemingly hedonistic, their core believe was still derivative of their Meteor City origin, while they expanded their ideology from being "pariah" who only retaliate to "bandits" who take what they can from others, their will is still reactive rather than a primary urge to "want" (they want what was taken from them, rather than what they don't have), evidence being that they usually steal things on a whim and then get bore with them soon later and that everyone including the leadership place no value on their very lives and was ready to die anytime without regret. They as a group have gotten so far on resentments of those outsider their group and massive talents of their leadership and members, but they will always be at a disadvantage when fighting someone with pure intent like a true Hunter like Ging (the first rule of Hunter is that a Hunter must "Hunt" something) or Hisoka himself (anyone who read "steel ball run" will know this as the concept of "dark will". Chrollo by all intent and purposes should fit in to the mold of this lesser tier, so it makes sense for Hisoka's early interest in fighting him as he believed back then Chrollo is already the strongest he can be due to him having seemingly no drive to get stronger, yet after fighting and losing to Chrollo's new and improved abilities first hand, something clicked in Hisoka's mind, he simply have to force a reason out of Chrollo to make him a fight of a life time, by pressing his berserk button of killing his true companions, father of his man Chrollo will advance beyond Hisoka's wildest dreams (with the bonus that every time one is dead the next one will advance accordingly in power due to hatred). Next we analyze how he plans to do it: remember that there is a risk that for every member he kills he is actually limiting Chrollo's options as it may render the ability Chrollo borrowed lost forever which I can't imagine Hisoka will be please with but there is always the exiting possibility of it gets more powerful after the death of the original, so I think there is an element of gamble on Hisoka's part, but hey desperation is a great motivator in and of itself so Hisoka can't lose either way. Machi is safe for now as a witness (they need to know whom to direct their anger) and great potential for growth (due to possible hidden feeling for Chrollo), Kortopi goes first because his ability is not suited for combat by itself, he will always be the first choice because his nen is only useful in combat when combine with Chrollo's other arsenal. Next is Shalnark because his ability is useless in a meaningful dual, by his own explanation any one on one fight is over once he stick an antenna into an opponent, not to mention his natural speed without using his ability on himself is never going to be able to catch a high level nen user off guard to stick it in their body, also to consider is that Hisoka may not even be aware of this ability to self buff, all in all he is going to be on top of Hisoka's hit list. At the end there is probably a meta reason as well, people get killed because their narrative potential is exhausted, the introduction of dark continent sees a potential for an overwhelming in narrative scope in character number and power level, so it makes sense for some much needed house cleaning, those who doesn't make the cut is going to fall whole sale from this point on. As for a last prediction, these are just for fun guesses by me using what we know so far: the next to go is most likely Shizuku (weakest), follow by Franklin (blend over all), Nobunaga(loss of purpose after Uvogin's death), Bonolenov (versatile ability yet still blend background), Phinks (basic ability, but connected with Feitan), Feitan (versatile, similarity to hiei), Machi (versatile, hidden drive connected to Chrollo), Chrollo (versatile, great characterization yet lacking connection to dark continent make him temporarily important at best for now, yet there is possibility of linking to the grand narrative through Hisoka's action, maybe simplely for revenge or searching for something outside to revive dead companions), Kalluto will probably survive due to being to young to reach maximum potential, not to mention connection to the Zoldycks makes the story line too entangled for narrative purpose.

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All is fair in a fight between nen users, so no I don't think Hisoka killed them in vengeance in response to losing to Chrollo because he finds it unfair for Chrollo to win by borrowing abilities from other people, I mean how was Chrollo suppose to fight "fair" when he is a self admitted thief whose sole ability is able to steal powers from others? Fairness is an absurd concept in to world of Hunter X Hunter, and no one knows it better than Hisoka himself. Hisoka do not kill out of hatred, he kill either out of boredom because his opponent display no redeeming features (such as promising potential for growth) to him, or that the death of the character will create a chain reaction leading stronger opportunities to manifest themselves (such as the time when he genuinely contemplates killing Alluka then Killua then Illumi to maximize the amount and quality of good fights out of the situation), also his does not kill his worthy opponents, death is only a side effect of brutal fights for survival itself. Rather than kill in anger, I find it more inline with his character to kill in excitement and anticipation, he is ecstatic that Chrollo turned out to be better than he could ever imagine. This is actually very important and more complex than first appear, for as a chronic manipulator Hisoka prides himself as a master in reading people, and as one can deduce from past events, rated the spider organization as a whole as beneath The Zodiacs (think, why didn't he pursue anyone else in the spider after Chrollo has been disabled and instead turned his attention to the Zodiacs in the election arc) excluding Chrollo (and maybe Machi). This view could stem from two reasons: first, as an egotist himself, he feels that the family/friendly dynamics of the Spider makes for weak individuals, some members of the spider is relatively weak if working solo, reliance on backups and complementary powers makes them inflexible when someone get the drop on them (this is proven with Machi's quick defeat along with Shalnark and Kortopi's quick demise), and thus uninteresting as opponents for duals; duels; second, the Spider as a whole lacks something that almost all strong people in this world have in common "want", and the will to achieve them in "life", although seemingly hedonistic, their core believe was still derivative of their Meteor City origin, while they expanded their ideology from being "pariah" who only retaliate to "bandits" who take what they can from others, their will is still reactive rather than a primary urge to "want" (they want what was taken from them, rather than what they don't have), evidence being that they usually steal things on a whim and then get bore with them soon later and that everyone including the leadership place no value on their very lives and was ready to die anytime without regret. They as a group have gotten so far on resentments of those outsider their group and massive talents of their leadership and members, but they will always be at a disadvantage when fighting someone with pure intent like a true Hunter like Ging (the first rule of Hunter is that a Hunter must "Hunt" something) or Hisoka himself (anyone who read "steel ball run" will know this as the concept of "dark will". Chrollo by all intent and purposes should fit in to the mold of this lesser tier, so it makes sense for Hisoka's early interest in fighting him as he believed back then Chrollo is already the strongest he can be due to him having seemingly no drive to get stronger, yet after fighting and losing to Chrollo's new and improved abilities first hand, something clicked in Hisoka's mind, he simply have to force a reason out of Chrollo to make him a fight of a life time, by pressing his berserk button of killing his true companions, father of his man Chrollo will advance beyond Hisoka's wildest dreams (with the bonus that every time one is dead the next one will advance accordingly in power due to hatred). Next we analyze how he plans to do it: remember that there is a risk that for every member he kills he is actually limiting Chrollo's options as it may render the ability Chrollo borrowed lost forever which I can't imagine Hisoka will be please with but there is always the exiting possibility of it gets more powerful after the death of the original, so I think there is an element of gamble on Hisoka's part, but hey desperation is a great motivator in and of itself so Hisoka can't lose either way. Machi is safe for now as a witness (they need to know whom to direct their anger) and great potential for growth (due to possible hidden feeling for Chrollo), Kortopi goes first because his ability is not suited for combat by itself, he will always be the first choice because his nen is only useful in combat when combine with Chrollo's other arsenal. Next is Shalnark because his ability is useless in a meaningful dual, duel, by his own explanation any one on one fight is over once he stick an antenna into an opponent, not to mention his natural speed without using his ability on himself is never going to be able to catch a high level nen user off guard to stick it in their body, also to consider is that Hisoka may not even be aware of this ability to self buff, all in all he is going to be on top of Hisoka's hit list. At the end there is probably a meta reason as well, people get killed because their narrative potential is exhausted, the introduction of dark continent sees a potential for an overwhelming in narrative scope in character number and power level, so it makes sense for some much needed house cleaning, those who doesn't make the cut is going to fall whole sale from this point on. As for a last prediction, these are just for fun guesses by me using what we know so far: the next to go is most likely Shizuku (weakest), follow by Franklin (blend over all), Nobunaga(loss of purpose after Uvogin's death), Bonolenov (versatile ability yet still blend background), Phinks (basic ability, but connected with Feitan), Feitan (versatile, similarity to hiei), Machi (versatile, hidden drive connected to Chrollo), Chrollo (versatile, great characterization yet lacking connection to dark continent make him temporarily important at best for now, yet there is possibility of linking to the grand narrative through Hisoka's action, maybe simplely for revenge or searching for something outside to revive dead companions), Kalluto will probably survive due to being to young to reach maximum potential, not to mention connection to the Zoldycks makes the story line too entangled for narrative purpose.
11th Jun '16 11:55:34 PM zonezeroh
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[[WMG: Hisoka is killing off the Spiders one by one for a reason and in a specific order.]]
All is fair in a fight between nen users, so no I don't think Hisoka killed them in vengeance in response to losing to Chrollo because he finds it unfair for Chrollo to win by borrowing abilities from other people, I mean how was Chrollo suppose to fight "fair" when he is a self admitted thief whose sole ability is able to steal powers from others? Fairness is an absurd concept in to world of Hunter X Hunter, and no one knows it better than Hisoka himself. Rather than kill in anger, I find it more inline with his character to kill in excitement and anticipation, he is ecstatic that Chrollo turned out to be better than he could even imagine. This is actually very important and more complex than first appear, for as a chronic manipulator Hisoka prides himself as a master in reading people, and as one can deduce from past events, rated the spider organization as a whole as beneath The Zodiacs (think, why didn't he pursue anyone else in the spider after Chrollo has been disabled and instead turned his attention to the Zodiacs in the election arc) excluding Chrollo and Machi. This view could stem from two reasons: first, as an egotist himself, he feels that the family/friendly dynamics of the Spider makes for weak individuals, some members of the spider is relatively weak if working solo, reliance on backups and complementary powers makes them inflexible when someone get the drop on them (this is proven with Machi's quick defeat along with Shalnark and Kortopi's quick demise), and thus uninteresting as opponents for duals; second, the Spider as a whole lacks something that almost all strong people in this world have in common "want", and the will to achieve them in "life", although seemingly hedonistic, their core believe was still derivative of their Meteor City origin, while they expanded their ideology from being "pariah" who only retaliate to "bandits" who take what they can from others, their will is still reactive rather than a primary urge to "want" (they want what was taken from them, rather than what they don't have), evidence being that they usually steal things on a whim and then get bore with them soon later and that everyone including the leadership place no value on their very lives and was ready to die anytime without regret. They as a group have gotten so far on resentments of those outsider their group and massive talents of their leadership and members, but they will always be at a disadvantage when fighting someone with pure intent like a true Hunter like Ging (the first rule of Hunter is that a Hunter must "Hunt" something) or Hisoka himself (anyone who read "steel ball run" will know this as the concept of "dark will". Chrollo by all intent and purposes should fit in to the mold of this lesser tier, so it makes sense for Hisoka's early interest in fighting him as he believed back then Chrollo is already the strongest he can be due to him having seemingly no drive to get stronger, yet after fighting and losing to Chrollo's new and improved abilities first hand, something clicked in Hisoka's mind, he simply have to force a reason out of Chrollo to make him a fight of a life time, by pressing his berserk button of killing his true companions, father of his man Chrollo will advance beyond Hisoka's wildest dreams (with the bonus that every time one is dead the next one will advance accordingly in power due to hatred). Hisoka do not kill out of hatred, he kill either out of boredom because his opponent display no redeeming features (such as promising potential for growth) to him, or that the death of the character will create a chain reaction leading stronger opportunities to manifest themselves (such as the time when he genuinely contemplates killing Alluka then Killua then Illumi to maximize the amount and quality of good fights out of the situation), also he's goal is not to kill his worthy opponents, death is only a side effect of brutal fights for survival itself. Now we know why, next we analyze how: remember that there is a risk that for every member he kills he is actually limiting Chrollo's options as it may render the ability Chrollo borrowed lost forever which I can't imagine Hisoka will be please with but there is always the exiting possibility of it gets more powerful after the death of the original, so I think there is an element of gamble on Hisoka's part, but hey desperation is a great motivator in and of itself so Hisoka can't lose either way. Machi is safe for now as a witness and great potential for growth due to possible hidden love for Chrollo, Kortopi goes first because his ability is not suited for combat by itself, he will always be the first choice because his nen is only useful in combat when combine with Chrollo's other arsenal. Next is Shalnark because his ability is useless in a meaningful dual, by his own explanation any one on one fight is over once he stick an antenna into an opponent, not to mention his natural speed without using his ability on himself is never going to be able to catch a high level nen user off guard to stick it in their body, also to consider is that Hisoka may not even be aware of this ability to self buff, all in all he is going to be on top of Hisoka's hit list. At the end there is probably a meta reason as well, people get killed because their narrative potential is exhausted, the introduction of dark continent sees a potential for an overwhelming in narrative scope in character number and power level, so it makes sense for some much needed house cleaning, those who doesn't make the cut is going to fall whole sale from this point on. As for a last prediction, these are just for fun guesses by me using what we know so far: the next to go is most likely Shizuku (weakest), follow by Franklin (blend over all), Nobunaga(loss of purpose after Uvogin's death), Bonolenov (versatile ability yet still blend background), Phinks (basic ability, but connected with Feitan), Feitan (versatile, similarity to hiei), Machi (versatile, hidden drive connected to Chrollo), Chrollo (versatile, great characterization yet lacking connection to dark continent make him temporarily important at best for now, yet there is possibility of linking to the grand narrative through Hisoka's action, maybe simplely for revenge or searching for something outside to revive dead companions), Kalluto will probably survive due to being to young to reach maximum potential, not to mention connection to the Zoldycks makes the story line too entangled for narrative purpose.

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[[WMG: Hisoka is killing off the Spiders one by one for a reason other then revenge and in a specific order.]]
All is fair in a fight between nen users, so no I don't think Hisoka killed them in vengeance in response to losing to Chrollo because he finds it unfair for Chrollo to win by borrowing abilities from other people, I mean how was Chrollo suppose to fight "fair" when he is a self admitted thief whose sole ability is able to steal powers from others? Fairness is an absurd concept in to world of Hunter X Hunter, and no one knows it better than Hisoka himself. Hisoka do not kill out of hatred, he kill either out of boredom because his opponent display no redeeming features (such as promising potential for growth) to him, or that the death of the character will create a chain reaction leading stronger opportunities to manifest themselves (such as the time when he genuinely contemplates killing Alluka then Killua then Illumi to maximize the amount and quality of good fights out of the situation), also his does not kill his worthy opponents, death is only a side effect of brutal fights for survival itself. Rather than kill in anger, I find it more inline with his character to kill in excitement and anticipation, he is ecstatic that Chrollo turned out to be better than he could even ever imagine. This is actually very important and more complex than first appear, for as a chronic manipulator Hisoka prides himself as a master in reading people, and as one can deduce from past events, rated the spider organization as a whole as beneath The Zodiacs (think, why didn't he pursue anyone else in the spider after Chrollo has been disabled and instead turned his attention to the Zodiacs in the election arc) excluding Chrollo and Machi.(and maybe Machi). This view could stem from two reasons: first, as an egotist himself, he feels that the family/friendly dynamics of the Spider makes for weak individuals, some members of the spider is relatively weak if working solo, reliance on backups and complementary powers makes them inflexible when someone get the drop on them (this is proven with Machi's quick defeat along with Shalnark and Kortopi's quick demise), and thus uninteresting as opponents for duals; second, the Spider as a whole lacks something that almost all strong people in this world have in common "want", and the will to achieve them in "life", although seemingly hedonistic, their core believe was still derivative of their Meteor City origin, while they expanded their ideology from being "pariah" who only retaliate to "bandits" who take what they can from others, their will is still reactive rather than a primary urge to "want" (they want what was taken from them, rather than what they don't have), evidence being that they usually steal things on a whim and then get bore with them soon later and that everyone including the leadership place no value on their very lives and was ready to die anytime without regret. They as a group have gotten so far on resentments of those outsider their group and massive talents of their leadership and members, but they will always be at a disadvantage when fighting someone with pure intent like a true Hunter like Ging (the first rule of Hunter is that a Hunter must "Hunt" something) or Hisoka himself (anyone who read "steel ball run" will know this as the concept of "dark will". Chrollo by all intent and purposes should fit in to the mold of this lesser tier, so it makes sense for Hisoka's early interest in fighting him as he believed back then Chrollo is already the strongest he can be due to him having seemingly no drive to get stronger, yet after fighting and losing to Chrollo's new and improved abilities first hand, something clicked in Hisoka's mind, he simply have to force a reason out of Chrollo to make him a fight of a life time, by pressing his berserk button of killing his true companions, father of his man Chrollo will advance beyond Hisoka's wildest dreams (with the bonus that every time one is dead the next one will advance accordingly in power due to hatred). Hisoka do not kill out of hatred, he kill either out of boredom because his opponent display no redeeming features (such as promising potential for growth) to him, or that the death of the character will create a chain reaction leading stronger opportunities to manifest themselves (such as the time when he genuinely contemplates killing Alluka then Killua then Illumi to maximize the amount and quality of good fights out of the situation), also he's goal is not to kill his worthy opponents, death is only a side effect of brutal fights for survival itself. Now we know why, next Next we analyze how: how he plans to do it: remember that there is a risk that for every member he kills he is actually limiting Chrollo's options as it may render the ability Chrollo borrowed lost forever which I can't imagine Hisoka will be please with but there is always the exiting possibility of it gets more powerful after the death of the original, so I think there is an element of gamble on Hisoka's part, but hey desperation is a great motivator in and of itself so Hisoka can't lose either way. Machi is safe for now as a witness (they need to know whom to direct their anger) and great potential for growth due (due to possible hidden love feeling for Chrollo, Chrollo), Kortopi goes first because his ability is not suited for combat by itself, he will always be the first choice because his nen is only useful in combat when combine with Chrollo's other arsenal. Next is Shalnark because his ability is useless in a meaningful dual, by his own explanation any one on one fight is over once he stick an antenna into an opponent, not to mention his natural speed without using his ability on himself is never going to be able to catch a high level nen user off guard to stick it in their body, also to consider is that Hisoka may not even be aware of this ability to self buff, all in all he is going to be on top of Hisoka's hit list. At the end there is probably a meta reason as well, people get killed because their narrative potential is exhausted, the introduction of dark continent sees a potential for an overwhelming in narrative scope in character number and power level, so it makes sense for some much needed house cleaning, those who doesn't make the cut is going to fall whole sale from this point on. As for a last prediction, these are just for fun guesses by me using what we know so far: the next to go is most likely Shizuku (weakest), follow by Franklin (blend over all), Nobunaga(loss of purpose after Uvogin's death), Bonolenov (versatile ability yet still blend background), Phinks (basic ability, but connected with Feitan), Feitan (versatile, similarity to hiei), Machi (versatile, hidden drive connected to Chrollo), Chrollo (versatile, great characterization yet lacking connection to dark continent make him temporarily important at best for now, yet there is possibility of linking to the grand narrative through Hisoka's action, maybe simplely for revenge or searching for something outside to revive dead companions), Kalluto will probably survive due to being to young to reach maximum potential, not to mention connection to the Zoldycks makes the story line too entangled for narrative purpose.
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All is fair in a fight between nen users, so no I don't think Hisoka killed them in vengeance in response to losing to Chrollo because he finds it unfair for Chrollo to win by borrowing abilities from other people, I mean how was Chrollo suppose to fight "fair" when he is a self admitted thief whose sole ability is able to steal powers from others? Fairness is an absurd concept in to world of Hunter X Hunter, and no one knows it better than Hisoka himself. Rather than kill in anger, I find it more inline with his character to kill in excitement and anticipation, he is ecstatic that Chrollo turned out to be better than he could even imagine. This is actually very important and more complex than first appear, for as a chronic manipulator Hisoka prides himself as a master in reading people, and as one can deduce from past events, rated the spider organization as a whole as beneath The Zodiacs (think, why didn't he pursue anyone else in the spider after Chrollo has been disabled and instead turned his attention to the Zodiacs in the election arc) excluding Chrollo and Machi. This view could stem from two reasons: first, as an egotist himself, he feels that the family/friendly dynamics of the Spider makes for weak individuals, some members of the spider is relatively weak if working solo, reliance on backups and complementary powers makes them inflexible when someone get the drop on them (this is proven with Machi's quick defeat along with Shalnark and Kortopi's quick demise), and thus uninteresting as opponents for duals; second, the Spider as a whole lacks something that almost all strong people in this world have in common "want", and the will to achieve them in "life", although seemingly hedonistic, their core believe was still derivative of their Meteor City origin, while they expanded their ideology from being "pariah" who only retaliate to "bandits" who take what they can from others, their will is still reactive rather than a primary urge to "want" (they want what was taken from them, rather than what they don't have), evidence being that they usually steal things on a whim and then get bore with them soon later and that everyone including the leadership place no value on their very lives and was ready to die anytime without regret. They as a group have gotten so far on resentments of those outsider their group and massive talents of their leadership and members, but they will always be at a disadvantage when fighting someone with pure intent like a true Hunter like Ging (the first rule of Hunter is that a Hunter must "Hunt" something) or Hisoka himself (anyone who read "steel ball run" will know this as the concept of "dark will". Chrollo by all intent and purposes should fit in to the mold of this lesser tier, so it makes sense for Hisoka's early interest in fighting him as he believed back then Chrollo is already the strongest he can be due to him having seemingly no drive to get stronger, yet after fighting and losing to Chrollo's new and improved abilities first hand, something clicked in Hisoka's mind, he simply have to force a reason out of Chrollo to make him a fight of a life time, by pressing his berserk button of killing his true companions, father of his man Chrollo will advance beyond Hisoka's wildest dreams (with the bonus that every time one is dead the next one will advance accordingly in power due to hatred). Hisoka do not kill out of hatred, he kill either out of boredom because his opponent display no redeeming features (such as promising potential for growth) to him, or that the death of the character will create a chain reaction leading stronger opportunities to manifest themselves (such as the time when he genuinely contemplates killing Alluka then Killua then Illumi to maximize the amount and quality of good fights out of the situation), also he's goal is not to kill his worthy opponents, death is only a side effect of brutal fights for survival itself. Now we know why, next we analyze how: remember that there is a risk that for every member he kills he is actually limiting Chrollo's options as it may render the ability Chrollo borrowed lost forever which I can't imagine Hisoka will be please with but there is always the exiting possibility of it gets more powerful after the death of the original, so I think there is an element of gamble on Hisoka's part, but hey desperation is a great motivator in and of itself so Hisoka can't lose either way. Machi is safe for now as a witness and great potential for growth due to possible hidden love for Chrollo, Kortopi goes first because his ability is not suited for combat by itself, he will always be the first choice because his nen is only useful in combat when combine with Chrollo's other arsenal. Next is Shalnark because his ability is useless in a meaningful dual, by his own explanation any one on one fight is over once he stick an antenna into an opponent, not to mention his natural speed without using his ability on himself is never going to be able to catch a high level nen user off guard to stick it in their body, also to consider is that Hisoka may not even be aware of this ability to self buff, all in all he is going to be on top of Hisoka's hit list. At the end there is probably a meta reason as well, people get killed because their narrative potential is exhausted, the introduction of dark continent sees a potential for an overwhelming in narrative scope in character number and power level, so it makes sense for some much needed house cleaning, those who doesn't make the cut is going to fall whole sale from this point on. As for a last prediction, these are just for fun guesses by me using what we know so far: the next to go is most likely Shizuku (weakest), follow by Franklin (blend over all), Nobunaga(loss of purpose after Uvogin's death), Bonolenov (versatile ability yet still blend background), Phinks (basic ability, but connected with Feitan), Feitan (versatile, similarity to hiei), Machi (versatile, hidden drive connected to Chrollo), Chrollo (versatile, great characterization yet lacking connection to dark continent make him temporarily important at best for now, yet there is possibility of linking to the grand narrative through Hisoka's action, maybe simplely for revenge or searching for something outside to revive dead companions), Kalluto will probably survive due to being to young to reach maximum potential, not to mention connection to the Zoldycks makes the story line too entangled for narrative purpose.
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