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23rd Jan '16 9:27:44 PM amathieu13
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We already know that Togashi uses Gon as a {{Deconstruction}} of typical "live by their own code", super energetic, "win them over by talking" shounen main characters like Naruto. The manga shows in great depth how actually being that kind of character is far stranger than most shounen like to make it seem and ultimately suggests that someone like that is a person to be afraid of because of their high unpredictable. However, the Chimera Ant arc made it brutally clear that a character like this is destined to be their own demise. Gon, like many shounen leads, has a lot of potential and gets stronger by fighting people that are stronger than him. Typically this leads to a [[NextTierPowerUp power]] [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands upgrade]] of some sort in battle which allows the main character to defeat their adversary. However, in the Hunter X Hunter universe, that does not work. Gon wins his major "fight" with Hanzo only because Hanzo forfeits. When it actually comes to fighting people who are significantly stronger than him, in an actual fight Gon would most likely lose due to his lack of experience and training. The one time Gon wins, Ging later explains, is because he in a rage unknowingly makes a Nen conditional that allows him to fully tap into his potential [[DeadlyUpgrade at the cost of almost his life and all of his Nen capabilities.]] Gon's rage and blind desire to get stronger regardless of the consequences is just that: blind and uninformed.
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We already know that Togashi uses Gon as a {{Deconstruction}} of typical "live by their own code", super energetic, "win them over by talking" shounen main characters like Naruto. The manga shows in great depth how actually being that kind of character is far stranger than most shounen like to make it seem and ultimately suggests that someone like that is a person to be afraid of because of their high unpredictable. However, the Chimera Ant arc made it brutally clear that a character like this is destined to be their own demise. Gon, like many shounen leads, has a lot of potential and gets stronger by fighting people that are stronger than him. Typically this leads to a [[NextTierPowerUp power]] [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands upgrade]] of some sort in battle which allows the main character to defeat their adversary. However, in the Hunter X Hunter universe, that does not work. Gon wins his major "fight" with Hanzo only because Hanzo forfeits. When it actually comes to fighting people who are significantly stronger than him, in an actual fight Gon would most likely lose due to his lack of experience and training. The one time Gon wins, wins in a true fight, Ging later explains, is explains that it was because he Gon, in a rage rage, unknowingly makes made a Nen conditional that allows allowed him to fully tap into his potential [[DeadlyUpgrade at the cost of almost his life and all of his Nen capabilities.]] Therefore Gon's heroic rage and blind desire to get stronger regardless of the consequences is just that: blind and uninformed. ultimately a one way ticket to getting good and dead at an accelerated rate.
23rd Jan '16 9:24:45 PM amathieu13
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We already know that Togashi uses Gon as a {{Deconstruction}} of typical "live by their own code", super energetic, "win them over by talking" shounen main characters like Naruto. The manga shows in great depth how actually being that kind of character is far stranger than most shounen like to make it seem and ultimately suggests that someone like that is a person to be afraid of because of their high unpredictable. However, the Chimera Ant arc made it brutally clear that a character like this is destined to be their own demise. Gon, like many shounen leads, has a lot of potential and gets stronger by fighting people that are stronger than him. Typically this leads to a [[NextTierPowerUp power]] [[PowersAsThePlotDemands upgrade]] of some sort in battle which allows the main character to defeat their adversary. However, in the Hunter X Hunter universe, that does not work. Gon wins his major "fight" with Hanzo only because Hanzo forfeits. When it actually comes to fighting people who are significantly stronger than him, in an actual fight Gon would most likely lose due to his lack of experience and training. The one time Gon wins, Ging later explains, is because he in a rage unknowingly makes a Nen conditional that allows him to fully tap into his potential [[DeadlyUpgrade at the cost of almost his life and all of his Nen capabilities.]] Gon's rage and blind desire to get stronger regardless of the consequences is just that: blind and uninformed.
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We already know that Togashi uses Gon as a {{Deconstruction}} of typical "live by their own code", super energetic, "win them over by talking" shounen main characters like Naruto. The manga shows in great depth how actually being that kind of character is far stranger than most shounen like to make it seem and ultimately suggests that someone like that is a person to be afraid of because of their high unpredictable. However, the Chimera Ant arc made it brutally clear that a character like this is destined to be their own demise. Gon, like many shounen leads, has a lot of potential and gets stronger by fighting people that are stronger than him. Typically this leads to a [[NextTierPowerUp power]] [[PowersAsThePlotDemands [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands upgrade]] of some sort in battle which allows the main character to defeat their adversary. However, in the Hunter X Hunter universe, that does not work. Gon wins his major "fight" with Hanzo only because Hanzo forfeits. When it actually comes to fighting people who are significantly stronger than him, in an actual fight Gon would most likely lose due to his lack of experience and training. The one time Gon wins, Ging later explains, is because he in a rage unknowingly makes a Nen conditional that allows him to fully tap into his potential [[DeadlyUpgrade at the cost of almost his life and all of his Nen capabilities.]] Gon's rage and blind desire to get stronger regardless of the consequences is just that: blind and uninformed.
23rd Jan '16 9:23:51 PM amathieu13
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We already know that Gon himself is more or less a {{Deconstruction}} of typical "live by their own code", super energetic, "win them over by talking" shounen main characters like Naruto. The manga shows in great depth how actually being that kind of character is far stranger than most shounen like to make it seem and ultimately suggests that someone like that is a person to be afraid of because of their high unpredictable. However, the Chimera Ant arc made it brutally clear that a character like this is destined to be their own demise. Gon, like many shounen leads, has a lot of potential and gets stronger by fighting people that are stronger than him. Typically this leads to a PowerUpgrade of some sort in battle which allows the main character to defeat their adversary. However, in the Hunter X Hunter universe, that does not work. Gon wins his major "fight" with Hanzo only because Hanzo forfeits. When it actually comes to fighting people who are significantly stronger than him, in an actual fight Gon would most likely lose due to his lack of experience and training. The one time Gon wins is because he in a rage unknowingly makes a Nen conditional that allows him to fully tap into his potential at the cost of almost his life and all of his Nen capabilities. Gon's rage and blind desire to get stronger regardless of the consequences is just that: blind and uninformed. Kurapika, on the other hand, is far more shrewd than Gon and while he does have a sense of justice, he does not have the same BlueandOrangeMorality that Gon does, which allows him to better assess situations and make less decisions that are purely based off of emotion. And it is Kurapika who has actually taken down two of the Phantom Troupe members: one by outright killing him and the other by making him incapable of using Nen. It has been noted that Kurapika's story is almost a waste since it could stand alone as its own manga and be equally as compelling. But that's the FridgeBrilliance of it. Togashi intentionally [[PutOnABus put Killua on a bus]] and depowered Gon because Gon's story is finished as he was never truly the main protagonist. Kurapika will now take up the mantle as being the true protagonist and the story will focus more on him.
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We already know that Togashi uses Gon himself is more or less as a {{Deconstruction}} of typical "live by their own code", super energetic, "win them over by talking" shounen main characters like Naruto. The manga shows in great depth how actually being that kind of character is far stranger than most shounen like to make it seem and ultimately suggests that someone like that is a person to be afraid of because of their high unpredictable. However, the Chimera Ant arc made it brutally clear that a character like this is destined to be their own demise. Gon, like many shounen leads, has a lot of potential and gets stronger by fighting people that are stronger than him. Typically this leads to a PowerUpgrade [[NextTierPowerUp power]] [[PowersAsThePlotDemands upgrade]] of some sort in battle which allows the main character to defeat their adversary. However, in the Hunter X Hunter universe, that does not work. Gon wins his major "fight" with Hanzo only because Hanzo forfeits. When it actually comes to fighting people who are significantly stronger than him, in an actual fight Gon would most likely lose due to his lack of experience and training. The one time Gon wins wins, Ging later explains, is because he in a rage unknowingly makes a Nen conditional that allows him to fully tap into his potential [[DeadlyUpgrade at the cost of almost his life and all of his Nen capabilities. capabilities.]] Gon's rage and blind desire to get stronger regardless of the consequences is just that: blind and uninformed. Kurapika, on the other hand, is far more shrewd than Gon and while he does have a sense of justice, he does not have the same BlueandOrangeMorality that Gon does, which allows him to better assess situations and make less decisions that are purely based off of emotion. And it is Kurapika who has actually taken down two of the Phantom Troupe members: one by outright killing him and the other by making him incapable of using Nen. It has been noted that Kurapika's story is almost a waste since it could stand alone as its own manga and be equally as compelling. But that's the FridgeBrilliance of it. Togashi intentionally [[PutOnABus put Killua on a bus]] and depowered Gon because Gon's story is finished as he was never truly the main protagonist. Kurapika will now take up the mantle as being the true protagonist and the story will focus more on him. Togashi deconstructs the archetypal shounen hero by playing it straight and showing what kind of person you'd need to be to act in the typical "heroic" way. He therefore is trying to make the argument that the best hero for the shounen genre is not the archetypal hero as we have come to identify. The best hero is the more antihero like Kurapika.
23rd Jan '16 9:05:29 PM amathieu13
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Kurapika, on the other hand, is far more shrewd than Gon and while he does have a sense of justice, he does not have the same BlueandOrangeMorality that Gon does, which allows him to better assess situations and make less decisions that are purely based off of emotion. And it is Kurapika who has actually taken down two of the Phantom Troupe members: one by outright killing him and the other by making him incapable of using Nen. It has been noted that Kurapika's story is almost a waste since it could stand alone as its own manga and be equally as compelling. But that's the FridgeBrilliance of it. Togashi intentionally {(PutOnABus put Killua on a bus}} and depowered Gon because Gon's story is finished as he was never truly the main protagonist. Kurapika will now take up the mantle as being the true protagonist and the story will focus more on him.
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Kurapika, on the other hand, is far more shrewd than Gon and while he does have a sense of justice, he does not have the same BlueandOrangeMorality that Gon does, which allows him to better assess situations and make less decisions that are purely based off of emotion. And it is Kurapika who has actually taken down two of the Phantom Troupe members: one by outright killing him and the other by making him incapable of using Nen. It has been noted that Kurapika's story is almost a waste since it could stand alone as its own manga and be equally as compelling. But that's the FridgeBrilliance of it. Togashi intentionally {(PutOnABus [[PutOnABus put Killua on a bus}} bus]] and depowered Gon because Gon's story is finished as he was never truly the main protagonist. Kurapika will now take up the mantle as being the true protagonist and the story will focus more on him.
23rd Jan '16 9:04:47 PM amathieu13
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We already know that Gon himself is more or less a {Deconstruction} of typical "live by their own code", super energetic, "win them over by talking" shounen main characters like Naruto. The manga shows in great depth how actually being that kind of character is far stranger than most shounen like to make it seem and ultimately suggests that someone like that is a person to be afraid of because of their high unpredictable. However, the Chimera Ant arc made it brutally clear that a character like this is destined to be their own demise. Gon, like many shounen leads, has a lot of potential and gets stronger by fighting people that are stronger than him. Typically this leads to a PowerUpgrade of some sort in battle which allows the main character to defeat their adversary. However, in the Hunter X Hunter universe, that does not work. Gon wins his major "fight" with Hanzo only because Hanzo forfeits. When it actually comes to fighting people who are significantly stronger than him, in an actual fight Gon would most likely lose due to his lack of experience and training. The one time Gon wins is because he in a rage unknowingly makes a Nen conditional that allows him to fully tap into his potential at the cost of almost his life and all of his Nen capabilities. Gon's rage and blind desire to get stronger regardless of the consequences is just that: blind and uninformed. Kurapika, on the other hand, is far more shrewd than Gon and while he does have a sense of justice, he does not have the same BlueandOrangeMorality that Gon does, which allows him to better assess situations and make less decisions that are purely based off of emotion. And it is Kurapika who has actually taken down two of the Phantom Troupe members: one by outright killing him and the other by making him incapable of using Nen. It has been noted that Kurapika's story is almost a waste since it could stand alone as its own manga and be equally as compelling. But that's the FridgeBrilliance of it. Togashi intentionally {(PutOnABusNow put Killua on a bus}} and depowered Gon because Gon's story is finished as he was never truly the main protagonist. Kurapika will now take up the mantle as being the true protagonist and the story will focus more on him.
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We already know that Gon himself is more or less a {Deconstruction} {{Deconstruction}} of typical "live by their own code", super energetic, "win them over by talking" shounen main characters like Naruto. The manga shows in great depth how actually being that kind of character is far stranger than most shounen like to make it seem and ultimately suggests that someone like that is a person to be afraid of because of their high unpredictable. However, the Chimera Ant arc made it brutally clear that a character like this is destined to be their own demise. Gon, like many shounen leads, has a lot of potential and gets stronger by fighting people that are stronger than him. Typically this leads to a PowerUpgrade of some sort in battle which allows the main character to defeat their adversary. However, in the Hunter X Hunter universe, that does not work. Gon wins his major "fight" with Hanzo only because Hanzo forfeits. When it actually comes to fighting people who are significantly stronger than him, in an actual fight Gon would most likely lose due to his lack of experience and training. The one time Gon wins is because he in a rage unknowingly makes a Nen conditional that allows him to fully tap into his potential at the cost of almost his life and all of his Nen capabilities. Gon's rage and blind desire to get stronger regardless of the consequences is just that: blind and uninformed. Kurapika, on the other hand, is far more shrewd than Gon and while he does have a sense of justice, he does not have the same BlueandOrangeMorality that Gon does, which allows him to better assess situations and make less decisions that are purely based off of emotion. And it is Kurapika who has actually taken down two of the Phantom Troupe members: one by outright killing him and the other by making him incapable of using Nen. It has been noted that Kurapika's story is almost a waste since it could stand alone as its own manga and be equally as compelling. But that's the FridgeBrilliance of it. Togashi intentionally {(PutOnABusNow {(PutOnABus put Killua on a bus}} and depowered Gon because Gon's story is finished as he was never truly the main protagonist. Kurapika will now take up the mantle as being the true protagonist and the story will focus more on him.
23rd Jan '16 9:03:13 PM amathieu13
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[[WMG: Gon is a DecoyProtagonist and the entire manga is a giant GenreDeconstruction of shounen. The true protagonist is Kurapika.]] We already know that Gon himself is more or less a {Deconstruction} of typical "live by their own code", super energetic, "win them over by talking" shounen main characters like Naruto. The manga shows in great depth how actually being that kind of character is far stranger than most shounen like to make it seem and ultimately suggests that someone like that is a person to be afraid of because of their high unpredictable. However, the Chimera Ant arc made it brutally clear that a character like this is destined to be their own demise. Gon, like many shounen leads, has a lot of potential and gets stronger by fighting people that are stronger than him. Typically this leads to a PowerUpgrade of some sort in battle which allows the main character to defeat their adversary. However, in the Hunter X Hunter universe, that does not work. Gon wins his major "fight" with Hanzo only because Hanzo forfeits. When it actually comes to fighting people who are significantly stronger than him, in an actual fight Gon would most likely lose due to his lack of experience and training. The one time Gon wins is because he in a rage unknowingly makes a Nen conditional that allows him to fully tap into his potential at the cost of almost his life and all of his Nen capabilities. Gon's rage and blind desire to get stronger regardless of the consequences is just that: blind and uninformed. Kurapika, on the other hand, is far more shrewd than Gon and while he does have a sense of justice, he does not have the same BlueandOrangeMorality that Gon does, which allows him to better assess situations and make less decisions that are purely based off of emotion. And it is Kurapika who has actually taken down two of the Phantom Troupe members: one by outright killing him and the other by making him incapable of using Nen. It has been noted that Kurapika's story is almost a waste since it could stand alone as its own manga and be equally as compelling. But that's the FridgeBrilliance of it. Togashi intentionally {(PutOnABusNow put Killua on a bus}} and depowered Gon because Gon's story is finished as he was never truly the main protagonist. Kurapika will now take up the mantle as being the true protagonist and the story will focus more on him.
10th Nov '15 6:07:01 PM olivemeister
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[[WMG: Shalnark is related to the Kuruta clan in some way.]] One of Shalnark's parents was exiled from the clan for breaking the "no outside contact" rules, possibly because they fell in love with an outsider. Ending up in Meteor City, this exiled Kuruta would go on to have Shalnark and start a new life - but they never forgot the grudge they held against their clan, and passed on the negative emotions to their child. When Shalnark later joined up with the already-formed Troupe (we know from flashbacks that he is not a founding member, though he was presumably born in Meteor City), it gave them a solid link to the Kuruta clan's existence, and Shalnark didn't care enough about the estranged family who rejected his parents to protest the slaughter. Additionally, while Shalnark's current clothing is slightly evocative of Kuruta dress, the [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/hunterxhunter/images/0/00/Young_Phantom_Troupe.png/revision/latest?cb=20150607104439 clothing he's seen wearing]] in material from the (admittedly arguably-canon) movie Phantom Rouge is strikingly similar to the point of being downright suspicious.
10th Nov '15 5:46:54 PM olivemeister
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** It may also be that Killua is the only one who inherited Silva's ''nen type'' - all of the other Zoldyck children are manipulators, except for Alluka whose type is unknown. Of course, how they would know Killua was a transmuter as a young child is more of a mystery, but certainly not impossible for a family like the Zoldycks.
10th Nov '15 5:41:45 PM olivemeister
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* Female-assigned is very possible - it certainly wouldn't be the first character Togashi created that was transgender.
10th Nov '15 5:32:27 PM olivemeister
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* Mito starts the series at 25 years old, meaning she would have had to have gotten pregnant at around age 12 to be Gon's biological mother. It's not impossible, but very improbable. Also, we know from the Greed Island arc (the presence of a name in Gon's book before he'd encountered another player) that, at the very least, Gon was somewhere besides Whale Island at some point in his early childhood.
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